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Cool. Are you talking about something you read in Testimony?

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 May 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link

No, a discussion upthread, but mis-remembered re Robertson's misgivings, sorry, should have re-read. Still, the proposed song sequence seems good, even though I don't have a radio show.

dow, Monday, 13 May 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

actually went and looked for that radio show but all I could find was an on-air personality with your same last name.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 May 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

Timely revive, as I discovered today that the vinyl copy of the s/t I got on eBay was delivered to someone else at the wrong address way the hell across town.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 May 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link

I'm usually put off by ensemble 'all star band' stuff, but damn you can't deny that above clip.

Sam Weller, Monday, 13 May 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link

Thought the revive would be for this:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8510996/robbie-robertson-the-band-documentary

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 May 2019 08:09 (four years ago) link

The 75-year-old Robertson, who was inducted into the Canadian Music Industry Hall of Fame Thursday night (May 9) at Toronto's Canadian Music and Broadcast Industry Awards, has an incredibly busy year, including finishing a new solo album, scoring the music for Scorsese's new film, The Irishman, remixing music for the 50th anniversary reissue of The Band album, and writing the follow-up memoir to 2016's Testimony.

uh-oh

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 13 May 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link

he might just be remixing outtakes?

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

Is there a good place to read about The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down and if it is pro-Confederacy? Always just thought it was about how wars chew young people up into fodder regardless of the "cause", a Vietnam allegory, but as I've gotten older and learned what that war was actually about (I'm from the UK) I feel less comfortable about it.

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link

This article pretty much covers it:

http://theband.hiof.no/articles/dixie_viney.html

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

The whole of Music From Big Pink got remixed by Bob Clearmountain last year though, which doesn't augur well

xxp

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

thanks anagram - and oh yikes, that is not good news!

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link

Not quite as must see as the last clip- no Garth for one thing- but from the same tour, and still Levon and Rick. Like what Nils and Joe Walsh are doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUwb1ToTkpk

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 May 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

This looks great although.. yeah the comments making it very plain that it should not ave the name 'Robbie Robertson and.. '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYTpMZjZxwI

piscesx, Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

Would watch despite the title.

We Jam von Economo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link

For sure

calstars, Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link

Shit, looks great. Though yeah, with Levon, Rick and Richard dead, that more or less leaves Robbie and Garth to tell the story. Yet the one (negative) review I read said that Garth is barely in it, and Robbie's over-rehearsed and apparently uncontested versions of his truth begin to grate.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:56 (four years ago) link

isn't it based on his memoir? I cannot wait to see this, but given Robbie's long friendship with Scorsese I wouldn't be surprised if its entirely Robbie-centric

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 20 January 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link

Robbie Robertson is entirely Robbie-centric.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Monday, 20 January 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

What blows my mind about The Last Waltz is how few 'The Band' songs are in it!

piscesx, Monday, 20 January 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link

Funny this thread got revived. My pick of covers.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link

Fuck Robbie Robertson.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:48 (four years ago) link

no!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:49 (four years ago) link

Like, what a dick. Maybe he and Scorsese will die of coke-induced heart attacks in the after party.

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

"Once we were brothers, but I have to get top billing."

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link

we've discussed his songs enough -- let's discuss Robertson the man

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link

Which songs, the ones he wrote or the ones he took credit for?

We're jumping on the road with @Nickelback this summer! (PBKR), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

He tried to take most of the songwriting credits for the Band, but basically has written next to nothing of note in the decades since they broke up. Hmmm ...

(See also: dude from Soul Coughing)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2020 02:40 (four years ago) link

There's good stuff on the first Robbie solo album. Too bad about the singing tho.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 January 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link

NPR used to have an audio-only HDTV channel called Mixtape, which offered daily block programming of what I guess could be described as "Adult Alternative" mixed with some Classic Rock and Oldies. More than once I heard a Peter Gabriel track segued into the original of "Broken Arrow", which I always thought was a cheeky move on part of the programmer given how hard Robertson was biting PG on that album.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 January 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

The Band made good records without Robbie. Robbie couldn't even manage a tolerable record without the Band.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

They only did ... two without him? The only thing I remember is the (excellent) Springsteen cover.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

Even Levon was less than prolific, though his final albums are great.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

Surprising that The Last Waltz soundtrack has never been polled.

piscesx, Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

My negative take on Robbie has softened somewhat over the years. He's the one who kept getting those drunks into a studio and on tour, after all. But seriously, fuck that title.

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

xp to alfred's list - i hate that i have to admit that the jakob dylan cover of whispering pines is good

YES to a last waltz sdtk poll

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

The Mekons cover is inspired.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link

They only did ... two without him? The only thing I remember is the (excellent) Springsteen cover.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:25 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Three! Jericho, High on the Hog, and Jubilation. They're not spectacular by any means, but unlike, say, "American Roulette," listening to them doesn't make me shout STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT at the speakers.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

The latter day Band's "Blind Willie McTell" is great too.

i've seen the new doc and it is basically the visual cliffs notes for robbie's memoir. some good live/rehearsal footage, but nothing too revelatory. robbie is pretty insufferable, no new garth interviews. i don't even take a hard line on Robertson — incredible guitarist, a pretty strong run songwriting-wise from the late 60s to early 70s. But the eagerness with which he trots out the same old shit is just boring.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

It's kind of baffling that he never found a decent context/vehicle for his brilliant playing post-Band (or did he and I missed it?)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link

i don't think so — seems like he is fairly uninterested in the guitar, really! which is crazy, he really was one of the greats.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

whoever wrote it, unfaithful servant is a fuckin great song, ain't it

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

what DID he do to the lady???

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Yes but he’s not really a nice guy https://t.co/KkUH6v6BSP

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) September 15, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

lol croz is such a messy bitch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

someone should start a new poll, who is the bigger asshole david crosby or robbie robertson?

jbn, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

at this point it's probably croz

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

My lazy self posted upthread about "The Night..." without listening again, just misremembering ol' Virgil as a farmer who happened to fall victim to whatever troops, one generic example collateral damage, from the subset of those left alive and workin'. However, let's review---words from bobdylan.com (because, ad reminds us, it's on Before The Flood:
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
WRITTEN BY: J.R. ROBERTSON

Virgil Caine is the name,

and I served on the Danville train,

'Til Stoneman's cavalry

came and tore up the tracks again.

In the winter of '65,

We were hungry, just barely alive.

By May the tenth, Richmond had fell,

it's a time I remember, oh so well,

The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,
They went

La, La, La, La, La, La,

La, La, La, La, La, La,

La, La,

Back with my wife in Tennessee,

When one day she called to me,

"Virgil, quick, come see,

there goes Robert E. Lee!"

Now I don't mind choppin' wood,

and I don't care if the money's no good.

Ya take what ya need and ya leave the rest,

But they should never have taken the very best.
(Chorus)
Like my father before me,

I will work the land,

Like my brother above me,

who took a rebel stand.

He was just eighteen, proud and brave,

But a Yankee laid him in his grave,

I swear by the mud below my feet,

You can't raise a Caine back up

when he's in defeat.
So Virgil was not just a farmer in the War, but he wasn't a soldier either, volunteer or conscript (of which there were many, some forcible, as in the North). So you could say he was complicit, but maybe it was just or mainly a job, his railroad trade, after leaving (getting away from?) the farm (started out in a farming family, as eventually mentioned). But wait, "served on", was he a soldier after all, or was it that this line, from what I've read elsewhere (w/o wanting to go back into the bottomless lake of the Civil War rabbithole), which supplied Richmond during the war, counts as war service for all such workers? Either way, he was in there, and yep Gen. George Stoneman's Union cavalry tore it up more than once.
So he goes back, during the winter of '65, with no Union aid yet coming or whatever they worked out, and he's back in Tenn. keeping his head down, and yeah re that Viney discussion linked upthread, the Robert E. Lee bit does seem like an Elvis sighting etc., since Lee isn't known to have visited that part of the South , also he's being rational re "You take what you need and you leave the rest," applying to soldiers and civilian survivors, or that's how they should be, within limits.
But his brother, Johnny Reb or not, saluted as such, is still his dead brother, with whom he grew up farming, for instance, and gone as Robert E. Lee. The South's not gonna rise again, not the way some who celebrate the Confederacy want, and, The chorus is a kind of funeral elegy, bells ringing that-a way.
Kane, or however you spell it is farming 'til the crops come back and maybe crowd the memories and the empty spaces a little.
So it does leave some areas to be filled in however you want, but still think it's more for commiseration than glorification or false equivalence (I hope).

dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

In the winter of '65,

We were hungry, just barely alive.

By May the tenth, Richmond had fell,: Oh, so the worst of it may have been when the cut-off Danville-Richmond sector ran out of food---physically, he may be more or less okay in Tennessee, the home state of now-President Johnson. But well-fed enough to think about something other than food...

dow, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

Also, who the hell cares if Robert E. Lee is back or not? He doesn't mention responding to his wife when she tells him, just goes on with his thoughts, sorting it out and mourning his brother.

dow, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link


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