US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

Well its all being recorded and at some point in the future people will be able to look back and see who's trying to pass themselves off as the voice of conscience.
Cruz bleurrgh. & everybody else here who thinks that being a stooge is a noble pursuit.

in the future these people will all be in crypts made of gold

it ith over.

can't believe that. BS.

If Mueller was so concerned about this shit maybe he should have come to a real conclusion instead of concluding with " Maaaaaaybe? What do you think?"

the report concluded that there was insufficient evidence to lay charges regarding any treasonous stuff with russia and washed its hands of making judgements about obstruction.

so it was conclusive in its own way.

If Mueller was so concerned about this shit maybe he should have come to a real conclusion instead of concluding with " Maaaaaaybe? What do you think?"

Constitutional crisis yet?
Or has it been like that for the last while.
I don't think history is going to be overly kind to senator Graham, probably not the Hon Major Barr neither.

Bruh we be in constitutional crisis mode for a while

Taibbi and Greenwald's tweets p much all "im not owned! im not owned!" at this point

every day or so I have that stark realization that OMG this government is really deeply corrupt

Until I have proof that Greenwald wasn't involved in outing Reality Winner, he's in the shitbox for me.

Yeah this is fun seeing checks and balances crumbling before our eyes. And knowing that the damage this administration is doing could last a generation or until the end of the USA as we once knew it. Another check mark in the “don’t have children” column.

Still seeing effects of Reagan manifesting, can’t imagine what long term pain Trump will deliver us.

Yeah this is fun seeing checks and balances crumbling before our eyes. And knowing that the damage this administration is doing could last a generation or until the end of the USA as we once knew it. Another check mark in the “don’t have children” column.

Still seeing effects of Reagan manifesting, can’t imagine what long term pain Trump will deliver us.

If you’re still seeing the Gipper, kids were probably moot anyway, right?

There was one thing that it appears they are trying to taken as a given, that there was heavy Russian interference in the 2016 election. Not sure to what extent GOP were admitting that previously. But that was the point of the Marsha Blackburn spiel wasn't it?
Apart from that bizarro take on who was behaving in an unprecedented way. That actually sounded like if taken outof context she might have had a point, sounded like it would apply to Barr's behaviour and it took me a moment to realise she was actually talking about the Dems. I was hoping it might be a sign of some GOP discontent with the current farcical state. But they do seem to be turning into a monolithic whole don't they?

power is power

It is astonishing in retrospect how quickly we went from “Iran-Contra is no big deal” to “the Clintons secretly murdered a bunch of their political opponents!” in the space of about five years back in the 1990s.

— David Walsh (@DavidAstinWalsh) May 2, 2019

is it, though?

uhhh so Barr was subpoenaed didn't show up for his hearing

time to find out if the executive branch is going to have any oversight whatsoever

Legislative, that is

I love a good constitutional crisis in the morning

Begin the impeachment process now

Jerry Nadler to reporters: "We will make one more good faith attempt to negotiate and to get the access to the report that we need, and then, if we don't get that, we will proceed to hold the attorney general in contempt and we'll go from there."

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 2, 2019

why do you keep giving these people chances. arrest him now

Impeachment needed on at least 2 people.
Anybody else need a nice bit of impeachment?
Kavanagh? Do you get a better rate for multiples?

like for once can you spineless idiots just do what the majority of the country that voted you in wants you to do

Democrats ain’t going to do a thing. Wake me up when a single WH staff member or agency executive is sitting in jail for contempt.

The law is a grand, mutual delusion. It requires at least 51% to believe in it for it to work. Republicans no longer believe in it, so Dems are only talking to themselves with this rule of law nonsense.

Gilead!

Dems are just doing the same shit I do to my 4 year old

Last chance!!!
This is your last warning!!!
I'm gonna count to 5...
If you don't testify right this instant, I'm holding you in contempt!
I'm warning you!!!
bUddy yOuR on THin IcE

Sarah Sanders went out on the WH lawn this morning talking some serious shit abt Nadler, clearly provoking him.

I do think they will hold Barr in contempt, whether or not they have the stones to fine much less jail anybody is obv a different matter

ooh perhaps he will be censured! that'll show him!

it's kind of gutsy for sarah sanders to not hold a press conference for a couple months (except for a group of children on bring your kids to work day - i wish that was a joke) and still step out on the lawn to talk shit on a congressmen who is mad about the whole constitutional crisis thing

she sucks so much

Adam Serwer: Barr is a fanatic

Barr’s involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal helps illuminate his conduct today. The administration of President Ronald Reagan had defied federal law by selling arms to Iran in order to fund right-wing guerrillas in Central America, a scandal that led to the appointment of an independent counsel and the convictions of several high-ranking administration officials. When George H.W. Bush took office, he pardoned six officials implicated by the investigation at Barr’s urging.

The Iran-Contra scandal itself speaks to the conception of executive power to which Barr subscribes: that a president can do whatever he wants, even if Congress bars him from doing so, particularly if he is acting in what he believes to be the interests of the country—Trump is famously incapable of distinguishing between national interests and personal ones, between loyalty to him and loyalty to the nation. As Reagan’s former national-security adviser, Robert McFarlane, put it, Reagan “just didn’t believe that it was a legitimate authority of the Congress to say that, that he, rather than the Congress, determined how he would conduct, in this case, the support of the freedom fighters.”

man i wish i could just stop doing huge parts of my job without any repercussions

I know they stopped caring what anybody thinks a looooong time ago but (shame on me) Sanders still(!) surprises w/ the extent to which they do not give a single fuck

The not-giving-a-fuck is the point.

It's about the fucks they don't give, man.

but i was informed by thousands of memes and t-shirts and really bad jokes by the water cooler that it is cool to not give a fuck, and i was encouraged to try to count the number of fucks that various people give, and i counted zero in the picture that was provided and realized that in fact they were proud that i could not find any fucks, and it was supposed to be funny

and the office cool guy made every finger except for the middle one slowly go down by using a fake hand-crank device, and i heard someone say "amazeballs" from the other room

Serwer is so good

The not-giving-a-fuck is the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzHLTy33qWM

not sure who needed to hear this today, but it’s ok not to be happy all the time. all that matters is that you #FeelYourWay. https://t.co/vPmy1sT0cC pic.twitter.com/XmF0GvMjCg

— Burger King (@BurgerKing) May 1, 2019

the return of Good Pelosi?

“What is deadly serious about it is the attorney general of the United States of America was not telling the truth to the Congress of the United States,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters on Thursday, referring to a House hearing in which he said he was unaware that the special counsel had protested his portrayal of his conclusions. “That’s a crime.”

stephen moore out

Damn, misread that as Miller for half a tick and felt an endorphin rush like you wouldn't believe.

me too

same

Democrats need to give fewer fucks.

stephen miller out

sorry, just wanted to provide that endorphin rush again for everyone

I think she's waiting for that pesky red line to stop inching forward at just the moment when Trump would've otherwise stepped over it.

I just don't get what she's supposed to say about it *publicly* at this point.

Telegraph a low moving process to her opponents?

...she is patiently holding out for the right moment to act against Donald Trump. What that right moment may be is a mystery.

If Pelosi is waiting for Trump's poll numbers to drop as a result of his stonewalling the House, she's deluded. But it seems more likely that she is listening to her caucus and hearing too much hesitation, fear and doubt to feel able to charge ahead. I'd say the right moment would be when the timidity of her caucus transforms into some backbone and resolve.

Oh okay, so we're fucked then.

But we knew that already.

How marvelous that we end up at the same point every day!

Ah, but we'll get a new thread and a fresh start tomorrow!

FTR, I don't think we are of necessity fucked, just that hanging our hopes on a sudden tsunami of moxie overtaking our democratic representatives is a bullet train to Fuckedville.

House Dems are the New Mueller!

Is this thread also being generated by a neural net

Isn't everything at this point

Is this thread also being generated by a neural net

Of course it is. Except it's neural nets, plural. And they aren't hardware, but wetware.

speak for yourself, meatbag

sorry, but whatever the bizarro version of the Turing Test would be, you fail it.

How marvelous that we end up at the same point every day!

http://i64.tinypic.com/2qbr4gz.gif

Toilet

lol

Arthur Laffer is getting the presidential Medal of Freedom, per a WH release.

— Jim Tankersley (@jimtankersley) May 31, 2019

It occurred to me the other day that we're still litigating the 2016 election, which has technically been going on since late 2014. Let's see how 2020 goes down.

are we? I only thought about it when HRC was inflicted on Hunter College grads yesterday.

Oh now this is funny.

JUST FILED: Transcript of Nov. 22, 2017, voicemail from Trump lawyer John Dowd to Michael Flynn's lawyer pic.twitter.com/GU4RjC1nxT

— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 31, 2019

I honestly thought this was a joke at first.

John Dowd has issued a statement on his voicemail. He used Comic Sans. pic.twitter.com/eKdYoCJpAz

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) May 31, 2019

good morning!

As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2019

I started a June thread and hated the title immediately. Somebody else try.

From today's White House propaganda email:

Trump Shakes ‘Every Single Hand’ of US Air Force Graduates While Praising Their ‘Noble Road of Service’ -Independent Journal Review
“The president showered the U.S. Air Force Academy’s graduating class with praise and encouragement as they are ‘ready to fly, fight, and win,’” Madison Summers reports. “During the ceremony, Trump announced that he would shake ‘every single hand’ of the nearly [1,000] graduates as they walk across the stage.”

our big boy president shaked hands with all of thems peoples, whooza good president yes he is

in my clearer moments, i find the key to doing new things is to just not care if it's bad

no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics threads was nasty

Let us hope he didn't develop hand spurs partway through

Mods, close thread...?