Tricky being in there makes a lot of sense.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 5 May 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link
hi i'm old and all the "who is billie eilish? WHY is billie eilish?" writing somehow made me not getting around to listening to her music for a while and.. i really like it!
also otm:have people confused about why teens like angsty music ever been teens
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:22 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mh, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
Hi, I'm redeeming my late pass here because I just encountered "Bury a Friend" and went "holy shit wow"
I get the Lorde comparison due to a similarity in their vocal quality (that was my first thought when I heard the song) but, as I hear more, the comparison starts falling apart because the overall approaches are so different.
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
I could have made the exact same post about two weeks ago!
― mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
I'm listening to the album for the first time and it's much less aggro/gothy than I was expecting on the whole from the marketing. It's really nicely mixed, big dynamic range.
― Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
re: the "My Strange Addiction" - "Bury A Friend" - "Ilomilo" section Brad referenced upthread, I keep thinking of a slightly different world where Selena Gomez chose to go this direction and how she would probably kill at these songs.
I also keep thinking about how I hear these strong similarities in her work to other artists but how they cohere into a vision that is 100% singular and fascinating. I don't get why anyone would react so negatively towards this.
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
yeah other than "Wish You Were Gay" and the Office samples I don't get the hate either, unless it's just kneejerk anti-zoomer-ism or something
― Simon H., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
the only thing i don't particularly care for here is "8"
wonderful debut
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
'When The Party's Over' reminds me of FKA Twigs. And I get all the comparisons (Lorde, Gomez et all) but it's to her advantage that she's not easily pinpointed. I think this is a wonderful album all in all, with the aforementioned one or two misses.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
I'm imagining a new combo single in the vein of "Ladies' Night"/"Bang Bang"/"Lady Marmalade" only it's Selena Gomez, Billie Eilish, Demi Lovato, and Lorde doing "Temple of Love"— DJP (@djperry1973) June 10, 2019
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link
Her music sounds really good when you hear it randomly played during a normal day.
― Yerac, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
Would stream xp
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
i think the lorde thing was less a direct sonic comparison and more of a cultural/contextual thing? i could be wrong tho
i prob posted this upthread but i thought what is cool about this album is how despite her narrative as a gen z groundbreaker or w/e it fits into a sort of cross genre continuum of bold female driven pop
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
A good RS comparison was to PJ Harvey's To Bring You My Love timeframe.
― Yerac, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
I've cooled on the album since April. About half the album is too quiet or her melodies aren't strong enough to compensate for the deliberately malnourished arrangements. The only one of the slow ones I like is the mandolin track that reminds me of Portishead's "Deep Water."
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
the "bad guy" memes that were floating around twitter for a bit recently were v cute/funny
in case you don't listen to the radio (wouldn't blame you), that song is now officially Blowing Up there, her first proper cross-metric hit
― dyl, Monday, 10 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
I realized there is an entire continuum of people who are younger than I am, missed a lot of the late 90s reference points we've cycled through (and might not be up on contemporary peers) who have tween children listening to Billie Eilish
lol
― mh, Monday, 10 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
I listened to this in full and thought it was Bad™. But also, it’s Not Meant for Me®.
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
I don't understand this "intentionality" nonsense. I guess I shouldn't watch movies, read novels, or listen to music since 98 percent of their products weren't written for or by gay Latino men.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
If you don't like the music, say so. But don't pull the this-music-is-for-adolescent-girls garbage.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
I think ultimately shattering the doors to other genres of music that have traditionally been closed off by listeners themselves (let alone the media by implicit or explicit bias in coverage and attitude) is an immeasurable positive for society (let alone for one’s own personal taste). Which is not a judgment call on those who dislike certain albums or artists but it’s an encouragement to free the mind.
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
bad guy is really a cool song
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
as is "when the party's over." the artistry is undeniable. the mood of anhedonia is still something i think needs unpacking by some kind of really good music critic though. it's the thing about this album that makes it sound new.
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link
The turn that "listen before I go" takes toward the end is magnificent.
― Turangalila, Monday, 17 June 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
But don't pull the this-music-is-for-adolescent-girls garbage.
You're totally missing (or intentionally) misrepresenting what I meant by that comment, Alfred. And if you think this board needs MORE of ppl's chest-puffing takes on music that doesn't fit their taste profile... well, you're not gonna get it from me.
― Consider the coconut (morrisp), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
(Also, and obviously, "adolescent girls" aren't any more a uniform taste bloc than dudes in their 40s; why would you assume I'm painting with such a broad brush?)
― Consider the coconut (morrisp), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
LOVED her Radio 1 Big Weekend performance, and the reaction it got from her fans. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p078s4n8
― mike t-diva, Monday, 17 June 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
my sister and niece are going to see her at Radio City Music Hall this week
I've heard one song on WFMU
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
Her music seriously suffers from diminishing returns, she’s huge this year but I feel like once removed from the hype these collection of songs will quickly fade away from the collective consciousness. But then, I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link
Her public image is more carefully constructed than the album itself which throws different things to see what sticks but without a discerning personality behind it. I assume a follow-up is in the works and it’ll be more interesting to see where she goes from here imho.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link
My daughters adore her and are not into "dispose thoughtfully after use" as a cultural aesthetic, thanks.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:34 (four years ago) link
album's only grown on me, the way the second half gradually tightens into dissipation feels carefully constructed, idk
― lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
I don't get the diminishing returns, maybe she will fade away but I like her more after listening for a few months
― Dan S, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link
according to the eight year old daughter of some friends, Taylor Swift is "old" and also "bad" and Billie Eilish is both cool and good.
― omar little, Thursday, June 13, 2019
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
― Dan S, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
Eight year old daughter of some friends otm.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link
I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.
Except that the majority of her clearly rapt Radio 1 Big Weekend audience knew every word of every song, and sang back so loudly that she almost became their backing vocalist. It was extraordinary.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
her personality comes through clearly and coherently on this record even though there’s a lot of a stylistic variation, that is part of why it’s so good
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link
The fact that you can hear them goofing off between songs is a big part of the appeal of the album...
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
the album is pretty uneven imo but overall p fantastic. the production palette is so refreshing. and of course the songwriting is killer
― flopson, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Hard not to rlly like an album that feels like it draws equally from Fiona Apple and Claude von Stroke.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:39 (four years ago) link
The Lex described her as Fiona Trapple the other day and now I can never unhear that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link
Lol that’s great
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link
Ofcourse there's already a dj out there with that exact name
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
I really didn't think she would have staying power but the more and more I listen, the more I like the songs. Her entire aesthetic for right now is so great too.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
But then, I reckon the use once and throw away fits what her main audience look for in music consumption.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 02:29 (yesterday) Permalink
Not to pile on, lol, but this is exactly the opposite of true, like perfectly 180 degrees wrong
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
Probably been said elsewhere, but "Bad Guy" is such a total AMSR trip.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
I've always liked the idea of music that has real tactile quality, and she certainly does that here, although I think her bag of tricks is a bit limited.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
I gave this album another try last week and only made it halfway through. I believe that I may never get it.
― ☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 23 June 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
haha u r old
― j., Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link