pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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This has probably already been done, but why are the Isley Brothers headlining the P4K festival?

Position Position, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

gotta get those R. Kelly songs in there somehow

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

lol

the thing about pfork fest compared to other festivals is that it's remained pretty small and accessible (hasn't moved off it's small-ish site on the west side in years) & as such legitimately serves a local audience. you'd be surprised by the number of ppl who live in chicago and show up to pfork fest w/o knowing that there's a music review site of the same name, or with only the vaguest idea, or have heard of the site but don't ever read it. further -- and this is just a hypothesis based on having attended the festival a few times incl the year r kelly played -- is that part of the legacy of pfork booking r kelly is that it opened the festival to an audience of local black residents, esp older black ppl who, again, broadly speaking likely have no idea what pitchfork.com is all about. i think you can see this reflected in recent bookings incl isely bros, chaka kahn, raphael saddiq etc.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

cuz funktimism!

maffew12, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

Whether they're lip-syncing at this point is irrelevant— the Isley Brothers will be a good party. That's what matters at these outdoor festivals.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

Chaka Khan was fucking great last year. No signs of slack. The Sunday-in-the-park crowd loved it and even the white people were, holy shit.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link

cosign on Chaka Khan absolutely *destroying* the Oakland Pride crowd almost ten years ago. never seen a more diverse, happy crowd just feeling ecstatic.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Looks like the Fork got all Sonic Youthed out overnight. I still don't understand the point of dishing out 9.8s.

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 May 2019 08:14 (five years ago) link

I skimmed the EJST&NS piece — it’s all “historical context,” and says very little about the music.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

Writing about music is hard.

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

there are all manner of guitars doing things that seemingly only Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo knew how to make them do. Buzz Bin-worthy single “Bull in the Heather” and “Skink” are Kim Gordon at her Kim Gordon-est

Lee and Thurston were doing Lee and Thurston stuff. Kim was being Kim. What more do you want? A sentence about Steve Shelley?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

uh I thought "Bull in the Heather" did make Buzz Bin

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

"Lee and Thurston were doing Lee and Thurston stuff. Kim was being Kim. What more do you want? A sentence about Steve Shelley?"

Ha ha ha ha

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link

steve shelley pounded his drums in trademark Steve Shelley-style

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link

Kinda weird to me that in the review of Washing Machine there’s no mention of the title track, while “Junkie’s Promise” and a song from Dirty each get heir own paragraph.

Also - The song is sung by bass player Kim Gordon, who actually really speaks more than sings

JoeStork, Thursday, 9 May 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

Washing Machine review is painful. The album’s middle section is hit and miss, though the same could likely be said for all alternative rock records made in the mid-’90s

...On the other hand, reading a review of a guitar album written in this tone of clueless faux-professorial unearned authority on pitchfork dot com in 2019 makes me kind of nostalgic tbh

One Eye Open, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

well i recognize some of the bylines from way back but how many of these reviewers are writing about records older than themselves

j., Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link

On the sequel to last year’s Eat My Pussy, the Chicago rapper’s songwriting is at times more brazen and at others more introspective.

this reads like satire

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

lol straight outta Fear of a Black Hat

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

The first thing I thought of when I saw that review was that "King PU$$Y Eater revolutionizes our perception of bodies and spaces with his hit single "Goop on Ya Grinch" [7.6]" tweet.

triggercut, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

I still don't understand the point of dishing out 9.8s.

Mathematical precision obv. Need more significant digits, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

There is something kind of admirable about sincerely believing that the different in quality between Sister and Daydream Nation can be rendered as '0.2'. (Tbf it should be the other way around.)

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

*the difference

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

.23, surely

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

Needs more π.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link

If you take a test and get one question wrong you get a 98. It’s possible to be nearly perfect but not perfect.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

Do you hear albums that way?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

X got one question wrong on ‘Los Angeles’ and they got a B- and a stern essay on their permanent record

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

Sister doesn't have Lee Ranaldo yelling "kick it!"

therefore, 9.8

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link

I don't know if it's a common thing but when I was an undergrad you couldn't get more than an A in the humanities at my university because they deemed it impossible to objectively determine how much an essay deserves past a certain point. I still think it makes sense.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link

we really need an additional decimal point here

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

They should really get someone who has never heard of Sonic Youth to blind review these things.

jmm, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link

the tricky part is finding someone who has never heard of Sonic Youth but is also qualified to write music reviews

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

qualified? qualified!? hey buddy don't get all conde nast on us

j., Friday, 10 May 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link

yeah... thanks...yeah, we're going to need employees who haven't obtained their SY qualification certificate to go ahead and move down into the basement by end of day, yeah, it's only temporary until the certificate program is completed and verified by HR, thanks...

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

Like a young person who is very interested in audio sensations from sound waves. Wish there was a name for that

Evan, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

"hipster"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

You could also hire a jazz/classical gatekeeper to do it. Chances are he (yes, he) has never knowingly heard Sonic Youth.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

Lol, Evan

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

that's a pretty cool concept, but if i'm honest with myself, the historical/cultural context is most of the reason i read those reviews. and some reviewer coming into it blind isn't gonna be able to offer anything on that front.

enochroot, Friday, 10 May 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

"Sonic Youth? But these guys are old. Must be some of that 90's 'irony.'"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link

Looks like there are a lot of SY reaction videos on YouTube. Whether they are good/qualified, idk.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 10 May 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna say this is a whole subgenre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bOxB41ZCbg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link

which leads to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ROT_o4q30

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link

and then hopefully kids react to motley crue reacting to kids reacting to motley crue next year

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link

i want to see kids reacting to the Shreds videos

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link

Watch Bob Saget Rate The Beach Boys With John Stamos, Indie Rock, and College

I never watch these, but kinda intrigued by this one... worth it?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 11 May 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Ok, turns out he has no idea what indie rock is, lol

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

relatable

rob, Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

has anything received a 9.9?

billstevejim, Saturday, 11 May 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link


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