HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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xp Lots of the other stuff just seemed to disintegrate when the Night King died.
THought some things were just being held together by magic, though they may have been more corpses animated by magic than held together by so yeah you might expect some mess to be left.
Did wonder if they actually needed to burn all the corpses if the Night King could no longer reanimate them. Or if several different cultures' dealing with death rituals had been simplified to the same thing for the occasion.

the iron fleet, the spanish inquisition of Game of Thrones

"I can't believe Jaime changed his mind" OK then don't! This seems like one of the more low effort misdirections in the show. On the spectrum of enticing misleading cliffhangers I rate it slightly above "we'll be right back after this commercial break". Is it because they were attempting to reinforce it during the inside look? I wasn't buying it for a second!

^ Not a direct quote from anyone here, just arguing with that consensus.

"I was having a really hard time believing they cleaned up the million wight corpses that would have been surrounding the entire castle from the night or 2 before"

I assumed they disintegrated. I don't know why I assumed that but isn't that what happens to them?

― akm, Monday, May 6, 2019 1:49 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They sort of disintegrated to mere bones but not to dust. Citing the giant wight collapsing after it got stabbed by the Mormont girl.

Lots of the other stuff just seemed to disintegrate when the Night King died.

like the plot

xp - still would entail a bunch of cleaning, ya, i think they missed an opportunity there ...

why does jon hate his giant magic dog?

How metal would it have looked

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with all the money this show has I'm baffled that they still can't make the dragons look even remotely convincing when close up.

xxp heavy-handed symbolism of him recognizing that he's a dragon man (Targaryen) and not a magic dog man (Stark)

sad that he had to explain to his not-stepsisters that he's a dragon man

he didn't even pet him though!

:(

maybe there's extended heavy symbolism in Dany not being able to protect his dragon when he's not there

why does jon hate his giant magic dog?

The entire show is an anti CGI metaphor that's been casting away or casting out all its magical computer generated prime movers (dragons, wolves, giants, ice zombies, and so on) post-haste until all that is left will be a bunch of people standing in a room, talking. It will be downright Brechtian. And then at the end they'll turn to the camera, sip a Starbucks latte, and reveal who shot JR. And then the camera will pan to the throne, and sitting on it will be a giant dragon egg with a face drawn on it.

I've been kind of an apologist but damn this one was bad.

all this coming down to basically "Dany is a dumbass" is deflating

glad we had one more Varys/Tyrion conversation for the road, gonna miss those two

Tyrion also seems to be a massive idiot now, Varys only slightly less so for not seeing this mess coming

you can't really write a character smarter than you are. just saying.

But you can make a bunch of other characters talk about how smart that character is

I got the point they were trying to make about her motivations, but her actual presence in the episode seems like her stance is more based on a kneejerk emotional response to Jon's heritage and Cersei's obstinance and not the deeper flaw in her motivations that Tyrion/Varys understand

Her freeing of the slaves, building a coalition, and compassion for the other Dothraki widows seems to come from having motivations worthy of a just ruler. On the other hand, all of those things were also very pragmatic and her need for vengeance on those who wronged her family and make an incontestable claim for the throne, where she'll have complete power, are still #1 with a hard stop

The entire conversation about Jon concealing his parentage came off as emotional but the motivation is completely pragmatic and was definitely an ultimatum. He made his choice, so unless we get a complete turn in her character, the whole Jon/Danerys thing is off

lol goole

for all of the complaints about the Jon/Dany dynamic not really working with the actors, the Danerys/Sansa dynamic seems to work exactly as conceived

every time someone told Sansa that Dany "Is Your Quueen!" I knew she was thinking, yeah yeah, and Joffrey was my king.

There needs to be a Family Feud with the cast of GOT and the cast of Lost competing in character to show which is dumbest, including a mute Mountain and the Smoke Monster.

check out this past SNL

Will that Bran guy on Family Fued ever lose?

I c+p'd that typo from the thread title btw

wait...no i didn't

*explodes*

The entire conversation about Jon concealing his parentage came off as emotional but the motivation is completely pragmatic and was definitely an ultimatum. He made his choice, so unless we get a complete turn in her character, the whole Jon/Danerys thing is off

― mh, Monday, May 6, 2019 11:37 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, totes, dany's already over it imo

dany is def monomaniacal and will either end up getting killed by arya or something at the end - or else taking over and being a mad queen

another problematic stance for Elizabeth Warren to apologize for

Tyrion also seems to be a massive idiot now, Varys only slightly less so for not seeing this mess coming

― Simon H., Monday, May 6, 2019 2:29 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Remember when the two of them knew a sooper seekrit way in and out of the Red Keep? That's OK, neither do they!!

lol

they literally just used it in season 7 wtf is going on

she and grey worm were the only remaining people of color on the show, and wouldn't it be nice for once to not sacrifice PoC for the greater good of white people?

Agree this is fucked up, but not surprising coming from the same showrunners who built Dany up as the ultimate white saviour fantasy, killed off an entire Dothraki horde in one episode, and really wanted to make a Confederate TV show.

And while we're at it, there were totally other ways for them to push Dany into her Mad Queen arc e.g. kept Jorah for one more episode and let Cersei kill him instead. It would have made more sense too since Jorah did betray King's Landing for Dany.

Greyworm and Missandei were boring af but so are Sam and Gilly, and not only did those two live, they get to have another damn baby.

dany has ALWAYS been a dumbass character, even (especially!) when she's triumphant and crowdsurfing on freed slaves. would have much preferred a storyline with two dead dwagons and she gets lopped by the mountain. roz otm

push Dany into her Mad Queen arc

Is it really an arc if it takes place over the course of the final two episodes of a 7 season show?

Mad Queen finger roll

I would say it started the moment she got to Winterfell and didn't immediately have Northerners falling head over heels in love with her. xpost

Is it really an arc if it takes place over the course of the final two episodes of a 7 season show?

A generous reading would be that the arc began when she crucified the slave masters in Meereen two or three seasons ago, but I dunno if the writers had that in mind when writing those episodes? They do claim they've known Arya would kill the Night King since season 4 or something, so maybe they have had some long-term plan for Daenerys too, though obviously that could've been better executed. At least Arya's arc leading to slaying the NK made a lot of sense in retrospect.

What if Emilia Clarke's acting has always been an intentional choice, and the reason she makes Dany seem so uncharismatic and pouty is because that's how she really is? So the only ones who would find her to be a good ruler are the slaves she freed, and everyone on Westeros is totally unimpressed with her, which leads to her going crazy?

given clarke's career trajectory, you may be reading a bit much into her choices.
anyways, dany's "arc" of being chekhov's mad gun being left around for the moment when her fiery (GET IT?!?!?!) blood overflows into mass dragon slaughter, to either be reigned in or let loose as befits the endgame, has been telegraphed for years. it's just very poorly and patronizingly framed by these circumstances. fuck's sake, they stuffed misandry in a fridge!

So the only ones who would find her to be a good ruler are the slaves she freed

and (until recently) a ton of actual characters!

Speaking of which, I have to say I haven't really missed Daario Naharis but it is kinda weird that he's not around for all the action

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hey stuffed misandry in a fridge!

lol

given clarke's career trajectory, you may be reading a bit much into her choices.

Was aiming for sarcasm there, in case it wasn't clear.

Clarke was perfectly fine in the Han Solo movie, she just doesn't seem to be cut to play the sort of regal and authorative character Daenerys is supposed to be, it's hard to see why Tyrion et al would be so impressed by her.

I've been watching the show from the beginning the last week (just got to the red wedding) while simultaneously watching the new episodes (yes, a very dumb tv watching tactic) and dany is pretty monomaniacal from (almost) the very beginning. basically as soon as the dothraki start respecting her as queen she's on a one way trip to the iron throne.

that's a pretty good watching tactic, imo. you start to notice the references and echos back to earlier encounters a lot more easily if you're watching the episodes in parallel

that is, when they remember to do those things

woman has destiny to rule and consistently takes steps to accomplish this = monomaniacal
man does the same = hero

counterpoint: Stannis