A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

i'm annoyed that ps4 shooters don't have gyro fine tune as an option, it's such an improvement over twin stick once you learn how to use it

Oh, it was great for Nintendo Doom. The trade off is at the graphics and performance of Nintendo Doom is not on par with the PS4.

I've also been thinking about Wolfenstein II, which makes the choice a bit more stark: get it on Switch and get gyro controls but compromised graphics and performance (which were still pretty good on Switch Doom), or get it on PS4, which is bundled with Doom at a price slightly lower than Wolfenstein II alone on Switch, with better graphics and performance but no gyro aim. Clearly most people playing these games on PS4 are using the controllers/twin sticks, right? Or does everyone have some sort of mouse and keyboard adapter? Pretty soon I'll dive into those Uncharted games, and Last of Us - I assume there's twin sticks aiming and shooting in those as well?

stick isn't really that bad in 3rd person shooters. i haven't played the naughty dog ones but i assume they have generous aim assist since they're made for the masses

i played the last one with lock-on because I'm a basic bitch but also because aiming with a stick sucks

lock on is just the most generous aim assist

i feel like it's more realistic for me to drop these fools like a cold-blooded badass than to be drunkenly waving my hi-tech weaponry around like a senile gorilla

so you see, it's for the good of the game

Playing The Last of Us as a shooter is going to lead to bad times.

You all are talking about lock-on/auto-aim (are they the same thing?) on ... Last of Us? Iirc there is some sort of aim-assist in Doom but tbh after the time I've spent with it on Switch using gyro it's just so fast and chaotic I can't imagine any sort of "assist" helping, short of lowering the difficulty level. Even with gyro - which is a huge help - I never thought it was particularly easy, unless set as such.

yeah the naughty dog games arent really shooters like doom is hence lock on

I'm talking about the last Uncharted game fwiw, the one with the ladies in India

Uncharted: The Ladies in India

Anybody heard or know anything about A Plague Tale?

it's got rats aplenty

This guy likes it a lot: https://youtu.be/A_Ycx1qsJiA

The gameplay looks a bit sparse, graphics aren't smooth, but I've heard that the story is good, which has me modestly interested too.

I don't like the brown on brown on brown on brown colour palette.

Looks pretty intense! Seems like a future cult classic, and since so many on PS4 at least are still talking about Days Gone, I can totally see the price dropping on this (or it going on sale) quickly.

no one is talking about days gone

They are on forums, afaict. One of the big complaints about it is that a lot of the reviews were fair to middling, but players have been enjoying it more than promised. That has sort of been the same reaction to fair to middling reviews of Rage 2: if writers said Days Gone wasn't great but players really enjoyed it, and now writers are saying the same thing about Rage 2, does that mean players will actually enjoy Rage 2? It's as if the AAA games get all the attention, but standards are so high that they get perhaps unfairly weighted criticism. Meanwhile, games like Plague maybe go more under the radar.

death stranding releasing this november

So much for TLOU2 this year.

I and I think just about everybody knows nothing about Death Stranding. However, I do not want to look at that actor's face for the entire game.

I and I think just about everybody knows nothing about Death Stranding. However, I do not want to look at that actor's face for the entire game.

― Rasta in Chicago

Jah know what I mean.

I think you'll mostly be looking at the back of his head

Kojima still remarkably bad at naming women characters

lol @
HEARTMAN
Nicolas Winding-Refn

and DIE-HARDMAN is all-time top tier, obviously

yup, i'm in for this nonsense.

guilty gear tier name

INTERNET HEARTMAN is up for grabs.

It's kinda amazing, given that the PS5 is right around the corner, how many heavy hitters are, well, hitting in the next year or so. Death Stranding, Doom Eternal, Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Cyberpunk 2077, the (other) new From Software game (Norse mythology? Great Rune?) ...

End of a systems life tends to be its most fertile time, historically.

I always assumed a new system arrives with a bunch of must-buy exclusives.

If by a bunch you meet two or three, sure

I wonder what surprises they have in store, then. The PS5 is being predicted for 2020, right? I wonder what the initial anchor will be. Grand Theft Auto?

the PS4's big launch exclusives were Knack and Killzone Shadow Fall, to give you an idea of what to expect

if only there were a thread title to remind us of the feebleness of most launch lineups

no console gen is truly over until atlus decides it is, anyway

The new one is apparently backwards compatible right? I don't know enough about this stuff, what are the features that usually differentiate one generation from the next, as opposed to,say, the PlayStation versus the PlayStation Pro?

(lol knack)

just much improved specs for fancier looking games, plus it sounds like they're going with a SSD this time around and using 'no loading times' as their big marketing angle. which to be honest is a stronger sell than graphics at this point.

don't buy a new console at launch though if you have the previous one, it's never work it until like 2 years in when the third parties finally stop releasing cross-gen

worth*

Don’t forget the inevitable really pretty puzzle game that comes out with a console launch!

But yes, launch titles are almost inevitably graphical and audio showcases and maybe a title or two where they get them to release a tweaked version that’s also on the last gen.

probably ghost of tsushima will be crossgen as the eye candy game

I always love the new puzzle game :)

I think Nintendo is the only console that ever has decent launch titles, and that's 100% because of Mario. What I've read is that the transition to new hardware is pretty challenging, though you'd think that bigger developers have the resources to wrangle those challenges (of course they also have much different financial concerns than smaller developers, like they can't dick around trying to figure out how to work with a new architecture when they have to hit quarterly milestones).

The new one is apparently backwards compatible right? I don't know enough about this stuff, what are the features that usually differentiate one generation from the next, as opposed to,say, the PlayStation versus the PlayStation Pro?

According to the Wired article, it's supposed to be backwards compatible, yes. One big difference between the intergenerational vs intragenerational is that new-gen consoles run on different hardware architectures, which, without getting into systems weeds, is kind of like a difference in spoken languages and the things that such languages facilitate (Romance languages are a lot easier to rhyme in, fr'instance).

What I've read is that the transition to new hardware is pretty challenging, though you'd think that bigger developers have the resources to wrangle those challenges

I’m sure financial viability plays a big part here too, probably bigger than the difficulty issues. You don’t want your big budget next gen game to arrive too early, because you’ll end up selling to a much smaller potential market, bound to be better to wait until the new platform is properly established. “Writing for new consoles is hard” is often just the excuse that gets rolled out for this, I think.

Especially this time round, current console architectures are very similar to each other and as I understand it aren’t set to change fundamentally through this changeover.

Some* people liked the launch Zelda this time.

*all and then eventually Josh

I’m taking about third party devs. Obviously priorities are different for first parties.