Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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she said in an interview they haven't made plans for that yet but if they happen to be in the same place at the same time id think it's pretty possible

ufo, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

this is good, the production is astonishing, but... boring complaint, but it’s too long. i might change my mind as i get more familiar with it but the effect of all these vampire weekendy vampire weekend songs stacked on top of each other for an hour is... monotonous. i also find it very strange that i don’t like any of the danielle haim songs

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link

I was ready to defend them all at this time yesterday; now their facility irritates me.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link

and weirdly this monotonous pacing makes the extreme stylistic diversions (“sympathy”) exhausting

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link

Echoing all the Flower Moon love

Gonna take a yeeeeeeeeear

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link

I’ve been bracing myself for this album for years now. I love all of their other records and have been expecting this one to be a letdown—Rostam leaving, the long delay, the announcement that it would be a double, “Harmony Hall” which I disliked, the album art... After “Harmony Hall” I purposefully avoided the other singles just so I could try to engage with the album on its own terms.

Anyway, I’m on my first play through now. This is my “yucky listen” - just trying to hold off any opinions and do my best to shake off all the bias and expectations as much as I can. Maybe that’s working as I was really gritting my teeth from the first track through “This Life” but it’s starting to even out a little now.

[edit but here comes another Haim duet I’m only fond of]

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

On the other hand my wife does not enjoy suffering like I do. She just texted me after one listen: “they’re dead to me.”

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

how does the pacing compare to MVOTC? it's only 15 minutes longer, but with shorter & breezier songs I imagine it might flow better? I love MVOTC but it has a lot of relatively long songs, and some dry ones bookending it. haven't had a chance to listen to FOTB, honestly forgot it came out today, but looking forward to it.

flappy bird, Friday, 3 May 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

It doesn't feel exhausting because the melodies and harmonies are intricate enough to remember and savor at two minute. Sometimes they're too bright ("We Belong Together").

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

Also: Koenig claiming writing or co-writing credit on every track. Guess VW has given up the fiction of a democracy.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

were the first three records credited to the band? I always assumed it was a Lennon/McCartney situation

flappy bird, Friday, 3 May 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

I had to go and get two tyres sorted and all I've been humming to myself - the residue of listening to this all morning - is Paul Young's version of Love of the Common People and that bastard Jona Lewie Christmas song.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

were the first three records credited to the band? I always assumed it was a Lennon/McCartney situation

― flappy bird, Friday, May 3, 2019

The band credited with music, Koenig with lyrics on first two.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

“stranger” is absolutely amazing

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

if there is a Pazz & Jop poll this year, this album will win it

alpine static, Friday, 3 May 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

I spent a minute of 'Hold You Know' thinking 'ugh, country', and then Ezra said 'Alright' and it sounded like he just straight up hit the sample button. Incredible moment. Throughout the whole album, the arrangements are absolutely amazing, on another level of everything they've ever done - and they've always been great at arrangements. But I feel like this time it's like the entire world is at the tip of Ezra's finger, and he just summons whatever he wants when he needs something to underscore what he is saying. It's a crazy feeling.

Frederik B, Friday, 3 May 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

The only song I kinda don't get at all is My Mistake, and even there I think it's quite funny the way it leads into Sympathy.

Frederik B, Friday, 3 May 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

Some cool behind the scene stuff in Rostam’s story https://instagram.com/matsor?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=3dixolg6z7np

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 3 May 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

It's not really country, it's "country," or "Kacey Musgraves"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

haha "Harmony Hall" to swipe from Happy Mondays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CQLAhNlbfQ

I have never been the biggest fan -- I like some songs and I've always thought Ezra's a talented dude, but the band as a whole kind of put me off. But this one is clicking for me -- a little mellower, I guess, plus it's not as rhythmically grating as I've found them before. (They're number one on my list of "Bands I would like better with a good drummer.") But if it's a VW album that people who aren't VW fans like, then maybe VW fans won't dig it as much.

XP...which was taken from John Congos...

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

Um, the rhythms has probably always been my favourite part of VW? Though admittedly less on MVOTC

Frederik B, Friday, 3 May 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link

xpost surely you mean john Kongos

also tipsy otm i think i like this but i listened to the others this week and i didn't really like this band before

strong john prine/iris dement vibe on d.haim duets

tonga, Friday, 3 May 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

yah, in a good way. I would be down for a whole Ezra/Danielle album.

strong john prine/iris dement vibe on d.haim duets

― tonga,

Yeah, it sounds like they're aiming for "In Spite of Ourselves" on "We Belong Together."

I wish it'd been a Rickie Lee Jones cover.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link

Um, the rhythms has probably always been my favourite part of VW? Though admittedly less on MVOTC

To each their own. I think Ezra's a good rhythm guitarist, but the actual rhythm section of the band -- drums in particular -- has always been the achilles heel for me. (Seeing them live had the effect of confirming rather than dissipating this for me.)

i wish Bambina was twice as long

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 3 May 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link

To each their own. I think Ezra's a good rhythm guitarist, but the actual rhythm section of the band -- drums in particular -- has always been the achilles heel for me. (Seeing them live had the effect of confirming rather than dissipating this for me.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), 3. maj 2019 20:54 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree it's always felt rickety, especially when I saw them live as well, but the rhythms they are trying to play are so much more inventive than pretty much any other indie band this side of Dirty Projectors.

Frederik B, Friday, 3 May 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link

Love the album so far.

Curious about the choices made for the singles that were released ahead of time. Would you guys have made the same decisions on prerelease singles?

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Friday, 3 May 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

This album is very bland.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link

you're bland

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

Something this album gets right in a way the other ones maybe didn’t is that the melodies are industrial strength but this time there’s a certain lightness of touch that keeps the whole from being overbearing. (Which might help explain why I’ve never rated this band too too highly, in terms of year end lists and such, in the past - despite the fact that I do like them a lot.)

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link

Because of the new album release the local station that plays this stuff is playing more from them. "Unbelievers" popped up and I forgot a) it existed (I've never really listened to VW at home) and b) how much I like it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 May 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

VW is very bland in general

I think this album at least there are leaning in to a 1990 triple-A radio station format vibe

I was hoping this album was going to lean hard into "we're having a baggy revival whether you like it or not" but large chunks of it feel like they landed on "you know, Jim Croce is really kind of nice"

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 3 May 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

True story: I just found out that Jim Croce is buried maybe two plots over from my dad!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

girl, if you don’t know by now... ;)

J. Sam, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

Rastam and Ezra
Founded a band
The music they made
Was just unbearably bland.
Rastam went solo
Ezra went on
But the album he finished
Was unbearably long.

Frederik B, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link

re: Ezra not pretending the band is a democracy anymore:

the impression i got from the credits for the pre-release tracks is that the rhythm section was barely involved at all in this album and it's basically an Ezra solo album - they were only credited with backing vocals on a few of the pre-release tracks and bass/drums were played by some LA session guys. they could have more playing credits on some of the album cuts though idk i haven't seen the full liner notes yet. in this piece: https://www.stereogum.com/featured/vampire-weekend-ezra-koenig-interview-father-of-the-bride/ Ezra does talk a bit about the band always having been his vision even if he did write with others

i really don't know how someone could argue the first two VW albums are bland of all things, hard to think of a more inventive indie band from the time.

ufo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link

NPR interview today was a mix of endearing and insufferable.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 May 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link

they've always played "accessible" sounds i think that's what ppl mean by bland

i love the album extremely chill gives me warm vibes

Mordy, Saturday, 4 May 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link

big fan of it. wanders a bit second half, but that's to be expected with so many songs new to the ears. i'm glad the band has become a kind of project rather than depending on the playing of the individual members. seems like a good way to go.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 4 May 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link

VW is Ezra and yer granny on bongos.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 4 May 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link

"spring snow" has really similar vibes to the new lambchop album, which i love

ufo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

better singing, though

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 May 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link

Could someone explain what is so "inventive" and about this band? Like being an early 00s indie band who did a thirdhand version of Paul Simon's secondhand version of African stuff?

I think a lot of it was they were cute and dressed well

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 May 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link


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