HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

it was a bit weird that the crossbow bolt had enough velocity to slice through a ship

xpost

― FernandoHierro, Monday, May 6, 2019 2:35 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rods from god imho

It looked like Dany had 20 Unsulllied left in the KL stand-off, unless the rest were hiding behind the shrubbery.

either arya or jamie is going to kill cersie, the only question to me is which one. maybe arya will change her face to look like Jamie and do it mid-coitus.

Missandrei was really cute I'm sorry she lost her head.

Spoilers!

Just kidding

Killing Missanedei felt slightly pointless given they could have just shot Dany with the gigantic crossbows while she was standing there completely unshielded.

I was bothered that they could converse in that last scene considering how far they were from each other. Had to be more than 50 feet, and Tyrion et al didn't even have to shout.

I kept waiting for “fetchez la vache!”

either arya or jamie is going to kill cersie, the only question to me is which one. maybe arya will change her face to look like Jamie and do it mid-coitus.

― akm, Monday, May 6, 2019 9:58 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reverse mantis style

Arya kills Cersei's unborn baby in the womb, takes its face, then kills Cersei from the inside out like a chestburster.

i'm hoping for a peasants' revolt

here's that game of groceries thing that bugged me if anyone cares
http://i.imgur.com/DUuDQFX.png

devil's advocate but if arya is going to kill someone with green eyes, couldn't that be cersei OR dany?

it was a bit weird that the crossbow bolt had enough velocity to slice through a ship

I thought this episode was perfectly fine until the diabolus ex machina double whammy, where first Dany and the dragons don't see those massive ships approaching them despite flying high in the air, and then Euron is lucky enough that the one person he manages to capture from the sinking ships was the one who's death would anger Dany the most. I get it that they're trying to justify her wanting to burn King's Landing, but that's such an artificial way of getting there. Of course this show has always been known for unexpected character deaths, but in the previous seasons they usually resulted from people making bad but understandable decisions, not from characters being incredibly stupid or incredibly lucky.

Also the ships only appeared to have crossbows on the front; seemed pretty vulnerable from a flying dragon approaching from the rear. Can't believe there'd be bad strategy afoot

but that's such an artificial way of getting there

The last two or three seasons in a nutshell.

I'm not actually that bothered about them getting up and down Westeros quickly - maybe they were at sea for a few days and they already established it would take a couple of weeks for Jon to get down by horse. But the speed at which the news of Missandei's kidnapping got back to Winterfell was insane, I know they have ravens but I've had emails that have taken longer than that.

This felt like the last we'll see of a few characters - Tormund, Gendry, Sam and maybe Bronn all seemed to have their storylines wrapped up. Probably wise to thin the cast out as much as possible at this stage and focus on the characters who really matter.

Obviously the crossbow stuff was ridiculous as was Dany screwfacing throughout but I did like the brutal simplicity with which the second dragon was taken down.

This episode reminded me why I stopped watching in the first place!

Glad that Varys gets to do some machinations now though. Love that guy.

I enjoyed the shot of Varys gasping for air on the beach which reminded me of my favourite mad book theory!
https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/1gvbr7/all_spoilerstheory_the_best_theory_about_varys_i/

despite the fact he's an orientalist mishmash played by a white guy, varys is my fav character, but he mostly stands in for the courtly atmosphere and ritual that the show doesn't really seem to bother with/get.

xpost First few comments are pretty funny.

I chuckled when Varys brought up "the Realm" since I don't think we've actually seen a regular Weaterosi citizen since like s5 or something

Yeah, and Tyrion mentioned the riots back in season 2, which I'd thought they'd rather sweep under the carpet since the citizens have basically stopped existing for a while. He said the people of King's Landing would rise up if they could, and I had to think 'How?' How has Cersei been keeping them down better than could be done in season 2, after she's lost her armies again and again and again?

Well, presumably the citizens of King's Landing are a bit wary of going against a Queen who set up a massive explosion just to get rid of a few opponents, which must've resulted in hundreds of dead civilians too.

Yeah, governments terror bombing their own people always leads to perfect calm and order. No secret plots of any kind.

it's too bad they haven't even suggested it cause a popular uprising where all these idiots get murdered by nameless commoners would be a hilarious ending

Barristan Selmy was murdered like that, though

Took me a minute to even remember who he was tbh

Presumably won't be seeing Dario again but you'd think he'd have rustled up reinforcements for Dany at times like this. Essos is probably back in the hands of slavers anyway.

my daughter is binge watching from the beginning so I've watched a few with her. the plot and dialogue really are so much sharper in the early couple of seasons. I am enjoying the big popcorn spectacle of dragons and zombies and big crossbows but I miss Tywin's hardnosed dictatorship, I miss Margaery's arched eyebrow, I miss Joffery being a prick.

the populist revolt against the crown came when the sparrows took over king's landing for a short time, but cersei outmaneuvered them by blowing them all to hell.

we need half an episode to explain the current political situation among the commoners in King's Landing

you just know that Cersei spun that entire thing as "they mysteriously blew themselves up shortly after they humiliated me. terrible tragedy."

eh, just tell them the angry, jealous god of the Faith of the Seven decided to punish the false-worshipers with cleansing green fire, people always believe that kind of shit

green fire can't melt steel beams, Debra

i just realized dany could've stayed across the sea and rule over a continent of incredible beauty and power that needed her intervention to end slavery etc and instead she decided to go to westeros to rule over a bunch of dead assholes.

She was sure they'd be greeted as liberators

Have we gotten any hints at how Cersei is doing as queen? I mean, maybe she's doing a great job and no one gives her any credit. Her illegitimacy is primarily implied to be because she's been mean to the protagonists, right?

(I mean, other than mass murdering religious fanatics and other ruling class schemers...)

maybe building the giant crossbow spurred economic growth and provided good jobs to working class citizens of Kings Landing

giant crossbow factory an economic, social boon to king's landing society

also we don't see how well the Golden Company mercenaries are interacting with the locals -- they could be a boon for the local economy, or they could be doing what mercenaries tend to do which is start fights and rape

A boon for the King's Landing sex industry is my guess.

otoh there could be massive public works projects she has implemented that vastly improve the quality of life for the poorest citizens

xp - i bet gambling industry is also doing well due to the presence of the guest workers

or she could have rounded up all the children in Flea Bottom of unknown parentage and put them in cages somewhere outside the city ... i feel like these are things missing from the current season

Cersei strikes me as more of a shock doctrine devotee than a Keynesian tbh.

calling the poorest neighbourhood in the city "flea bottom" is a little bit on the nose

more like on the butt