Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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Harmony Hall piano sounds like The Charlatans’ “Just When You’re Thinking Things Over”.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Stranger is straight fleetwood mac to me

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

same

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

Isn't the Harmony Hall the same samba-like piano that has been on a bunch of songs since Sympathy for the Devil?

Frederik B, Thursday, 9 May 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

it reminds me of screamadelica

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 May 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

Stranger is def Fleetwood Mac, and the overall sonics of the album owe more than a little to Lindsey Buckingham.

otm brad. not the piano per se, but harmony hall also reminds me quite a bit of touch of grey, prob because they're in the same key.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 May 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

Now with not only Danielle but the whole Haim !
https://youtu.be/Sub9jldNejc

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

only one listen in - the album opens with a great run up until "Married in a Gold Rush", after which it's more spotty. many of these songs seem surprisingly straightforward, without the knottiness that their previous albums had (I guess as Ezra has talked about), and I wonder if it will hold up to repeated listens because of that. but it was an enjoyable first listen certainly

Vinnie, Friday, 10 May 2019 07:15 (four years ago) link

and yes that piano on HH sounds like "Sympathy for the Devil", "Just When You're Thinking Things Over", "Freedom '90", and "Loaded" because all those songs basically use the same piano pattern

Vinnie, Friday, 10 May 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

Stranger is complete Fleetwood Mac. Seems weird to be hidden so far at the back, absolutely love the sax in it.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 10 May 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link

The arrangement of Jerusalem, New York, Berlin makes me excited for the live arrangements of the shorter songs... but I'm a bit iffy on Ezra's voice in most of the live clips I've seen so far.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 10 May 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

they've been doing a version of big blue that's 5 minutes and a version of 2021 that's approaching 7 lol

ufo, Friday, 10 May 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

but I'm a bit iffy on Ezra's voice in most of the live clips I've seen so far.

yes, I thought the same thing. It's very weak/borderline off.
And someone mentioned their rhythm section upthread and it's also pretty weak in these live clips. The songs never really take off (which is a shame with 2 drummers !).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link

Anyway, after a week of listening to this a lot, I think my top 5 would be :
HH
This Life
Gold rush
Flower Moon
Jerusalem

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

yes, I thought the same thing. It's very weak/borderline off.
And someone mentioned their rhythm section upthread and it's also pretty weak in these live clips. The songs never really take off (which is a shame with 2 drummers !).

― AlXTC from Paris, F

Wow. To my ears he's never sounded clearer and stronger than in that "Jerusalem, New York, Berlin" clip.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

The songs never really take off (which is a shame with 2 drummers !).

― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, May 10, 2019 3:58 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they really are embracing 80s Grateful Dead!

Eheh, that kind of sets with gazillion guys on stage (2 drummers ! 3 keyboards ! 12 guitarists ! 1 triangle !) remind me of 80s/90s superstars extravaganza lame performances by people like Phil Collins, McCartney, Sting, etc...

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Maybe Ezra is ready for a headband on stage...
oh wait !

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/94/a5/dc/94a5dc66e53835babe343bcc922bebde--ezra-koenig-vampire-weekend.jpg

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

Wow. To my ears he's never sounded clearer and stronger than in that "Jerusalem, New York, Berlin" clip.

eh. I don't know it sounds very thin and shaky to me, not exactly in key.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

I mean in pitch !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

I thought of the Expanded Heads and it works beautifully.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

He’s never been a great live singer tbh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

I saw them once circa Contra and thought they were not a great live band. (Though I also was not a fan in general, so that didn't help.) But I love the large band in that Kimmel clip and the way they expand the song at the end. Would totally go see that.

For me, whatever constitutes VW on this album and tour is way more interesting than previous incarnations. But since I didn't really like them before, it doesn't surprise me that some people who did don't like this version.

Or Fallon clip, I mean. Get my Jimmys mixed up.

Fascinating. I've seen them twice and they were tight as hell, especially performing the Contra material when I expected horrors.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

saw them headline a festival a couple years after MVOTC and I thought they were surprisingly well-suited to the moment. helps that they have so many tunes.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

they've been doing a version of big blue that's 5 minutes and a version of 2021 that's approaching 7 lol

― ufo, Friday, May 10, 2019 4:33 AM (seventeen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck me up

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 May 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

Shout out to Ezra in the headband. Hope we get a Walk of Life cover soon.

triggercut, Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link

fuck me up

― k3vin k.


I read this to the tune of “Take Me Out” by Franz Ferdinand

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 11 May 2019 04:56 (four years ago) link

those fallon performances rule

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 May 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

I'm never entirely convinced about the whole band as a live band. I think there was an element of them leaving a lot to Rostam and because they had a "no noodling" rule the arrangements were very tight and dependent on sequenced stuff I think it stifles the feel of a live band.

I really dig those new arrangements and I do think the mix could be somewhat to blame on the Fallon ones, but This Life just doesn't seem to have the same swing as the recording.

I've only ever seen them in a festival setting — and seems like that's the only place I'll ever see them at this rate — but it definitely work at that size where everything's a bit smushier sonically.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 11 May 2019 06:34 (four years ago) link

Jokerman ! Great cover.

https://youtu.be/89w8npePkVc

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 11 May 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link

Re: « stranger » being a FM song, otm.
I can almost hear Buckingham !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link

headbands, dang, this is getting to be War on Drugs for post-grads

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 May 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Fascinating. I've seen them twice and they were tight as hell, especially performing the Contra material when I expected horrors.

If you put an “up” in front of tight, that would tally with my experience. What I got from it was a lot of energy but not much motion, if that makes sense. An engine revving in neutral.

i love this band

flopson, Saturday, 11 May 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

i know i shouldn’t care but i don’t care for this little piece of writerly flair in mike powell’s review

Now we have Father of the Bride—a looser, broader album than Modern Vampires, the great sigh after a long holding of breath. There are still moments of conflict, but in general, you get the sense the band is just relieved to have run the gauntlet of their existential doubts and come out relatively unscathed, grateful to be here. A glass of wine? Why not. Make it white, and if you’ve got it, a little ice.

flopson, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

i also disagree with the characterization of modern vampires as anxious and haunted. it sounds incredibly calm and self-assured to me, slightly detached. it’s cool that ppl can hear such different things in it tho :) listening ‘hannah hunt’ feels like an entire movie

flopson, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

curious if scottpgwp has come around to this yet. i felt bad for him and his gf reading that post upthread lol. i love nearly all of the album now. no idea if it’s their worst (maybe bottom 2 would be this and contra?) it has their worst songs, but also many of their best, and i love the way ezras songwriting has matured, anyways i can’t even remotely rank their albums just love them all so much

flopson, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

really good writing alfred

flopson, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

It's their worst, but I like it too.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

thanks!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

I've re-listened to all their records over the past week and while I really like this one, it's probably my least favorite. it's also their most sprawling and weird, so maybe this will be their wowee zowee and it'll end up being my favorite.

modern vampires > contra > VW > father of the bride

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

I tried going back and listening to the earlier ones to see if my appreciation of this one would make me like them more, but no such luck. They still seem airless, itchy and precious to me. I like a few individual tracks on each but can't tolerate them in toto, whereas I've had the new one on repeat all week. So ... yvwmmv.

now that I've had a couple more listens to digest this album, atm I'd put them Contra < VW = FOTB < MVOTC. several highlights, and it's cool to have a sprawling album where the quality is this high. "Sympathy" is the only track that I can't get into

"Bambina" would have been high on my Under 2-minutes ballot had it been released when we did that poll

Vinnie, Sunday, 12 May 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link

you get the sense the band is just relieved to have run the gauntlet of their existential doubts and come out relatively unscathed, grateful to be here.

This is a.... weird take on an album that has "Harmony Hall" on it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 12 May 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

after much deliberation, i've decided i like 'rich man'. that is all.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Sunday, 12 May 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

you get the sense the band is just relieved to have run the gauntlet of their existential doubts and come out relatively unscathed, grateful to be here.

This is a.... weird take on an album that has "Harmony Hall" on it

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:07 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but all the existential dread is so artfully woven in with the whole headbands and tevas lolz that i think this really is what a lot of people get out of it, and want out of it, sighing about how the world -- or, a world, certainly not everyone's world -- is fucked, over an iced white wine. they really do foreground the easy-breezy aspect of their lives both in their art and its accoutrements, so for people to have that as their prime source of enjoyment for VW doesn't seem very surprising

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Sunday, 12 May 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link


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