What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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jeez, Karl, it's Friday -- we won climate change

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Karl yes but the idea here is that by saying it, you MAKE it happen - now the ball's in their court. whether that does anything, who knows, but it's worth staking out the claim pre-emptively imo

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

that didn't happen

Sometimes mischaracterizing your opponent's position is winning politics. God knows the GOP use this as their comprehensive approach to every position that doesn't follow their party line.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link

Sometimes mischaracterizing your opponent's position is winning politics.

"You and I know it's not true, but let's make the son of a bitch deny it!"

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

here's a challop for you: given our immediate political peril, i am not only okay with the left prevaricating about shit that genuinely doesn't matter if it helps move the needle on things that do, i would GREATLY APPRECIATE MORE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

otm

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

it's not even prevaricating, it's rhetoric imho - - - - if you're on the listserv of any campaign fighting anything it's full of stuff like this. it's how you make people feel like they're on the side that's going to win BUT that the other side are still being actively villainous and fighting tooth and nail to try and stop it, so they can't be complacent.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

yeah, i mean...i see where everyone's coming from

i guess i read AOC's tweet as too much of a "mission accomplished, now the next thing" kind of statement. upon extensive further review that was projection on my part

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

but it works cf "we are already building the wall"

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

When truth is a rhetorical option, we all lose.

But lets just savor this, I guess.

nonsense upon stilts (Sanpaku), Friday, 10 May 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

When truth is a rhetorical option, we all lose.

Best line in Spirts of the Material World

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

When truth is a rhetorical option, we all lose.

This was one of Socrates' main talking points. But the truth is (see what I did there?) that the option of lying outright, or shading the truth to whatever fine degree is in your linguistic power, is an option quickly discovered by every child capable of assembling a complete sentence. It was never possible to make truth mandatory.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 May 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

well that said, rhetoric and slogans are things the republicans are really good at, e.g. their recent arguments about abortion, we really need to start adopting their strategies and changing the conversation

Dan S, Friday, 10 May 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

McConnell mumbled "it's man-made" to one of his play partners while he was semi-conscious in a dungeon

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

there is no political sah-lution.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link

lol Alfred <3

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link

The truth is there are no rules any longer and the sooner the Dems get this the better.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 11 May 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

"when they go low, we lose elections"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link

in political terms, the Democrats are a basketball team still committed to shooting mid-range jumpers

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

so AOC is trae young bombing threes from the logo

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

i guess? i don't think about my posts i just hoist

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

dems who hoist: AOC, warren, bernie
dems who dribble into a contested midrange baseline j: biden

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

can we return to an English-only thread plz thnks

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

wow like all great prophets im being persecuted in my own times

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Alfred gets a flagrant 2

Nesting Doll Yacht Rich is a very good turn of phrase.

Yerac, Sunday, 12 May 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

oh my GOD look what i found at the comic shop today 😂 pic.twitter.com/58jp9iX1A2

— Tatum Flynn (@Tatum_Flynn) May 24, 2019

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 May 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

oooof

https://deadspin.com/fresno-grizzlies-are-sorry-for-memorial-day-video-that-1835063084

But when it reached the part of the speech where Reagan addressed “the enemies of freedom,” the following images were shown: A protester in a beanie with an anti-fascist slogan, Kim Jong-un, U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Fidel Castro, protesters holding a “NO TRUMP NO KKK” signs, and protesters holding an “ANTIFA” sign.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

BREAKING: Ted Cruz has had sex at least 16 times


On Wednesday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) proposed a new bipartisan bill to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY): Make birth control available over the counter.

When Ocasio-Cortez tweeted “Birth control should be over-the-counter, pass it on,” the GOP senator responded with “I agree.”

“Perhaps, in addition to the legislation we are already working on together to ban Members of Congress from becoming lobbyists, we can team up here as well,” Cruz tweeted. “A simple, clean bill making birth control available over the counter. Interested?”

Although Cruz is staunchly anti-abortion, the Republican lawmaker has expressed support for contraceptives in the past.

“Now, listen, I have been a conservative my entire life,” Cruz said during a presidential campaign stop in 2015. “I have never met anybody, any conservative, who wants to ban contraceptives. As I noted, Heidi and I, we have two little girls. I’m very glad we don’t have 17.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ted-cruz-aoc-bipartisan-bill-birth-control-over-the-counter

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

i have a feeling cruz is about to meet some conservatives who want to ban contraceptives

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

Ted Cruz had more sex than I did in 2015!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

"...we can team up here as well."

I think somebody has a little crush!

pplains, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

There's been a lot of Ted Cruz/AOC wheeling and dealing lately. Not sure what to make of it or if it will amount to anything.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link

Don't see the big deal so long as she/we get what she/we want.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

Yeah, definitely. Cruz is just looking for an opportunity to work with a renowned evil communist so he can he’s bipartisan when he runs again in 2024

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

So he can ^say^

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

Both can tell their constituents that Bipartisanship is Possible -- even when it doesn't work.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

Beto would have said he was glad he didn't have hundreds of kids...

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

fyi:

Hey swooning liberals: Republicans want a “clean bill” to make birth control OTC because it would mean *insurance companies don’t have to cover it* and we know this because this was *literally the bill they already tried to pass once before* https://t.co/hvDJf7smEY

— August J. Pollak (@AugustJPollak) June 12, 2019

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 June 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link

Oh for sure. We should mention (and k3vin would be in a position to explain) that Obamacare requires contraception as a preventative service. No?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link

trump in 2017 weakened the contraceptive mandate, letting insurers with supposed religious objections absain. I am honestly not sure what the law would be if birth control were made OTC -- generally insurances do not cover OTC products. I assume this is why talk of a "clean" bill gives health policy people pause

k3vin k., Thursday, 13 June 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

yeah I'm not buying at all that there are political points to be gained in the TX electorate by bipartisanship, much less teamimg up with this year's Satan, of all ppl

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 13 June 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link

only for Chuck Todd types

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link

AOC has proven sharp, or at least has a sharp staff. I'm sure she won't fall into a Cruz trap. The glory of Ted Cruz is that he's such a transparently meretricious and silly man; he fools no one.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

well except for that one lady seventeen times

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 13 June 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

AOC used 'begging the question' in an improper fashion the other day; this is the only flaw i've noticed so far

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 June 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link

hee hee

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 13 June 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link

Fox News' bullshit with her is so ham-handed yet their viewership is so fucking brain-dead that I guess it should count as being subversive. This rant brought on by reading a headline article about her on the site and immediately noticing that they painstakingly recreate every single ellipsis, "you know," repetition, and stumble in her speech when they quote her, which afaik they don't do for anyone else, obviously not for the Big Wet Prez. god, they're so pathetic.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 17 June 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link


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