Top 100 Ambient Albums

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Hmm, I think I might actually have the time to run this, if people are interested?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

That'd be great!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

Ummmmm yeah!!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

Yup!

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

This is the thread in which I discover that Lukas, LBI, Tuomas, KM, and Chinaski all have me killfiled.

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

:p

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

I can nominate some vapor ambient stuff, but not an expert on the larger topic at all

i'm listening to Sleepline by New Dreams Ltd right now and I'm curious if something like this would qualify

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

xp no way leee, i just forgot! i'm just pumped for the poll, whoever ends up running it :)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

I had the bartender put a few drops in my beer last week. Horrible idea , turned it into soap abd caused it to overflow.

_I can nominate some vapor ambient stuff, but not an expert on the larger topic at all_


i'm listening to Sleepline by New Dreams Ltd right now and I'm curious if something like this would qualify


I don’t see why not ...

calstars, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

i don't envy the pollrunner on this one, tackling issues of what counts as ambient

i have a very expansive/permissive view of what "counts" in any genre, but i'm sure there will be questions about, say, seefeel's more well known albums

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Xp hah - no way, leee! I got my 'l's mixed up and thought you'd sworn off cos you'd got the job. I'm up for it whoever runs it.

I'd prolly say NO Seefeel because beats but happy to be swayed. (While acknowledging there are some utterly beautiful ambient moments on Seefeel records, ofc.)

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

Thanks, chums!

As for what counts... if we say beats != ambient, then that would disqualify SAW and SAWII... and they have "ambient" in their titles!

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

and Gas albums have beats as well! or at least, they have pulses. :)

anyway, i prefer not to participate in the What is Ambient? wars of 2019, but i'll be very happy to choose my ballot from whatever makes it through the sift

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

also, very timely poll, as i just got David Toop's Ocean of Sound book on ambient music in the mail

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I won't die on the NO BEATS hill. Happy to vote on whatever appears.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

Can't say how excited I would be about this poll, were there anyone to run it. Sad.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

lllooolll

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

The recent-ish (2018?) Jurg Frey 5-disc album on Erstwhile = top ambient

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 16 May 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link

...if you like the sounds of ocean surf, jet planes carving holes in the sky, passive (background / adjacent room-) listening, incidental sounds, vague tonal content, and silence

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 16 May 2019 06:40 (four years ago) link

also, very timely poll, as i just got David Toop's Ocean of Sound book on ambient music in the mail

― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Excellent book.

Oh and Leee I'd never killfile you, honest!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 May 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link

i don't understand what this is supposed to be saying:

if Eluvium is on this list there's no credible reason the first two Enya albums wouldn't be, except Pitchfork finds her way too unbeardly

alpine static, Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

Me neither.

I propose a totally free nomination process, beats/no beats, the voters will decide what they deem ambient. We're more or less adults here, I think we can do without strict rules?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that's how I'm thinking of doing the poll. I think I'm gonna write some simple guidelines of how ambient is usually defined, to steer the nominations, but I'm not gonna disqualify anything if someone feels it's ambient.

For example, to me it seems pretty evident that SAW 1 is not ambient (despite the title of the) because of its dancey rhythms and beats, while SAW II is. But if someone still wants to nom the further, why not. But since we've had numerous generic polls on electronic music, I'm hoping this won't turn into one too, so hopefully people will at least consider what ambient means before nomming their favourite Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada albums.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

if SAW1 counts then I'd think early LPs by The Black Dog and Autechre should also count

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

I don't think any of those count as ambient, but I'd like to hear justifications why they would?

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

I mean, if the one characteristic of ambient most people agree on that it's non-intrusive and doesn't call attention to it, then the jerky mood and rhythm changes of something like Spanners or Temple of Transparent Balls would absolutely disqualify it.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

The first four Enya albums are amazing (the next four... less so) but I wouldn't call them ambient. Enya is Enya.

Would love to see everyone's top ten or twenty too!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I love Enya, and there are many new age albums that are among my favourite ambient records, but her music isnt ambient, it's too song-oriented.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

SAW1 shouldn't be eligible imho.

Let the great ambient gatekeeping begin.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

hey tuomas, can i passionately argue for the inclusion of a field recording that i made of a train that's on my hard drive and no one else has ever heard, just so that i can be the one person that votes for it?

(jk)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

everything is permissible but nothing is ambient

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

FSOL and Banco De Gaia, ambient or not?

Siegbran, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

FSOL has to be, how can Lifeforms not be ambient?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

Zoning out to saw1 after too much drink and drugs when I was far too young, as the sun rose over the trees, where me and my friends sat in sleeping bags we needed only for comfort, in a bright light back room in the west of england, we knew we were already late for saturday jobs, but it was alright because this music

Isn't ambient?

kraudive, Monday, 20 May 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link

Posted on the wrong thread. Not to be I suppose

kraudive, Monday, 20 May 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link


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