charly bliss: guppy

this is really bizarre to me, i guess we’re not hearing the same record!

When I listen to Guppy I hear a young band cramming a ton of interesting ideas into their songs. However for me the listening experience is a bit tiring at times. Young Enough is less fatiguing on my ears. Course I’m old so ymmv.

just one song but “over you” doesn’t strike me as a distinct mood from guppy at all

like i don’t mean to split hairs this much but this album is a same-band-with-new-tricks situation imo and there’s v little to complain about bc the new tricks are so well integrated, plus there are plenty of guppy-style bangers

this is otm ^

it's more dynamic than guppy, less densely hooky (but still hooky), moodier and a little less one-note (although that one note on guppy was as good as it gets).

they've basically followed up an incredible debut by doing something that's really hard: make a second record that is still "them" but also incorporates some new ideas, shows a little range/ambition and points them in a direction going forward.

it's impressive! does it all add up to "better than guppy"? time will tell (but that is an insanely high bar, btw)

("under you" and "hard to believe" rule)

... is "bleach" in 6/4? i love it deeply

the way eva's voice ascends and descends according to the synth melody is wonderful, it's like "scare u" x1000

This is fucking brilliant

I feel like if you loved "Guppy" because it was a great pop-punk album then this isn't the album for you but if you loved it because of the great lyrics and hooks and wanted to see them go bigger, bolder and more confident, then this is everything you could want from them

IT’S GONNA BREAK MY HEART TO SEE IT BLOWN TO BITS

alfred would like this record. alfred to thread

guppy is possibly the best power pop album ive ever heard but young enough is just pretty good

you were still just a kid
you’re a beautiful boy
crushing cigarettes just to prove a point

^^ my fav part of the title track rn

"under you" feels like a weak spot strengthened by its placement but otherwise i think i already like young enough (even) more than guppy, what a perfect progression of songs... one that cldn't fit the soft combustibility of something like "glitter", so i'm just glad we have both albums

i do wish it wasn't so in-the-red production-wise

you were still just a kid
you’re a beautiful boy
crushing cigarettes just to prove a point

^^ my fav part of the title track rn

― american bradass (BradNelson)

Yeah, I've had this in my head a lot recently. I think this might be their best song.

People make some OTT claims for Guppy considering its a pretty great piece of 90s nostalgia and that's about it, but it clearly has a fizz that this one lacks.

The production does the new one no favours, blowing the sound up like this makes everything feel that little bit emptier.

Blown To Bits is terrific though.

Guppy really was as good as this sort of thing gets for me, a step above all the 90s bands they're drawing so heavily from

oh my god y’all this album is better than guppy

i mean i shared y'all's reaction when i first heard "capacity" and "chatroom" but i hear that emptiness as space and atmosphere now, plus these songs are fucking great, i think their songwriting advanced considerably

How could I not adore an album whose sound world exists in the space between Hole’s “Awful”, Paramore’s “Daydreaming” and The Yeah Yeah Yeahs’ “Hysteric”?

The title track destroys me.

otm. also add, i think, some rilo kiley song that didn’t exist before this record (“camera”) and taylor swift’s “clean” (“hurt me”)

I need to step away from this album. Wasn't enthralled the first listen and it's been diminishing returns since. Hopefully I'll get something out of it when I revisit it but for now I'm firmly in the fragglerock camp.

oh my god y’all this album is better than guppy

But it so isnt.

I've been thinking a lot of Rilo Kiley when listening to this actually - lyrically the subject matter isnt too far removed from The Execution Of All Things on eg "Capacity", also you can kinda hear how both bands have singers who've come from a performing background and bring that precision of charisma into their performance

It also makes sense because people went off Rilo Kiley when they started realising their mainstream potential too, More Adventurous is the best RK album and also the album where they became more obviously ~refined

i mean i shared y'all's reaction when i first heard "capacity" and "chatroom" but i hear that emptiness as space and atmosphere now

yeah in hindsight "capacity" was a great intro to the album bc it in particular continually shades the space w various melodic elements & the reverberating percussive punctures; and like i feel like lesser bands wld've made the chorus of "chatroom" denser, but e.g. the way the guitar seems to shift from reflective shimmer in the chorus to center of accumulation in the bridge w/o changing tone is why it's so satisfying... if guppy feels gaseous young enough is fundamentally solid; the former is maybe more formally memorable but the addition of synths here definitely doesn't feel like just expansion, they illuminate the surfaces the songs glide across (such that the rhythmic steadiness is the point-- see the way the drums build up by switching back mid-bridge on "bleach", the friction at the whim of momentum-- & also why the great pacing is esp notable). idk i think it's really impressive how they're going for something so different while still being recognizably themselves, altho it also means "this is better than that" is a hard sell

the new album does make a couple songs on guppy feel a little aimless to me

(well a softer word than aimless... a little less aimful, in comparison)

this does the same thing the first album did: nice opening run of tracks, then gentle slump into mediocrity

it's decent music but no better imo. if you put the start of this album with the end of the beths album you'd have a decent 90s pop album

it seems insane to claim this is the best pop-rock/powerpop going but instead of providing loads of things i prefer i'll leave you all to it *shrug*

just provide like 3

speedy ortiz - foil deer for absolute starters

trust fund - bringing the backline
does mitski count? yes
sad13's solo album
mike krol?

pup!

p much all of those records have nothing to do with this one besides being superficially more complicated

the pup record’s songwriting isn’t this strong

lol i need to wait til i'm not tired before commenting ig

anyway the only comparison itt that might make me want to listen to something else instead is bc nothing touches taylor swift's best song

lol i was reaching a little for that comparison point. “hurt me” still sounds like a t. swift song though

Young Enough makes me madder every time I play it. This is the final time. Y'all enjoy, but if anyone says it's objectively better than Guppy I'm cursing your family.

I think this is probably a lot like how I felt about Last Splash vs Pod.

it’s objectively better than guppy

imagine being mad at this record

imagine being mad

I definitely do prefer Young Enough to Guppy already. It kind of reminds me of how I felt about the second Japanese Breakfast album (which ended up as my favourite album of 2017). Everything feels so much bolder, especially with how Michelle and Eva get more personal using the music to talk about recent traumatic experiences (Michelle losing her mum and Eva coming out of a terrible relationship). They're both very cathartic and moving records in that way. Even though they both have more polished production, the hooks and songwriting are still very much there and sound like a natural development of what made the debuts so strong. It's no surprise that they're buddies with Michelle directing the Capacity video.

Right now, Young Enough is my album of the year. I really didn't see that coming after the singles and my first couple of plays of the album.

Charly Bliss aren't very original as a band and probably never will be, but within the borders of the power pop/indie genre they are quite good at what they do.

Maybe the debut is better than the new one, maybe not. The differences aren't that big.It is (and will probably always be for this band) more or less more of the same thing.

one thing is for sure is there is music involved and you can definitely hear it with ears

On first listen, I'm kind of in love with it.

No idea if or when I'll prefer this to Guppy but so far loving the hooks, phonetically and otherwise. Shades of Joe Pernice at his "fell over ourselves all summer" peak.

the best love songs are about self-abnegation so tbh "Under You" totally rules