Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Man. My older daughter just told me about this, and at this point I'm not sure I know what to tell her.

Damn. Good luck to you and your daughter.

thx- it’s weird i still know nothing beyond “my kids have contacts/friends,” i’ve not turned on the news.

the first i even heard of it was from a western slope buddy who called to ask if we were ok, and almost immed began the deluge of “perimeter secure transportation” advisory txts and emails.

so the shooter(s) this time are misfits; seems like the first time people I'd otherwise stan for (car spraypainted with "fuck society", dyed hair, victims of bullying, etc) were perpetrators in quite some time.

i turned on the news right after my prev post it pissed me off and depressed me so much- i almost posted but i couldnt, its too hard. i know all the places they were shooting vids from. my kids say they are scared its just all too much. A close friend whose even MUCH nearer the site than i did the FB “let’s get help for sick ppl” shit with NOT ONE MENTION OF GUNS ISSUE and i nearly did a heaping shitpost on her feed. on my good friend who’s very smart and fully aware- so i dont know why she chose that disgusting pose but whatever. NB yes but this is not primarily a mental health issue imo.

fuck.

spouse is talking about moving, we’ve seen plenty.

i didn't realize that columbine, aurora, and yesterday's location were all so close together.

that is heartbreaking and awful

partner treated aurora victims. we’ve been here for all. Also this like 4 or 5 mi away, my daughter wants to go there tho not our reg HS:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

i hear “stop bullying and treat saddoes” and im like “how bout SADDOES ARE MY PPL AND BULLYING SUCKS BUT FUCK YOU FUCKER END GUNS END GUNS END GUNS!!!”

working from home and living one block from our kid's school, i often have the thought "how fast could i run there if i ever heard shooting?"

and again this is another incident that probably isn't nearly as big a deal as it should be; the third time in the past month there's been a shooting that could have been much, much more devastating except for some mitigating factors.

Hell of a high bar. https://t.co/Lk9Jz8aL4g

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 12, 2019

eh we like to have the law ready for when its needed as opposed to always be writing it in real time, kind a thing

oh no

BREAKING: Police say 11 people killed in shooting at Virginia Beach municipal center; suspect is dead.

— The Associated Press (@AP) May 31, 2019

VIRGINIA BEACH POLICE CHIEF JIM CERVERA:
-11 dead
- 6 injured, including officer
-Suspect is dead. Suspected shooter believed to be a disgruntled employee.

WATCH LIVE: https://t.co/OAeDAB0Ucn #VBActiveShooter

— WAVY TV 10 (@WAVY_News) May 31, 2019

this is a fucking insane country

the frightening fact for me is almost less the ones that have occurred but the fact that there are many being planned right now.

At this point there is going to be a mass shooting happening in everyone's hometown, current town, alma mater, etc etc. This is my hometown; they love their guns.

I'd rather die in a mass shooting than starve to death in a climate-change-driven famine

Climate change driven famines lead to war and violence, so that will still probably get you first.

this is a fucking insane country

― omar little, Friday, May 31, 2019 4:19 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what do you mean? you must not LOVE FREEDOM.

disgruntled

who the fuck decided that this was the style choice here, its now the accepted descriptor in these circs, right?

the type of jarring use of language that can horrify even after the events themselves become accepted norm

xxp Yerac OTM

disgruntled ... who the fuck decided that this was the style choice here

News writers in general, but especially headline writers, opt for the clichéd descriptor for the simple reason that clichés are a lazy shorthand for what they want to say. it's the inverse of careful, considered and nuanced communication. more like emotive grunts and gestures, disguised as words. "disgruntled" now encapsulates "homicidally unbalanced person caught in a whirlpool of unreasoning rage" in one bite-sized, easily-assimilated stupidity.

Clichéd descriptors make sense when there is a flood of similar events, apparently with no limit on the horrors inflicted. But, yeah, it's a careless gloss on what happened.

Meanwhile, FUCK this overheating, miserable, heartless world. So much good, too much bad.

chris hayes did like 20 mins on fine non-details ("non" because they were mostly hypothetical inferences or possibilities) of this incident, i.e. not on "the topic of gun violence. i didn't listen to it because after like 3 minutes i a) couldn't imagine learning anything that is informative or useful b) wanted to beat the living shit out whoever is making that show who thinks 20 mins of that is anything good and c) couldn't deal. neither news nor commentary, just "this is fucking terrible can't you just FEEL THE AWFULNESS."

There's a sacrificial logic to it. Knowing that some people – always other people, by default – need to die for you to be able to take badass pics of yourself carrying heavy artillery in semi-military garb makes you feel like a big man. Life is serious because we must all die, and you understand that, unlike those libcuck Carebears who would also have us get rid of capital punishment altogether.

chris hayes did like 20 mins on fine non-details ("non" because they were mostly hypothetical inferences or possibilities) of this incident, i.e. not on "the topic of gun violence. i didn't listen to it because after like 3 minutes i a) couldn't imagine learning anything that is informative or useful b) wanted to beat the living shit out whoever is making that show who thinks 20 mins of that is anything good and c) couldn't deal. neither news nor commentary, just "this is fucking terrible can't you just FEEL THE AWFULNESS."

― Hunt3r, Saturday, June 1, 2019 2:11 PM

actually, he has done episodes on gun violence and the history of Second Amendment interpretation.

yup, i know, and i generally really like and respect his stuff. i was surprised he would do it like that. maybe part of my annoyance is my disappointment in his participation, which is a pretty immature reaction by me, i suppose.

his interview in maybe december with the author of the history and role of conflict and physical violence in Congress, on his podcast, was so great. the historian has been interviewed now elsewhere/everywhere, but i enjoyed his inquiries and angles the most by far. I still need to get that book....

nothing to see here, it doesn't count cuz they got him first

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/us/dallas-police-shooting/index.html

This photographer...:

That might actually be the DMN photographer. The angle lines up. So crazy if it is. pic.twitter.com/TwEru92KbH

— Maleesa Smith (@MaleesaJS) June 17, 2019

you can see what looks like high caliber bullets spraying the bricks above and to the right of the crouching photographer.. that must have been fun!

totally normal day in the USA

Totally normal.

There’s a lot to unpack… pic.twitter.com/JCPbA8U3mF

— Ally Maynard (@missmayn) June 17, 2019

the photo of him outside the courthouse is insane

He took some of the aftermath as well (NSFW):

This how a heavily armed man began a shooting at a federal courthouse in Dallas today, and this is how it ended. Dallas Morning News photographer Tom Fox captured the incident. https://t.co/d8sNQ5P6oo pic.twitter.com/bcf2dXqeJW

— Star Tribune (@StarTribune) June 17, 2019

Is there really no end in sight for these?

I know how that sounds—naive—but really these seem like a kind of sick trend and like they should wind down like other epidemics. The fact they happen more and more is so sickening

It's America. Second amendement (1791! #sadlol). No end in sight.

tough to disagree with this analysis

look at this fucking dork. hey dipshit, youre dead and everybody is digging through your posts and making fun of you. you didnt kill anybody and got domed by a security guard. it rules that you are dead pic.twitter.com/KU22QtPAY4

— BAKOON (@BAKKOOONN) June 17, 2019

idk, the "analysis" - calling him a 'disshit' and 'dork' - seems rather unhelpful and part of the problem? from this side of the ocean at least..

The authors of the US constitution had read their Machiavelli and watched the progress of the Revolutionary War. The Second Amendment made good sense at the time.

It would still make some modicum of sense today, if the NRA and weapons industry had not manipulated gun politics past the point of sense, into socially destructive nonsense, where we find ourselves today.

xp dancing on almost anyone's grave is a bad look. this guy clearly needed some mental help and instead he got killed. it's sad when the best thing you can say about an ongoing national disaster is that at least only one person died and damnable when people post death-by-cops pics for likes

but yeah, everything about that picture is phenomenally depressing; the idiot was carrying a fucking sword for crissakes.

He looks terrified in that picture, and moments later he was dead. But this is a far right wannabe massmurderer, don't sweat it. I'm sure Breivik was nervous as well.

this ain't Nashville, this is Dallas

He looks terrified in that picture, and moments later he was dead. But this is a far right wannabe massmurderer, don't sweat it. I'm sure Breivik was nervous as well.

― Frederik B, Monday, June 17, 2019 11:49 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get the analogy? Don't get what you're trying to say tbh

i'm gonna quit so i don't get trenchant or worked up about it but, regardless of what a clearly horrible person this guy was, I can't read anyone posting "lol u ded" on social media as anything more than a poisonous and soul-crushing statement of nihilism and a further expression of the problem.

Completely agree.

He was a fellow human and sufferer and all that, I guess, and it never feels right to gloat at someone’s death, whether it be one of these shooters or bin laden or whoevef. But I have to say, “mental help” seems like it could only be a partial solution for these people. There isn’t like one profile they all match, unfortunately. Doing this is a decision they’re making not an illness they have

again another incident that won't be as discussed as much as it should be, because the shooter fortunately failed. this case could also be held up as an example of why armed guards work (and frankly if everyone is gonna have an AR-15 may as well have armed guards to stop them...)

the "dipshit" insults aren't gonna work as a deterrent, none of the dozens of dudes presently plotting massacres think they'll go out in this manner.