A John Carpenter Poll

i don't really find The Thing to be particularly frightening -- it's got the gore and the suspense about who's still human and who isn't, but it's more of just an absurdly entertaining and well-paced sci-fi horror ensemble piece.

those kids who staged Alien as a theater production should do The Thing next.

cannot explain why my opinion of prince of darkness evolved from "goofy but interesting and cool" to "mortally terrifying masterpiece" but here we are

This transition took place for me while I was watching the movie for the first time, and it's still scary as hell every time I pull it out (I own the DVD). Also, watching it for the first time in 20 years or so and suddenly realizing that DJ Shadow had sampled the "transmissions from the future" on Endtroducing was a major *head explode* moment.

PoD
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The typing, leading to "IN FACT, YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED".
- The blank-eyes stares of the two women guarding the morphing host.
- "Faaaaaaaaaather." as the host reaches through the liquid mirror.
- Jameson Parker waking up from the transmission, and the feeling of inevitability as he reaches towards a mirror.

i don't really find The Thing to be particularly frightening -- it's got the gore and the suspense about who's still human and who isn't, but it's more of just an absurdly entertaining and well-paced sci-fi horror ensemble piece.

those kids who staged Alien as a theater production should do The Thing next.

― omar little, Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:44 AM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark

i find the thing really hard to watch. just find a lot of those effects really eerily gruesome

Whoops, sent too soon, with so many other examples why PoD edges out Halloween as favorite JC horror flick: the dissolving body in the parking lot, Alice Cooper, Dennis Dun, the swirling goo that drips upwards, Donald Pleasance, Jessie Lawrence Ferguson's cry/laugh reaction to being undead, Lisa Blount reaching backwards from the other side, the evolving content of the transmission, etc.

it is just full of great terrifying ideas and standout performances and it's also a kind of slasher movie where the monster is entombed satan goo and aaaah

i really love the shot where the decomposed and satan-possessed kelly looks at her pocket mirror on the floor

Prince of Darkness is like a masterclass for depictions of the unheimlich... animate dead, eyeless living, physics-defying secretions, events proceeding contrary to time, airless mirror worlds, indifferent gods

swarming insects, measuring devices vs the unmeasurable, explicit fate, that dude's mustache

jesus was not human but an alien from a human-like species!!!! god i live for that shit

Okay, okay, you've all convinced me, I'll rewatch ASAP.

I know my position remains controversial but Halloween is easily my least favorite of the Carpenter films I've seen. It does v v little for me.

Most overrated horror movie by some distance. Although Suspiria is a not-too-distant second.

what kind of horror do you like?

no judgment intended, just curious!

I probably am guilty of mostly liking non-horror horror

A very big and broad question! Actually don't think I'm that into slashers, for a start. I dig the first four Elm Streets but the Friday the 13th and Halloween series (minus my beloved Halloween 3) are largely snoozefests.

But I love the genre on the whole. I think I have like 500+ horror movies in my collection.

Possession is likely my favorite, so I'm also very into the horror-not-horror.

i didn't *get* halloween for a long time but it's exactly like how it took me forever to *get* celtic frost, it inspired so much and has blended so thoroughly into the culture around it that it can be initially hard to see what's special about it. but the last time i watched it i spent the entire time enthralled by the gliding camera movements through haddonfield

but also yeah not liking slashers v much in general would be another obstacle

regardless i insist you get into bad '80s canadian slashers like the initiation ol, thanks ahead of time for altering your taste just for me

I get Halloween in the same way I get The French Connection, i.e. it was an innovator which has been so subsequently cannibalized that it loses much of its latter-day impact. I can appreciate its influence and place in horror history, it's just that my eyes kinda glaze over when it's on.

And specifically wrt the thread topic, it's lacking much of the random batshittery and goofiness that makes so many other Carpenter films so appealing to me.

Good slasher pics off the top of my head: OG Texas Chainsaw, Tourist Trap, Pieces. I'm sure there are others. Even Black Christmas, though, doesn't do a lot for me.

It hasn't been mentioned quite enough times on this thread how utterly terrible Vampires is. I remember Kent Jones writing something around the time it came out that John Carpenter has never made a movie he should feel embarrassed over and thinking, "Um, right here!"

I like Vampires. It's dumb as shit, but it's fun.

And it looks really good. Carpenter hadn't lost his eye yet.

My only enduring memory of that movie is James Woods saying "f*gg**" as much as he could get away with.

I'm kinda curious to watch his Masters of Horror episodes but also...not that curious?

I kinda feel like, independent of the actual quality of the films in question, it might be difficult to watch any movie starring James Woods these days.

Videodrome aside, yes.

"Cigarette Burns" is about as good as the show got, I'd say. Not his best work, but at least he showed up the rest of them. "Pro-Life" is less good and more grisly.

oh wait shit i forgot to mention this:

my wife has been dealing with her folks' financial stuff for several years now, and the guy who is the financial advisor she's worked with is Richie Castle, all grown up

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/headhuntershorrorhouse/images/8/8f/Richie_meets_the_Shape.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141001142055

He doesn't appear to have grown up all that much tbh.

They Live gets deserved credit for a honest depiction of Reagan's America, it's worthwhile for that alone

They Live is worthwhile as a big dumb goofy fun genre movie, but I always thought it gets waayyyyy too much credit as political/social commentary. It was 1988 after all - like yes, at last, a piece of culture that's finally brave enough to critique the greed and excess of Reagan's America, only a mere 8 years into Reagan's presidency. It's fun to see people fight weird gross monsters or w/e, but the idea of it as a piece of Serious Subversive Commentary always seemed a little rich to me. Would have worked just as well or better as a music video or an episode of Amazing Stories or something imho

I always thought of The Thing as the quintessential 80's/"Reagan's America" movie in Carpenter's filmography.

I assume that you mean that the Thing was the brave conservative simply trying to survive an assault on its values by a bunch of godless beardo hippie liberals who refused to conform to its dream of uniformity through assimilation.

xp to Eric

I personally like to think James Woods died five minutes after the release of Videodrome. Tragic.

xp Old Lunch, plus theres the obvious reference to the time that William Casey's stomach opened up and bit the arms off Ed Meese

woods is good in salvador

I think the credit it gets is for the on-screen depiction of Reagan's America, not necessarily the critique

Love this pic of Dario Argento and John Carpenter at Cannes this year:

https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60197465_2348460075235529_5242926505905881088_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-1.fna&oh=ce89c4adecbbd30560327fc7abb37a3a&oe=5D71C203

they live

id never seen precinct 13

its bad

no movie which features a kid getting shot dead in the first couple of minutes can be entirely bad iirc

Nah, it's good, just kind of formative.

i promise you ive just seen it, its bad

Great score at least.

yep

and girl moment and slow setup are good

performances are shockin tho

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‘Assault.. ‘ is great! What a movie! I always loved the story of how it did nothing in the States but then became a big hit in Britain at festivals where everyone went crazy over it. I hated Dark Star which is about as funny as a pin through the eye, so it tickles me that his co-writer on that hated ‘Assault..’. Interesting to note it currently has 98% on Rotten tomatoes.

It was a cast of as-good-as-unknowns so that explains the unpolished acting I suppose.

feel i normally align with darragh on films but Assault on Precinct 13 is good and James Morrison makes an excellent point.