US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

lol like any of those accounts are more dangerous than the president's

what does Trump do on Facebook?

sell thirty dollar COLLUSION DELUSION t shirts

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...all of which involve fat-shaming Thor.

what does Trump do on Facebook?
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:00 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah I have no idea, I was conflating w twitter

What do people think of the Democratic questioning of Barr.
Heard criticism of method earlier including Maisie Hirono asking Barr if he thought the President's actions were ok.
I thought that if he answered it would at least have his position documented for history as an act of intentionality at least.
Seemed to be trying to dodge most responsibility.

i meant to mention yesterday, re: complaints that democrats aren't immediately holding barr in contempt and launching a lawsuit:

In previous legal battles over the ambiguous line where Congress’s subpoena power ends and the president’s executive-privilege power begins, courts have said that the Constitution requires both sides to negotiate in good faith to find a solution. If nothing else, Mr. Nadler is establishing a record that House lawyers can point to in any such litigation as they urge a judge to find that the administration’s position is unreasonable.

i've seen that line of reasoning elsewhere recently - that they're taking their sweet time to ask barr politely, over and over, to provide the subpoenaed documents, because they'll need to be able to fully demonstrate later on that they gave them every reasonable opportunity to comply

btw, gotta admire the chutzpah of the barr/GOP argument that Barr shouldn't have shown up to yesterday's House Judiciary Committee meeting because it's not fair that Democrats would use an attorney to question him

https://i.imgur.com/SMpb0fb.jpg?1

you do not, under any circumstances, gotta admire the chutzpah

Actually Trump is scheduled to announce an executive order this afternoon insisting that we all admire the chutzpah, sorry.

rubberneck the chutzpuh

But that chutzpah, it is extraordinary

the Shareef don't like it

There is no point to him testifying anyway

I want to hear from mueller

there's no point to him testifying about the report, but there's definitely value in his testifying about the process, his cahoots w/ WH etc.

Right. And his earlier testimony in front of the house (apr 9) provides the moment that could eventually remove him from office (when he said he wasn’t aware that mueller had any issues with the Barr’s 4-pager, even though mueller had sent a letter and had a phone call about it with him)

President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke Friday and both agreed "there was no collusion" between Moscow and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said.

Sanders said that the two briefly discussed special counsel Robert Mueller's report "essentially in the context of that it's over and there was no collusion." She added that she was "pretty sure both leaders were very well aware of (the Mueller report's finding) long before this call took place" because it was "something we've said for the better part of two and a half years."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-putin-discussed-mueller-report-agreed-no-collusion-white-house-n1001706

Reporters ask @realDonaldTrump about his call with #Putin, and specifically about #Putin's reaction to discussion of the #MuellerReport. "He smiled," Trump said.

— Mike Eckel (@Mike_Eckel) May 3, 2019

interesting/terrifying to see this guy's lifelong commitment to lying about literally everything clash with the fact that he's gone senile

"He smiled," Trump said.

So it was a Skype call? A Google Hangout?

bush could see putin's soul through his eyes
trump can sense his smile through the telephone

they were face-timing

Boys, I think America might be done for.

"This administration, unlike the previous one, takes election meddling seriously," she said

just on sheer audacity this is the tops

That 'taking meddling seriously' can be taken in several ways.

at least we take it seriously enough to collaborate! Obama wouldn't even share voter data!

Who is the thread title quote from?

And wtf does it even mean?

I quoted somebody in the April thread. WTF does anything mean anymore?

I believe it's from "The Quotable Karl Malone", 2019 edition

pretty dumb quote imo

i think it was re: the way i was feeling when spending my wednesday morning listening to bill barr lie to everyone while GOP senators pressed him on how the fbi needs to be investigated for spying on trump

the homepage of the washington post has a trump photo that looks like what would happen if alfred e. neuman became a third string mobster

You want a constitutional crisis, what happens if a state like CA or NY or whomever successfully manages to keep Trump off a presidential ballot if he doesn't release his tax returns (or whatever else they require of potential candidates)? Would that withstand legal scrutiny?

there's no legal requirement for a president to release their tax returns so no

Purely as a guess, I don't think that a state can compel a presidential candidate to release information that is regarded as private and privileged under all other circumstances. I'd guess that making ballot access contingent on releasing personal tax records would be struck down under the 'implied privacy rights' in the constitution, but I'd be interested in hearing the legal theory that would allow this.

given the deep love of implied privacy rights on the right wing of the court

never kid yourself that, if a precedent of a more liberal court suits the present right wing of the court, they'll give it big ups in their opinion, but try to narrow the application if they can.

er... don't kid yourself that they won't. (I probably shouldn't have gone for the double negative that time.)

all the Dems in CA need to do is tie up the lawsuit about tax returns in court until they say “sorry, ballots have been done for 2020 and it’s too late” a tactic Republicans use constantly to game elections

But Trump hasn't a prayer of winning CA anyway, so it would be a lot of work for nothing.

Lmao

Despite ridiculously loaded wording, the Harvard-Harris poll finds most Americans opt for "massive funding, taxation, and retooling of the American economy including eliminating the use of oil, coal, natural gas and all fossil fuels" to address climate change. pic.twitter.com/j8Xmi3hKzz

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin) May 4, 2019

Sitting in her office with its panoramic view of the National Mall, Ms. Pelosi — the de facto head of the Democratic Party until a presidential nominee is selected in 2020 — offered Democrats her “coldblooded” plan for decisively ridding themselves of Mr. Trump: Do not get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will ultimately get crushed in the Republican-controlled Senate, and do not risk alienating the moderate voters who flocked to the party in 2018 by drifting too far to the left.
“Own the center left, own the mainstream,” Ms. Pelosi, 79, said.
“Our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government — a simple message,” Ms. Pelosi said of the 40-seat Democratic pickup last year that resulted in her second ascent to the speakership. “We did not engage in some of the other exuberances that exist in our party” — a reference to some of the most ambitious plans advocated by the left wing of her party and some 2020 candidates, including “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, which she has declined to support.

Sitting in her office with its panoramic view of the National Mall, Ms. Pelosi — the de facto head of the Democratic Party until a presidential nominee is selected in 2020 — offered Democrats her “coldblooded” plan for decisively ridding themselves of Mr. Trump: Do not get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will ultimately get crushed in the Republican-controlled Senate, and do not risk alienating the moderate voters who flocked to the party in 2018 by drifting too far to the left.
“Own the center left, own the mainstream,” Ms. Pelosi, 79, said.
“Our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government — a simple message,” Ms. Pelosi said of the 40-seat Democratic pickup last year that resulted in her second ascent to the speakership. “We did not engage in some of the other exuberances that exist in our party” — a reference to some of the most ambitious plans advocated by the left wing of her party and some 2020 candidates, including “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, which she has declined to support.

Sitting in her office with its panoramic view of the National Mall, Ms. Pelosi — the de facto head of the Democratic Party until a presidential nominee is selected in 2020 — offered Democrats her “coldblooded” plan for decisively ridding themselves of Mr. Trump: Do not get dragged into a protracted impeachment bid that will ultimately get crushed in the Republican-controlled Senate, and do not risk alienating the moderate voters who flocked to the party in 2018 by drifting too far to the left.
“Own the center left, own the mainstream,” Ms. Pelosi, 79, said.
“Our passions were for health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government — a simple message,” Ms. Pelosi said of the 40-seat Democratic pickup last year that resulted in her second ascent to the speakership. “We did not engage in some of the other exuberances that exist in our party” — a reference to some of the most ambitious plans advocated by the left wing of her party and some 2020 candidates, including “Medicare for all” and the Green New Deal, which she has declined to support.

I read it a few hours ago, giving her credit for "exuberances."

y'know if the entire GOP and like 92% of dems are so hellbent on full-on corporatocracy i feel like we should at least follow the private sector in one respect and implement some sort of enforced retirement policy

(age based, not "term limits" obv)

she's coldblooded aright