Who will win the Palme at Cannes? [2019 edition]

I always abstain cuz I give even less of a shit than I do bout the oscars

right now I have no idea what won last year. was it Frederik's Elephant?

Shoplifters

it was a great film!

I don't think I'm as immersed in the film world as you. to me this is a way of discovering new stuff

can't argue with Ken Loach being 5 nominations better than JLG or 6 better than Bunuel

I've never seen a Carlos Saura film before, or a Marco Bellocchio or Pietro Germi film for that matter

or one by Miklos Jancso, Alf Sjoberg, Joseph Losey, Delbert Mann, Nagisa Oshima, Francesco Rosi, Dino Risi or others

I’m going to take any Malick pre-screening hype as PR these days...

this 'nominations' stuff is unheard of (cuz it's nonsense)

You should watch a few Jancsos, Dan :) The early ones are really good.

if only I could

All of Jancso's major films available from Second Run DVD:

http://www.secondrundvd.com/browse.html

I guess I will have to buy them to see them, I'm not opposed to that for films I really care about watching, but why can't there be a streaming or rental service available for all of these films

There is a wonderful appreciation of of his classic Red Psalm by Raymond Durgnat. It was on the web somewhere but I cannot find it right now

The wind that shakes the barley winning the palme is a bit of a travesty

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:25 (one week ago) Permalink

No its not. Its one of the best movies he's ever made.

There's one Jancso on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL55D5l7M5g

Not the best one, but along with The Red and the White it might be the most purely Jancsonian?

why does everyone hate ken loach?

At least half of the 13 films he has had in Cannes should have been nowhere near main competition. The Angels Share? Jimmy's Hall? Looking for Eric? He's always invited back, no matter how mediocre or insignificant his latest is. And meanwhile Fremaux is constantly fretting that they can't possibly have more women in main competition, because it needs to be ONLY the best, no matter what. And then in 2016, when a woman was the bookmakers favorite to become only the third woman to win the main award, and the first one to do it solo, instead they gave a second one to the old white man who has been there 12 times, and Mr Loach had the audacity to go onto the stage and say that this award showed another world is possible. It's the combination of always claiming to be on the side of the oppressed, while literally being the most privileged person in the history of the festival, and not wanting to deal with that hypocrisy.

But Kes is definitely good.

I don't hate Ken Loach although he is very much a social realist film maker and that is what Cannes deals in a lot of the time.

The work on female representation and participation is very much about changing the way the film industry works. Loach is an old socialist and probably a bit tone deaf in on a lot of that other politics, a speech on the lack of representation might help and create some heat on it but it's also no good to rag on somebody whose whole life is making films around the oppressed and getting working class voices and struggles on screen. There is no pretence there, the guy has had his struggles but he never traded his basic principles

The Price of Coal is classic. But I find most Loach movies worthy but completely incurious exercises in idealising the lower classes and there is no shade they all mostly as uninteresting as Millet's depictions of noble peasants toiling in the fields.

the characters in it I mean

Yeah I don't fuck with a lot of what he does, and I get that the bar he is clearing is a low one.

I don't hate Loach either but just as a part of history the fact that I, Daniel Blake won while Toni Erdmann went away empty-handed was bad

haven't seen Kes yet, it's on my list! I'm not any kind of expert on the Irish War for Independence, but The Wind That Shakes the Barley was my favorite of the 6 or 7 Loach films I have seen. I agree it didn't deserve to win over Colossal Youth, though

thanks for the link to Red Psalm, Frederik, I'm going to watch it on my tv screen

Colossal Youth was never going to win at Cannes lol

There is a wonderful appreciation of of his classic Red Psalm by Raymond Durgnat. It was on the web somewhere but I cannot find it right now

Here we go:
http://www.rouge.com.au/8/red_psalm.html

I'm sure I've seen predominately the wrong Ken Loach films (i.e. not Kes, yet).

Well, yeah, that's the other annoying thing. That his constant presence in Cannes since 1990 has meant his latest crap kinda overshadows the earlier, more interesting films. Kes, Poor Cow, Looks and Smiles, The Price of Coal. They're good? But it's The Angels Share which is shown on Danish television repeatedly.

Thanks Ward.

Land and Freedom and Kes are my favourite Loach films. A lot of his films suffer from telling people who are already sympathetic to his/our cause things they already know but when they work they do it well and I'm happy for him to keep making them. The best Dardennes' films wouldn't exist without Loach but Two Days, One Night, for example, is better written and acted than most of his late films.

I've only seen Kes and I, Daniel Blake but I liked the latter much more

The wind that shakes the barley winning the palme is a bit of a travesty

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:25 (one week ago) Permalink

No its not. Its one of the best movies he's ever made.

― . (Michael B), Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:07 AM (two days ago) Bookmark

it's very unsubtle. the action scenes are terribly shot, they look almost unbelievably-shoddy. but as a student of irish nationalist movements and the RA and all that the main issue for me is the strange politics of the piece. if you come in blind to the movie with no context you would assume that the anti-treaty side in the irish civil war were all james connolly loving socialists and that the main division between the two sides were social issues.

i, daniel blake is very good imo.

I still will never forget a friend of mine weighing in on The Wind That Shakes the Barley with the following synopsis:

To everyone who liked THE WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY:

OK so I've watched an hour of this thing now, and Jesus Christ is it one goddam monotonous scene after another. Is there any reason to watch the next hour?

Summary of the screenplay:

FADE IN

[Evil, rampaging English soldiers rush in with guns]

Soldier: You fucking Irish bastards!
Soldier: Get over here!
Soldier: Fucking Fenian fuckers!
Soldier: Irish scum!

[They hit innocent Irish lads in the face with guns, kill some]

FADE OUT

FADE IN

[Evil, rampaging English soldiers rush in with guns]

Soldier: What's your name you fucking Irish scum?!
Soldier: What's your name?
Irish lad: [sings a rousing traditional Gaelic song in defiance, gets shot]
Soldier: Fucking Irish fuckers!

FADE OUT

FADE IN

[Irish rebels fight back, silently kill some English soldiers, finish scene by singing rousing traditional Gaelic song in defiance, heads hung low]

FADE OUT

FADE IN

[English soldiers rush in with guns]

Soldier: Get the fuck down you fucking Irish fuckers!
Soldier: What's your name?!
Soldier: Fenian fucker!
Soldier: You bastards!

[Old Irish woman cries]

Soldier: Fucking move, you bitch! [Hits in face with gun]

[Irishmen are beaten up, English soldiers laugh menacingly]

FADE OUT

FADE IN

Repeat scene from RED DAWN when good guy turns traitor, has to get shot by another good guy, sadness. These are the true casualties of war, etc.

FADE OUT

ZOMG RINSE REPEAT, MORE MORE MORE OF THE SAME

Are you kidding Best Picture at Cannes? I liked it better when Charlie Sheen and Patrick Swayze were in it.

i've forgotten his weigh-in already

#Photocall of the Jury 📸#Cannes2019 pic.twitter.com/PoFRwY1HES

— Festival de Cannes (@Festival_Cannes) May 14, 2019

LOL, I missed that the Kechiche is four hours long.

Oh boy!

#Cannes2019 jury president Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu: "I will not call it judgement. I don’t like to judge films. I like to be impregnated by them."

— Ramin Setoodeh (@RaminSetoodeh) May 14, 2019

kelly reichardt so tiny!

the Jarmusch seems incredibly lame

https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/the-dead-dont-die-review-adam-driver-bill-murray-1203213609/

Reviews seem pretty lame across the board. I'm glad; the movie looked stupid.

kinda like 90% of zombie films

You're awfully generous this morning.

I like a number of them! The 10%.

ugh the Malick is 3 hours

An hour shorter than the Kechiche, tho.

oh god and it's a sequel to a movie that was already 3 hours. did anyone see it?

Nope, I'm waiting for the whole thing. There's going to be a third part, right? Otherwise, why call part two for 'Intermezzo'?

In a few weeks, the local cinemateque will show all three parts of Kobayashi's The Human Condition in one day, and I'll definitely go. And I imagine watching all of Mektoub My Love in one go will be just as good.

As much as I admired The Secret of the Grain, I want him to stop making movies now.

same

I was a little proud of coining the term Palme d'Homme, should he win again.

I've only seen five of these so far, sigh. Dead Don't Die just came on VOD here.

Atlantique/Atlantics is on Netflix.

The only chatter I've heard about the Hausner is about ti being not v good

I don't know! https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6374-jessica-hausner-s-little-joe

Ben Whishaw makes everything that he is in bad, imo.

I like him fine. He helps this film's drollness.

he swivels his eyes from side to side like an eagle-eyes action man which is apparently how he has decided to do emotion/anxiety but he does it all the time.

Watched "Atlantique" last night on Netflix; my pops has a ridiculous-sized HD TV so I've been taking advantage and binging on good stuff. For a first timer Diop hit this one waaay out the ballpark. A great film.

Yeah, it's my favourite from competition so far.

The Traitor is unexpectedly rigorous and tough.

Anyone watch Young Ahmed? It's on Amazon Prime (for a fee).