the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

Man all four people who give any fucks about Avatar have gotta be STOKED.

lmao that Cameron is apparently shooting the 4 Avatar sequels (5 is penned in for 2027) concurrently, meaning even if the first one underperforms they'll still have 3 left to promote

I'm a little surprised that Disney hasn't pulled back on the reins with that impending disaster.

TBF, both titanic and avatar were hailed as an impending disaster and then become the biggest things in the history of movies so it's tough to bet against him until he loses
i also think he will lose this time btw

I reeeeeeeeally need to be convinced that Avatar 2-4 will be a disaster beyond Very Online people saying variations of "no one remembers this"

Disney World built a whole themed area for it, it's the second biggest-selling Blu Ray of all time after FROZEN and I haven't seen any evidence that America won't gladly slurp down every PG-13 fan service sequel save, like, "Wow, Solo only made 393 million dollars"

Also, it's been so long, I can see them re-releasing Avatar 1 in theaters

There's a whole Cirque du Soliel touring act about Avatar

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

following "the rider", i will be down for the choe zhao Eternals movie but boy am i having a hard time imagining how that will pan out

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

I love Disney so much and it bums me out that all the attention is going towards stuff I don't care about: Marvel movies/Star Wars/live action remakes.

Get me an immersive Arendelle with Ilsa's ice castle!

Ilsa's ice castle

sounds pretty dark

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:57 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not so. Feige has already telegraphed their intention to continue milking that particular cash cow.

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

― mh, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 2:00 PM (forty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean the Pirates of the Carribbean franchise made $4.5 billion, so that can write off a few of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnlMvollAkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32Law7K-b8

IIRC Disney approached Cameron about building an Avatar attraction because they had lost out on Harry Potter several years prior, and at the time Avatar was only two years old. Had they waited another year, the Lucasfilm acquisition would have taken place and they might have gone straight for a Star Wars attraction.

I don't think Avatar 2-4 (or 5?) will have the same kind of success as the first one, but I doubt they are going to lose money.

I mean, nobody seems to like those Transformers movies either and they made a ton of money. Online discourse is really only a tiny fraction of public opinion.

"I remember how excited I was the first time my dad took me to see an Avatar movie, I'm so happy to be able to share that special moment with my own children!"

Also, like, outside of a theme park attraction and Blu-Ray sales, what's its place in popular culture? Do people still talk about Avatar a lot, or learn Navi or whatever? It may have made money but it seems to have left no cultural footprint whatsoever otherwise.

My son's introduction to avatar was the avatar ride in Disney World. I could totally see him wanting to see these movies just because of that.

its weird to realize that there was a movie as big as avatar that didnt get a sequel for over 12 years. hard to imagine that ever happening again in the current climate. thats even longer than the time between revenge of the sith and force awakens

The ride is undeniably awesome. However, the lead-in to the ride was a ten-minute video loosely recapping the plot of Avatar because who the fuck remembers what happened in Avatar.

NB, I saw Avatar for the first time earlier this year.

Have not seen avatar yet, do not think that will change in this lifetime.

I didn't think it would, either. The things we do for love.

Also, like, outside of a theme park attraction and Blu-Ray sales, what's its place in popular culture? Do people still talk about Avatar a lot, or learn Navi or whatever? It may have made money but it seems to have left no cultural footprint whatsoever otherwise.

The number of people who spent hundreds of dollars visiting the Avatar theme park in 2018 is roughly the same as the number of US viewers who watched the most recent ep of game of thrones, seems like a massive cultural footprint tbh, just not talked about on twitter as much

there were those folks who got depressed that they couldn't live on navi

oh pandora even

Avatar Land was pretty cool and has some nice environmental design but I don't see it being a huge draw for terribly long, particularly once Star Wars Land opens. Like the Navi restaurant was kind of a turdburger.

Not so. Feige has already telegraphed their intention to continue milking that particular cash cow.

ok so there is no upside

C'mon, don't pretend you aren't excited for that live-action Home on the Range remake.

I forgot the existence of a Haunted Mansion movie but my friend who would watch horrible movies and then fast forward through to show me the "highlights" showed me part of Country Bears

completely stock script, with Christopher Walken as the human foil

When clearly he should've been playing all of the bears instead.

I didn't think it would, either. The things we do for love.

Enchanted Tiki Room movie or gtfo

I also strongly want them to bring back Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, unchanged, and then make a movie about it

xxpost Oh, it just means I once took my once-strident stance against watching Avatar and threw it in the gutter like so much dishwater just because my gf asked me to, no big.

I also strongly want them to bring back Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, unchanged, and then make a movie about it

there have already been several films but Disney did not manage to steal the IP as effectively as they did with Milne

the Python / Coogan one is p dece iirc

lol I looked it up and it got dumped in NYC porn theaters at theatrical US release, then Disney picked it up for video and retitled it after their theme park ride

welp

this is otm. When I tell friends I still get Netflix DVDs through the mail they react with astonishment, as if I told them I've decided to give up electricity. This weekend somebody saw a red envelope on my coffee table, pointed to it and literally said "Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!"

lol otm. It's not students in front of whom I have to explain my attachment to Netfix: it's so-called adults over thirty who don't get that you can't stream every fucking thing.

hmmm there was a 2006 Wind In The Willows by a future Dr Who director, starring two future Dr Who companions and Bob Hoskins

nah, I'll be right, ta

then Disney picked it up for video and retitled it after their theme park ride

their secret of survival in a v nasty world iirc

I was more referring to a movie based on the ride, which I believe they decommissioned. It was nearly original to Disney World, and was flat cartoon images on the walls and a car that followed a twisty track through a relatively tiny building

Not a wild ride

(Wind in the Willows book is great)

Avatar was the first movie to be a huge hit in China. I believe the sequels make their money back internationally, even if they don't do so well in the US.

Christopher Robin: The Movie: The Ride: Avatar Edition

you don virtual reality goggles to experience life as a frustrated workaholic middle-aged man. your childhood hallucination, Pooh, returns to take you in a journey to the world of Avatar

in related news

NEWS: Viacom and CBS boards agree to merge, according to an executive with direct knowledge of the deal. Details to follow.

— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) August 13, 2019

Does Viacom have one good and popular current show outside of South Park and Spongebob?

i don't live in the US anymore but... those are "current" shows??

LOL

I would think the appeal is in the brands themselves and not individual pieces of content

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Viacom

They are still coming out with new seasons! South Park is still funny! Spongebob may have jumped the shark after Hillenburg left, but I haven't really been paying attention to new 'Bobs

lol
actually feel sorry for Nightmare Alley

The irony is that Del Toro's Blade 2 was one of the first-wave Marvel adaptations to get critical acclaim as well as box office. Same year as Raimi's first Spider-man, iirc. So in a round about way, Disney owes Del Toro.

True shit. Just got an email from my theater asking if I wanted to cancel my tickets for NIGHTMARE ALLEY because they cancelled every other show to free up the screen for more Spider-Man showings. pic.twitter.com/tpdfD7VjqG

— Reyna Cervantes (@Jfcdoomblade) December 19, 2021

sad lol

what's truly demoralizing here is that even being the second film adaptation of preexisting literary source material isn't unoriginal enough to go up against the second multiple-spider-men movie of the past three years

1 2 MCU

i got an email last week alerting me that A NEW DEVICE HAS BEEN USED TO LOGIN TO YOUR DISNEY ACCOUNT, which i completely assumed was a phishing email because i have never created a "disney account" and my old espn account was (is?) tied to a different email address. then i looked at it and realized it was sent because i logged in to the national geographic website to read an article on my phone, so due to a magazine subscription i've had since the '90s, i guess i now have a disney account. i mean, i slightly prefer natl geo content being controlled by the mouse rather than rupert murdoch, but it would be nice if neither did.