Rolling Maleness and Masculinity Discussion Thread

article reads like sponsored content tbh

This has been discussed to death already, but the plastic surgery angle is new to me:

https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/incel-plastic-surgery.html

looks of horrifying quotes in there but this one is maybe the most alarming to me

Eppley’s not sure exactly why a patient would want testicles of dinosaur-egg size. But that’s true of many of his procedures, which he tends to design in response to patients’ requests. If his practice had a slogan, it would be “We don’t care why you want it,’’ he tells me. “And I suspect patients seek me out because they know I won’t ask them. I don’t see it as my job to cast a judgment.”

This one is touchingly jejune:

He also wants to be famous: “I became obsessed with a lot of models around my age who had that real chiseled bone structure,” he recalls. There was one in particular — Colton Haynes from Teen Wolf — who spoke in a monotone voice that reminded Matthew a lot of his own. Haynes never went to college, while Matthew has a master’s in engineering. “These people have all these followers on Instagram,” Matthew says, “and you’re like, Why can’t I have all these followers?”

The paragraph that follows also features a remarkably anticlimactic dénouement:

Matthew has striking blue eyes with pale lashes, and, thanks to the procedures, a wide jaw and jutting chin. “I’m definitely more happy with the way I look now,” he tells me, although his life is far from transformed. He lives with his parents and works at Best Buy, an arrangement he originally conceived to help save up for surgery. He’s now planning new procedures, including one to fix what he describes as a bump on the tip of his nose, although I don’t notice it.

“I hope everything goes well and this will be a real change,” he wrote on the forum. “But where do I need to begin? I need women, lots of women, to make up for my miserable life. I need a new social circle, a new identity, a new life. I’ve been thinking of leaving my country. I want to live in hotels in tropical countries and live a playboy life there, only fucking hot blonde European girls. I have the money, I have the freedom. I need to go and leave this goddamn rotten place, need to leave everything behind, my old life.”

“I think you are expecting too much from just some jaw implants,” replied another user.

another user otm

Nutcases.

The second time we speak on the phone, Truth4lie tells me he has just been released from the hospital after attempting suicide. His last jaw-implant revision was still monstrously swollen, and he was so anxious about it that death seemed easier than looking at his face in the mirror.

He swallowed pills, then read on Google that his final hours would be slow and painful. So he called an ambulance. When he woke up in the hospital, it felt like being reborn, joyous, akin to the dopamine rush he always felt after being operated on.

“The prospect of a better surgery result is keeping me alive,” he tells me.

keanu/

i need women

lots of women

/keanu

it's the saddest story jg ballard never wrote

contrapoints obliquely addressed this whole phenomenon in her latest video

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/inside-the-community-of-men-who-fuck-themselves

Genuinely informative.

look forward to reading that later. it'll be a treat after my day is done.

treat yourself, as it were

the lack of judgement in that is refreshing

i mean, look, i brought the judgement with me, def. but it not being there was yes refreshing.

yes, good job men for bravely refusing to judge other men, save that shit for women doing normal things

What?

is that a joke web site?

I didn't check their other publications, are there articles mocking women among them?

dear lord

def need a men-only thread for reading articles about fucking themselves

add it to the list

/theres-only-one-reliable-way-to-make-your-loads-bigger

I never thought I'd see a more perfect Cosmo analog for men but there it is

What an interesting website for the Dollar Shave Club. I just learned that the FDA only recently approved an anal sex condom. I live for tidbits like that.

the FFNGGHH ptesumably also involved

I think I just need to stop using the Internet for a year or two

today i learned about something called "scalp micropigmentation" (here is a GIS result https://www.google.com/search?q=scalp+micropigmentation&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiR7JvFjMHiAhVHnKwKHYnzDNwQ_AUIDigB&biw=2211&bih=1113) in which you can literally get millions of tiny dots tattooed on your bald head and apparently it is meant for people who want the look of a non-bald person who shaved their head rather than a balding person who shaved their head. you are still bald with this look, mind you - it is stubble tattoos not fake hear. you still have a bald head, but like, it's not a bald head it's a shaved head man. jesus fucking christ

*fake hair

men, always with the cosmetic trickery

This Mel website is informative.

tbf i was fairly judgemental upthread. i can try and place myself more outside the experiences of others if it helps.

contrapoints obliquely addressed this whole phenomenon in her latest video

"It must needs be remarked that the skull of the Chad ..."

"The one who showed up at the loft door with a box of diskettes from the Finn was a soft-voiced boy called Angelo. His face was a simple graft grown on collagen and shark-cartilage polysaccharides, smooth and hideous. It was one of the nastiest pieces of elective surgery Case had ever seen. When Angelo smiled, revealing the razor-sharp canines of some large animal, Case was actually relieved. Toothbud transplants. He'd seen that before.

`You can't let the little pricks generation-gap you,' Molly said."

hahaha, I thought of that too!

This Mel website is informative.

The fact that their current banner/logo says "MEL Beta" is probably doing them more harm than good, though.

I thought it was a joke.

Ugh, yeah I forced myself to ignore the beta in that context since the guys who sincerely try to use it to categorize their whateverness are trash anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/jul/28/looking-for-mr-t-the-politicisation-of-testosterone-and-toxic-masuclinity

I pity the fool, indeed.

yesterday marks the 4th time I saw a male friend/family member drinking a White Claw who immediately got kinda defensive about it

thought White Claw was pretty firmly positioned as the cool dude alcopop

only a matter of time before bros start icing bros with White Claw.

Seems like a lot of dudes operate under the misapprehension that if they're spotted using a product that doesn't reek of motor oil or have an X-TREME font splayed across its packaging that they'll spontaneously turn into an actual woman.

Man if it were that easy

white claw tastes fucking disgusting though

It says 'hard seltzer' on the can, your balls are golden.

true, nominal hardness in a product is a get-out-of-jail-free card

I never thought it was particularly marketed to men

at least not in the way MIKES HARD LEMONADE was

don't think it has much to do with the packaging (I think most of these people would be embarrassed to drink anything with a skull on it) but rather the perception that if you're drinking something alcoholic in a can it's gotta be beer

it's definitely marketed to men, they just seeded the Internet with memes instead of making obnoxious ads

did they really though

i'd totally buy that they paid the ain't no laws when you're drinkin claws guy, singlehandedly giving millions of dudebros permission to semi ironically drink a Claw