so the shooter(s) this time are misfits; seems like the first time people I'd otherwise stan for (car spraypainted with "fuck society", dyed hair, victims of bullying, etc) were perpetrators in quite some time.
― akm, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
i turned on the news right after my prev post it pissed me off and depressed me so much- i almost posted but i couldnt, its too hard. i know all the places they were shooting vids from. my kids say they are scared its just all too much. A close friend whose even MUCH nearer the site than i did the FB “let’s get help for sick ppl” shit with NOT ONE MENTION OF GUNS ISSUE and i nearly did a heaping shitpost on her feed. on my good friend who’s very smart and fully aware- so i dont know why she chose that disgusting pose but whatever. NB yes but this is not primarily a mental health issue imo.
fuck.
spouse is talking about moving, we’ve seen plenty.
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
i didn't realize that columbine, aurora, and yesterday's location were all so close together.
that is heartbreaking and awful
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
partner treated aurora victims. we’ve been here for all. Also this like 4 or 5 mi away, my daughter wants to go there tho not our reg HS: https://www-m.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
i hear “stop bullying and treat saddoes” and im like “how bout SADDOES ARE MY PPL AND BULLYING SUCKS BUT FUCK YOU FUCKER END GUNS END GUNS END GUNS!!!”
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
working from home and living one block from our kid's school, i often have the thought "how fast could i run there if i ever heard shooting?"
and again this is another incident that probably isn't nearly as big a deal as it should be; the third time in the past month there's been a shooting that could have been much, much more devastating except for some mitigating factors.
― omar little, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
Hell of a high bar. https://t.co/Lk9Jz8aL4g— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 12, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 May 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
eh we like to have the law ready for when its needed as opposed to always be writing it in real time, kind a thing
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 13 May 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
oh no
BREAKING: Police say 11 people killed in shooting at Virginia Beach municipal center; suspect is dead.— The Associated Press (@AP) May 31, 2019
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
VIRGINIA BEACH POLICE CHIEF JIM CERVERA:-11 dead- 6 injured, including officer -Suspect is dead. Suspected shooter believed to be a disgruntled employee. WATCH LIVE: https://t.co/OAeDAB0Ucn #VBActiveShooter— WAVY TV 10 (@WAVY_News) May 31, 2019
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
this is a fucking insane country
― omar little, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
the frightening fact for me is almost less the ones that have occurred but the fact that there are many being planned right now.
― omar little, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
At this point there is going to be a mass shooting happening in everyone's hometown, current town, alma mater, etc etc. This is my hometown; they love their guns.
― Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
I'd rather die in a mass shooting than starve to death in a climate-change-driven famine
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
Climate change driven famines lead to war and violence, so that will still probably get you first.
― Yerac, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
this is a fucking insane country― omar little, Friday, May 31, 2019 4:19 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― omar little, Friday, May 31, 2019 4:19 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what do you mean? you must not LOVE FREEDOM.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
disgruntled
who the fuck decided that this was the style choice here, its now the accepted descriptor in these circs, right?
the type of jarring use of language that can horrify even after the events themselves become accepted norm
― daenerys baker (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
xxp Yerac OTM
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
disgruntled ... who the fuck decided that this was the style choice here
News writers in general, but especially headline writers, opt for the clichéd descriptor for the simple reason that clichés are a lazy shorthand for what they want to say. it's the inverse of careful, considered and nuanced communication. more like emotive grunts and gestures, disguised as words. "disgruntled" now encapsulates "homicidally unbalanced person caught in a whirlpool of unreasoning rage" in one bite-sized, easily-assimilated stupidity.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 June 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link
Clichéd descriptors make sense when there is a flood of similar events, apparently with no limit on the horrors inflicted. But, yeah, it's a careless gloss on what happened.
Meanwhile, FUCK this overheating, miserable, heartless world. So much good, too much bad.
― Got the Human League in to Advise Me (FlappyPants), Saturday, 1 June 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
chris hayes did like 20 mins on fine non-details ("non" because they were mostly hypothetical inferences or possibilities) of this incident, i.e. not on "the topic of gun violence. i didn't listen to it because after like 3 minutes i a) couldn't imagine learning anything that is informative or useful b) wanted to beat the living shit out whoever is making that show who thinks 20 mins of that is anything good and c) couldn't deal. neither news nor commentary, just "this is fucking terrible can't you just FEEL THE AWFULNESS."
― Hunt3r, Saturday, 1 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
There's a sacrificial logic to it. Knowing that some people – always other people, by default – need to die for you to be able to take badass pics of yourself carrying heavy artillery in semi-military garb makes you feel like a big man. Life is serious because we must all die, and you understand that, unlike those libcuck Carebears who would also have us get rid of capital punishment altogether.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 1 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
― Hunt3r, Saturday, June 1, 2019 2:11 PM
actually, he has done episodes on gun violence and the history of Second Amendment interpretation.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
yup, i know, and i generally really like and respect his stuff. i was surprised he would do it like that. maybe part of my annoyance is my disappointment in his participation, which is a pretty immature reaction by me, i suppose.
― Hunt3r, Saturday, 1 June 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
his interview in maybe december with the author of the history and role of conflict and physical violence in Congress, on his podcast, was so great. the historian has been interviewed now elsewhere/everywhere, but i enjoyed his inquiries and angles the most by far. I still need to get that book....
― Hunt3r, Saturday, 1 June 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
nothing to see here, it doesn't count cuz they got him first
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/us/dallas-police-shooting/index.html
― omar little, Monday, 17 June 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
This photographer...:
That might actually be the DMN photographer. The angle lines up. So crazy if it is. pic.twitter.com/TwEru92KbH— Maleesa Smith (@MaleesaJS) June 17, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
you can see what looks like high caliber bullets spraying the bricks above and to the right of the crouching photographer.. that must have been fun!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
totally normal day in the USA
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
Totally normal.
There’s a lot to unpack… pic.twitter.com/JCPbA8U3mF— Ally Maynard (@missmayn) June 17, 2019
― ShariVari, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
the photo of him outside the courthouse is insane
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
He took some of the aftermath as well (NSFW):
This how a heavily armed man began a shooting at a federal courthouse in Dallas today, and this is how it ended. Dallas Morning News photographer Tom Fox captured the incident. https://t.co/d8sNQ5P6oo pic.twitter.com/bcf2dXqeJW— Star Tribune (@StarTribune) June 17, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
Is there really no end in sight for these?
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
I know how that sounds—naive—but really these seem like a kind of sick trend and like they should wind down like other epidemics. The fact they happen more and more is so sickening
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
It's America. Second amendement (1791! #sadlol). No end in sight.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
tough to disagree with this analysis
look at this fucking dork. hey dipshit, youre dead and everybody is digging through your posts and making fun of you. you didnt kill anybody and got domed by a security guard. it rules that you are dead pic.twitter.com/KU22QtPAY4— BAKOON (@BAKKOOONN) June 17, 2019
― Simon H., Monday, 17 June 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
idk, the "analysis" - calling him a 'disshit' and 'dork' - seems rather unhelpful and part of the problem? from this side of the ocean at least..
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
The authors of the US constitution had read their Machiavelli and watched the progress of the Revolutionary War. The Second Amendment made good sense at the time.
It would still make some modicum of sense today, if the NRA and weapons industry had not manipulated gun politics past the point of sense, into socially destructive nonsense, where we find ourselves today.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
xp dancing on almost anyone's grave is a bad look. this guy clearly needed some mental help and instead he got killed. it's sad when the best thing you can say about an ongoing national disaster is that at least only one person died and damnable when people post death-by-cops pics for likes
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
but yeah, everything about that picture is phenomenally depressing; the idiot was carrying a fucking sword for crissakes.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
He looks terrified in that picture, and moments later he was dead. But this is a far right wannabe massmurderer, don't sweat it. I'm sure Breivik was nervous as well.
― Frederik B, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
this ain't Nashville, this is Dallas
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
― Frederik B, Monday, June 17, 2019 11:49 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't get the analogy? Don't get what you're trying to say tbh
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
i'm gonna quit so i don't get trenchant or worked up about it but, regardless of what a clearly horrible person this guy was, I can't read anyone posting "lol u ded" on social media as anything more than a poisonous and soul-crushing statement of nihilism and a further expression of the problem.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
Completely agree.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
He was a fellow human and sufferer and all that, I guess, and it never feels right to gloat at someone’s death, whether it be one of these shooters or bin laden or whoevef. But I have to say, “mental help” seems like it could only be a partial solution for these people. There isn’t like one profile they all match, unfortunately. Doing this is a decision they’re making not an illness they have
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
again another incident that won't be as discussed as much as it should be, because the shooter fortunately failed. this case could also be held up as an example of why armed guards work (and frankly if everyone is gonna have an AR-15 may as well have armed guards to stop them...)
the "dipshit" insults aren't gonna work as a deterrent, none of the dozens of dudes presently plotting massacres think they'll go out in this manner.
― omar little, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
But yeah, mostly ulysses otm. I don’t know the proper attitude toward evil people but devaluing life never feels right to me
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
(he's not as far as I can tell carrying a sword, though I might have missed something?)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
Fuck, Treeship, I really don't know you like this... What would be a good solution for "these people" then?
Damn.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link