The National - Trouble Will Find Me

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Man, "Not In Kansas." It's been ... I don't know how long since I heard a song that made me want to focus on and figure out its lyrics so badly.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:30 (four months ago) link

when "Rylan starts, I sing, "Got my mind SET. ON. YOU."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:37 (four months ago) link

i like the "flowers of guatamala" reference ("the flowers cover over everything") a couple of verses after "i'm listening to r.e.m. again"

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:45 (four months ago) link

The contemporary classical bent of whichever one of the brothers is into that stuff really pays off on this album's arrangements.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:50 (four months ago) link

this is so long and so unified in its approach that I'm having a hard time parsing individual songs as opposed to a constantly alternating set of peaks and valleys. which I guess for some will be sort of an apotheosis of Their Thing but I'm not really finding any points of entry beyond a few standout ideas here and there. "You Had Your Soul With You" had me hoping this wouldn't be the case. (as always I reserve the right to change my mind later lol)

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:09 (four months ago) link

like, there are a ton of sonic ideas here but all of them are incorporated into every single track, y'know? relax!!

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:10 (four months ago) link

Brad, you are getting me very excited about this new album. it's not on Spotify until Friday however.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:57 (four months ago) link

They're the most intricately boring band I've ever heard.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:05 (four months ago) link

"you had your soul with you" is absolutely their best track ever

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:09 (four months ago) link

simon i have a feeling you’ll like this the more you spend time with it. it wasn’t billed as a double album but it works like one: the songs talk to each other, and it works itself into weird subspaces. oddly i think watching the movie is a way in too, it enriches specific lyrics

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:07 (four months ago) link

i will say the album is more ballad-forward than i expected or hoped but i’ve already adjusted

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:08 (four months ago) link

yeah same

the only real dud for me is Rylan which i know is apparently a fan favourite because it's been floating around for 8 years or something but it's still them at their most middle-of-the-road even though the arrangement is a lot better than it would have been a decade ago

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:49 (four months ago) link

I think the album is a bundle of good contradictions. It's not really a double album but feels like one, it's ballad heavy but not necessarily chill, it's got some of Matt's best lyrics and singing but he often takes a back seat to other singers and singing, it's got some pretty jarring experimental elements but it's totally MOR. And so on.

Oh, and needless to say, the drumming is incredible.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:52 (four months ago) link

i love every lyric and sound in "quiet light"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:14 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S37thEwlWPA

good performance of "you had your soul with you", with string section and second drummer (no gail ann dorsey though)

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:17 (four months ago) link

learning how not to cry every time there's another sad unbearable morning
but sometimes there's nothing i can do
i can't help it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:17 (four months ago) link

the drumming on "quiet light" is brilliant, bryan devendorf seems to get better with every album somehow

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:23 (four months ago) link

So these guys are definitely going all-in on everything - strings, singers, horns, etc. - for this tour?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:49 (four months ago) link

they've had a horn section forever but idk whether the strings etc. are sticking around for the tour or are only around for the run of album/film premiere dates they've been doing over the last month

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:54 (four months ago) link

wow i REALLY love this album

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 23:09 (four months ago) link

https://www.nme.com/news/national-rockier-songs-leftover-may-get-freezer-2488317

apparently they've got a bunch of rockier material left over from the Sleep Well Beast sessions that didn't make this album either since it didn't fit the mood of the film etc. so i hope that'll be more "the system only dreams"/"you had your soul with you" than "turtleneck" whenever it sees the light of day

ufo, Thursday, 16 May 2019 05:41 (four months ago) link

The contemporary classical bent of whichever one of the brothers is into that stuff really pays off on this album's arrangements.

That is Bryce! His own chamber music is def worth checking out

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:07 (four months ago) link

it's the way that you're going to stop needing to tell me you want me as much as i want you to

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:56 (four months ago) link

Their best album.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:21 (four months ago) link

yep

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:22 (four months ago) link

I've never top tenned one of their albums before.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:24 (four months ago) link

me neither, and it usually takes me a while to figure out how i feel about them, cf. the album this thread is named after

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:25 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXnnn8z1tE

i get why people would dismiss "rylan," feels like it's borrowed most of its rumble from "apartment story" to create the most national national song ever, but... it's so catchy

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:47 (four months ago) link

I just thought of perfect "feat. female guest singer" example that kind of pulls off what this album does: "My Curse," by fellow (can it be a coincidence?) Cincinnati sons Afghan Whigs.

Also, maybe "You're Still Standing There" by Steve Earle, when previously more or less AWOL Lucinda Williams suddenly pops up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:13 (four months ago) link

I didn't realize that the album was made in such close collaboration with Mike Mills, who even produced. Has he produced anything else?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:17 (four months ago) link

Marcy Mays on "My Curse" feels to me like much more direct and successful attempt at a counterpoint/perspective change than anything here.

Simon H., Friday, 17 May 2019 15:19 (four months ago) link

anyway I can already tell this is going to be yet another one of those albums where I stick to listening to my own resequence/edit and get a lot more out of it that way

Simon H., Friday, 17 May 2019 15:21 (four months ago) link


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