LINE OF DUTY: cop-on-cop action TV procedural that demands analysis

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maybe four dots is an if.... reference

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

This whole season felt like a penultimate episode does in a normal season- slightly unsatisfying calm before the storm of the final episode.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

I wanted to go back and check this myself, but someone already did of course... Dot's dying declaration, different the two times we've seen it - notice Kate's line "first letter" vs "first two letters".

https://streamable.com/2dofm

brain (krakow), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

yeah I thought I was going mad with that
why change that when they're trying to prove it WAS Hastings but showing that it's not H-A

Did Kate just flub the line and no-one noticed?

See also: Lindsay Denton's perfectly calm turning off the main road during the ambush vs shocked crazed car driving

kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

That is confusing. Doubtless H doctored the footage to add a misleading second letter, wouldn't be surprised if there's a video editing software suite recovered from Ted's laptop. Which will also have had incriminating blobs of someone's frozen ejaculate planted on it.

Which actions on Corbett's part are explained by his having made a deal with Gill?

mick signals, Monday, 6 May 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

genuine hatred of bent coppers I guess, and 'licence' to act on it, and specifying Ted.
also perhaps why the ocg called the top police contact 'h'

kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

that streamable link is actually making me cross now. I want someone to question Jed M about it. 'document one in your folder' style.

kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

wait does it mean H? or that there are 4 bent senior coppers? what?? this is as much of a stretch as dumbledore's "logic" for how many horcruxes there must be out there and what they likely are. just makes it up.

i will admit i yelped when they started reading gill bigs her rights. and again when the lift doors are closing on ted and kate & steve are like "just doing our job, sir" and he replies "no, you did much more than that" GET IN

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 May 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link

xpost I'm on Jed's side for this one! I think it's a cool move to go back and secretly shift a goalpost within one of the foundational texts of the show.

mick signals, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

this interview with JM answers a few niggles
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a27332344/line-of-duty-season-5-episode-6-explained-jed-mercurio/

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

xp it's total gaslighting and tampering with evidence!

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

it's pronounced hercurio

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link

That interview is really interesting/maddening! It's like bad Dungeon Mastering - keeping all the backstory to a campaign in your head, so it always makes internal sense, but meanwhile your players are all "???".

Also not really helped by the Michael Winner-esque direction for some of this season.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

sadly michelle of eastenders is to blame for the direction :(

i like to think of jed totally tampering with the evidence of our own earlier eyes as his bold stance against the fan-service hegemony in modern pop culture

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

I can't fathom how they'd be that slack at continuity in re-filming such a crucial scene, so it has to be deliberate. Was the file doctored within Line Of Duty world and this will feature in S6, or is it Jed M tampering with evidence for his own crappy storyline needs like kinder says?

Another question I have is with the 'definately' thing... we were led to believe that the content of the encrypted conversations couldn't be accessed by the police, just the 'metadata', yet during Carmichael's interview with Ted he states that he had previously studied H's responses on the OCG's encrypted chat and hence was able to reproduce the spelling error for authenticity when he took the role of H. Carmichael accepted this explanation. Did I miss something?

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

Carmichael accepted this explanation

i think this is overstating carmichael's response tbh, we know she wanted to pursue the case against ted but this was impatiently overruled

s6 shd feature a character like buffy's sister dawn -- who is suddenly just magically there as part of AC12 and everyone accepts them and forgets to remember that they weren't there in an earlier series and fails to realise they are THE KEY

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

line of doody

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

xp I guess she could have planned to come back to it (the "definately" thing) later, true. Still bugs me though.

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

yes I'm (again) confused by that. they seized Lisa's computer so had chat logs at that point, but I thought before that they hadn't.

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link

surely a criminal psychologist or someone would've briefed ted in advance and would be able to confirm whether ted's mispelling was definately intentional or not

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

in conclusion, that's actually just how jed mercurio spells definitely

― mark s, Monday, April 22, 2019 12:32 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5538890/Definitely-is-most-commonly-misspelt-word.html

^^^but in the box ted shd have referred to this statistic, citing the discipline of FORENSIC ORTHOGRAPHY to explain why spelling it correctly wd actually be more suspicious

mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

Speaking of intentional mistakes, DI Brandyce is no fool and that wasn't a pointless scene inserted to confuse the viewer: she originally indicated that the search was under the legal power of section 32, even though the correct legal power was section 18(5), as a way of sending a coded message.

mick signals, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

If only it had been Sections 10 and 66.

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

would've been one in the eye for H

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

groan

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

fellas

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

lol just put on a cbeebies bedtime story on the iplayer and the first two are Anna Maxwell Martin and Stephen Graham

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

'poor old Edward, sad and all alone' says John Corbett

kinder, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

this season should have been told from the perspective of AC-3, we have a couple of episodes of laddering + bantz and then they start to investigate *ANOTHER ANTI-CORRUPTION SQUAD*

seandalai, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

There's only one thing I care about...

chap, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

...catching bent coppers!

chap, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Don't know where else to put this, but since it's impossible to search for: has there been any talk on these boards about the 'Blood' tv series starring Adrian Dunbar? 3/4th in and it's pretty wicked. And evil.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 September 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

I watched it when it was on a few months ago. It was unpleasant.

ailsa, Monday, 16 September 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Unpleasant, that's the word. Seeing Cat being psychologically tortured (regardless of whether it turns out to be true or not) is almost getting too much. Of course the last episode I watched was her abandoning Barry just when he needed her most and then he did... Well, you know (to avoid spoilers). I'm too far in to quit now - and the acting overall is really great - but it's bordering on unbearable.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

started this series last night :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

so jealous

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

i’m only 3 eps in and it fairly whips along! def onboard

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

omg VG where ya been?

kinder, Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link

hello double glazed GLAREd windows

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

midway through s2
The Denton misdirect is impressive!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 05:57 (four years ago) link

this show is bananas and i love it
finished s2, now rolling thru s3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link

lil stevie arnott gets about - i literally snorted at his “happy anniversary” flowers opening of s3 like get the fuck outta here anniversary of what lol

i love the aggro interviews so much
Dryden in s2 playing gentlemanly like querying what the definition of sexual relations and then growling “aye i shagged her”

is there a window push in s3, i hope so, quite enjoy those

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

Don't think so but you do get to see Keeley Hawes doing a great Denton snarl

kinder, Monday, 13 January 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

yes! watching her rn
she is GOAT i love this character & her acting
she’s wonderfully shaded ... like there’s some nutso Annie Wilkes in there for sure but also cold logic and loneliness and strategy and she plays it amazingly well

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link

omg u guys i just finished s4 and I need to lie the fuck down.... what a ride.
Thandie was amazing, obv.

BUT Hulu doesnt have S5 yet so I may have to go “find” it

why?

because the only thing I care about anymore is CATCHING BENT COPPERS

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link

oh and shoutout to the makeup effects team for making a barf-tastic MRSA infection ye gods

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 05:40 (four years ago) link

ONE OF US
ONE OF US

warning, s5 is a bit ... mm... not up to scratch at the end.

kinder, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

End of S5 is, yeah. I watched it with my LoD posse, all entirely stoked for the madness, and we all just went "uh?" and drank a lot and went "uh?" some more. There's some good stuff in the rest of the series though. Anna Maxwell Martin is awes.

ailsa, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

just learned that S5 will never be on Hulu bc AcornTV got exclusive rights to S5 - apparently it switched to BBC etc RaGH

so i will definitely be “finding” it and watching soon

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

S5 has some good pay-offs to really, really old plot threads, but yeah the ending was a sore disappointment. The biggest crime(no pun intended) is that it wastes what should've been one of the crowning interview scenes of the entire series.

I'm hoping S6 goes back to the usual AC12 vs Bent Bastard chess game format which is when the show is at it's best.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link


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