that seems like a cool talent to have, not one i possess
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
isn’t the right’s standard of eloquence ben shapiro? like...
― maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
Is it their XX chromosomes that give it away
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
i dunno, intimating that a child fascist youtuber might be being directed by adults is not necessarily sexist to me? i would presume the same if we were talking about a boy also?
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
the fact that she sounds like she is saying a lot of these words for the first time in her life is sort of a giveaway
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
the way there's an edit after every flowery, overstuffed line
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
i get it and maybe, perhaps probably, it's true. but i can assume if there are precocious kids who can craft compelling arguments about global warming and tolerance and what not then the opposite side must have those types as well, and these MAGA ppl sometimes start early and the virulence doesn't necessarily first emerge when they hit driver's license age.
― omar little, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link
has anybody here ever heard kids reading from the bible at church
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
I mean, just listen to her. This is a child reading from a script. Who even bought her the prison clothes? https://youtu.be/iqw_Zo49IPY
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
Some people even think this girl is scripted too...
https://youtu.be/ulf82uRT3bA
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
Could be her own script tbf.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
lol she’s obviously reading from a script but there’s no indication someone wrote it for her and she speaks w/ clarity, fluency and intent that suggests that she understands it entirely
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
says right there on the video
Written by SophCo-written by Vaporub Boy
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link
― frogbs
this was not my impression but i suppose impressions are subjective
Sometimes ppl know words from reading that they’ve never heard spoken aloud
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
Especially at that age.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
even at my age (40s)
― the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link
At any age tbh.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link
Can confirm (30s). Just likelier at such a young age, is all.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link
It seems like she understands what she is saying and I bet she shares those views and—maybe more significantly—that weird meme sensibility
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link
14 is maybe old enough to form and articulate hot takes such as these, but she looks 10
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link
Yeah but she is 14
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
just sayin
― husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
The 'imprisoned' girl strikes me as genuine, in that she seems like a bright kid who felt totally estranged from her peers in school, probably was teased, bullied and ostracized, with too little support from teachers or counselors. Chances are good her parents encouraged her to respond combatively and righteously, because this was their own method of coping with opposition, thus escalating the whole dynamic until it reached the place seen in her video. btw, she looks 14 to me.
Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
― A is for (Aimless)
but one never really knows, does one? all this talk of "owning" and "destroying" by people who don't seem to have a firm grasp on the difference between fantasy and reality at the best of times...
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link
The bile, black and white thinking, and the way that e.g. the "women are cool" video weirdly drifts between grand evolutionary psych pronouncements and bitter references to high school relationships and social dynamics do seem pretty credibly adolescent to me. Will admit that I would probably be less scandalized (and also less sympathetic) if she were a boy bc boys are obv monsters.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
that article was pretty terrible. I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us
― rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
alex jones seems pretty credibly adolescent to me!
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us
She didn't pick up this shtick in a vacuum and I guarantee you she'll inspire more heinous content (and worse) in the near future if she keeps or expands her audience base over time.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link
There's been lots of good reporting on YouTube's complete fucked-upness (like the Bloomberg piece that's linked in the article), but this one doesn't tell us anything new. I probably wouldn't care if it weren't being presented as news, but since it is, this is borderline malpractice imo:
"Indeed, one of Soph’s messages seems to be that in a world where the adults who have grown rich through technology took the implications of that technology seriously, she wouldn’t exist. She’s a problem, she seems to be saying, of YouTube’s own making."
I get that the existence of this person is disturbing, but that doesn't make this a good article nor does it excuse sending what I assume is a shitload of traffic her way.
― rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link
I mean I def agree that the direct linking and "no, seriously, watch it" demand was not helpful
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link
The framing was the way a liberal media org can use compelling content that is politically off brand without owning it themselves
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
She debates adults on the left with eloquence and she laughs nonchalantly at systems of power. When I asked Soph why she relies so heavily on irony, her reply was typically curt: “the current paradigm does not deserve to be taken seriously.”
Curt. Also, facile and without content. This is just the usual adolescent scorn and hubris, but attached to a larger vocabulary and a more accomplished mimicry of maturity. All those youtube views are going to reinforce her like crazy and tend to freeze her into this persona far into adulthood. I would not want to be her, no matter how many followers she gathers or how much money she harvests off this notoriety.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
Hate to see someone frozen in adulthood with merely a high vocabulary and facile opinions
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
Kind of like seeing the small town high school quarterback who led his team to the state 4A championship, never leaves town, and rests on his laurels.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
she’s pretty much lil tay with extra fascism
― maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link
Where did this Imam Tawhidi grifter pop up from?
"the left is more violent than even Isis" lol
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
Off-topic, I made this, not sure what do do with it (Dankula has blocked me already) so I'm putting it here.
https://i.imgur.com/a4PXAMU.jpg
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
Given that he was telling his interviewer he was worried for her safety because "the left is more violent than even Isis" this seems unlikely!
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Ah, then he must be referring to the imaginary "left" that lives in his mind alongside the dancing elves.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
careful now, some of them have heavy milkshakery
― anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
A group of Mennonites showing up to protest the Klan is the most Ohio shit in the entire world and I'm loving it https://t.co/fb336pnNhH— Neverwinter DSA Co-Chair (@thepoeticgopher) May 25, 2019
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
Breitbart, Ben Shapiro "bridged the gap" between Fox News and Stormfront for this pair of white supremacist terrorists.That's the purpose the alt-right was created to serve, y'all. It's literally the reason they exist. pic.twitter.com/NjXY0ZSRKP— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) May 27, 2019
Twitter thread charting the radicalization of a white nationalist via Facebook likes
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 07:08 (four years ago) link
I hear that Ben Shapiro isn't considered alt-right by people in the alt-right because he's Jewish.
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
he may not consider himself alt-right, but he is alt-right adjacent
― be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
It's good that alt right types are engaging in sectarianism and authenticity arguments, but I don't think the rest of us need bother to distinguish.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link
These stupid labels. He may not be their boyfriend but they sure are seeing a lot of each other.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
at least he says he is a Conservative, which is preferable to these 'classical liberal / the left left me' balloons.
― anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
A federal judge has dropped all charges against three men who were indicted on conspiracy charges for inciting riots across California. The members of RAM were ordered to be released today in an LA courtroom. Reporting for @CourthouseNews— Nathan Solis (@CNSNathan) June 3, 2019
I know better than to expect courts to protect us from these shithead but goddamn this is infuriating
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link