ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

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sweatpants are at least upfront about the level of effort the wearer is putting in. i’ll take that over the countless number of cheap-looking jeans and khakis that fit horribly and are three inches too long.

I am into that aesthetic as a couple, xpost inorbit.

Yes I support this couple outfit idea. Yerac - yes the clapping is exactly what I mean. It’s not right.

I sometimes regret not buying this from a thift store, but there's no way I'd ever actually wear it:
https://i.imgur.com/NYH99Qi.jpg

nice. i bought a black, teal, and purple one for a party but haven't worn it since. probably should take it to a thrift store so the cycle can start again.

sweats are only ever appropriate in public either going to or from the gym imo

I hate how all sweats seem to be that jogger shape now.

same. i had to scour ebay for a pre-jogger pair of nike sweatpants to replace the ones that were dying

also annoyed that champion is in style right now cuz now i can't find the nice reverse weave sweats for cheap at nordstrom rack anymore

im super into washing and bleaching and fabric softening my clothes, the soft faded life

i turned a pair of flat gray bad color jeans into a nice natural light khaki using bleach :]

theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI

My assortment of dashingly minimalist one-shoulder bags are starting to give me back pain. Is it Jansport time?

I had this cheapo black hanes t-shirt where I had spilled bleach right about in the spot where a t-shirt pocket would go, and it made a somewhat cool-looking, orange-whiteish splotch, so I used to wear it out -- people sometimes asked me if it was a designer t-shirt.

I've thought about getting some more of those and just experimenting with bleach spills.

i'm giving thought to a tote/backpack cross because i have become a scooter wanker in los angeles, and scooting while carrying a toat a tote is suicidal.

just put the tote straps around your shoulders like it's a backpack boom you're welcome

i like peter and ian's looks in joy division, but it turns out every single picture of joy division is black and white: https://i.imgur.com/eECkPt8.jpg

can some britishers suggest some shirt and pant color combos that some blokes might've worn around that time?

there are some colour photographs, though they are in the minority. generally seems to be quite muted colors:

the big coats are grey or navy,
grey, navy or black pants. black dress shoes.
shirts are bit more varied, there's pictures of ian curtis in red, orange, and yellow shirts. as well as pale blue and olive and white. don't think I've ever seen hooky in anything that colorful in joy division days (maybe pale blue shirt on the more colorful side)

oh yeah maybe olive pants as well. bit of military look sometimes, especially ian

here's some evidence

joy division on so it goes 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL5EuxBn6Ow

joy division on so it goes in 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCVHAjTBb1U

ian in red (hooky in ? but nothing too colourful)
https://www.last.fm/music/Joy+Division/+images/f43b77f2b0ce4e7bce5640c5e8d6b3ce

awesome!

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anyway, don't know if Unionmade at 18th and Sanchez in SF has been mentioned, but it's my favorite men's clothing store maybe ever

https://gawker.com/5961169/unionmade-retailer-of-expensive-fashions-that-are-not-union-made

I'm completely stuck at the moment. beginning to hit middle age, boring professional etc, so past the place where i can carry off yoof, and really dislike standard english standard male wear. need to spend at a price point below a lot of the 'well-dressed man', and also I find them tending either to dullness, pomposity or that fuckin sprezzatura world.

the items i've bought from old town i like both in terms of quality and look, but i don't always want to look like i'm tending a fishing smack off the Suffolk coast in the '40s.

i *need* instagram accounts for some *looks*, some online recommendations and for any of you london based, shopping recommendations. feel since LG left and woof posts less frequently i've lost bearings a bit.

not at all averse to buying from abroad either tbh, and i've looked somewhat longingly at some japanese stores, though the fucking state of the pound at the moment makes buying hessian sack a mortgageable enterprise.

hello!

I'm maybe a little stuck myself atm. I realised I have had exactly 2 looks for the last 30 years - look 1: academic manqué; look 2: 1989 Mudhoney audience member. I just bounce between them, creating an ever more expensive version of each as my income rises.

But yes the state of the pound makes me very very angsty about buying from overseas, which is unfortunate because the two things I am enjoying at the moment are m2m shirts from Proper Cloth (ie look 1 - got a lovely Madras and a v simple blue Oxford from them) and Japanese heavy flannel (ie look 2 - ordered this direct from UES).

fwiw I think proper cloth still works out pretty well, given the range of shirtings, degree of customisation, and control over fit. But it's def best-shirts rather than everyday-shirts.

hello!

waiting for the day when professional media workwear forms a perfect ven with 1989 Mudhoney-just-behind-the-moshpit fan. Basically i need to up my 'best shirts' quotient a bit so the Proper Cloth option is good. AndI need a bit of non-shirt top options, including jumper options, tho i think that's easier. Mind you, terrible state of crewnecks and indeed v-necks in the world sometimes, sloppy necks or blousy hang.

going to go back to japanese websites for other top options, and stop looking at coats are basically a $1000 *look* for red letter days, and not sustainable daily wear.

Spaces I think about moving into:

* Agèd semi-mod who only buys from American Classics and John Simons and stands in the shop chatting all day. Large cap.
* Drunk in a suit with no tie, in a suit all the time even though it's not right for his work or social situations. Thinks he's in the Bad Seeds, actually just sweaty and awkward. Feel like this is basically an alcoholic look, and sadly I've got my drinking under control.
* Something austere and Japanese. Don't really have the vocab to capture this.

I'm older and into minimal, slightly technical stuff made by Outlier, Mission Workshop, occasionally Uniqlo, the Sea to Sky collection released a few years ago from Reigning Champ. I'm not talking Neuromancer-wannabe stuff or anything. I just don't like branding and I like a little function along with form. Solid colors, usually shades of gray, black, and muted colors. Anybody else into this stuff and have any suggestions? I'm specifically looking for a new jacket appropriate for like 30-40 F and button-up shirts that have a boxy or even slightly flared out fit (like a Japanese work shirt) but not big tents meant to hide bellies.

did you find anything you liked, beard papa?

i just popped in to say the aero-mesh undies at uniqlo are fuckin choice. i now feel like all my other underwear is trash.

No, and it's kind of funny to reread that post as it sort of makes it seem like I spend a lot of time and money shopping for clothes which I don't. I own a few Outlier pieces, but all of those other places I'm judging by staring at their sites and closing them without buying anything. I recently had to throw out some shirts that had developed huge holes in the backs (probably a result of wearing a backpack every day) too big to ignore, and now I am sort of desperate to find some affordable plain and muted shirts that don't get all stretched out at the bottom because I have weirdly wide hips. I'm thinking about just sizing up a few Taylor Stitch shirts and maybe having them tailored so they don't look all poofy. I still haven't found a jacket, either.

I really like Engineered Garments and I even have some immaculate flannels that I bought a few years ago for a low price, but I just don't know how to wear the stuff without feeling like I look like a total doof.

I strongly relate to guys' struggles on here.

I'm 44 and have been working 100% from home for several years, which means I have zero use for any of the dressy clothes I have, many of which are falling apart or don't fit anyway. But that's left me wearing t-shirts and jeans pretty much every day, and I'm getting real bored with it. It would be nice to find some casual clothes, especially shirts, that are slightly more stylish, but I find most men's fashions to be painfully drab and dull. I'd like something with a bit of color that looks more modern than classic.

Suggestions?

do you have an example of something you like?

Can anyone recommend business casual (button/oxford) shirts that aren't non-iron but also don't need a ton of ironing? I feel like most non-iron shirts look a little bit cheap or goofy, but the regular dress shirts I've bought lately all look wrinkled after an hour of wear and/or are really hard to iron.

the lands end hyde park oxfords stay reasonably unwrinkled on me.

Yeah Lands End shirts are good.

I can iron but generally don't - in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine. Alternatively, hanging them in the bathroom while you shower steams them nicely. So does putting a shirt on right after you get out of a shower.

On some of my shirts - notably Gap linen - the plackets may act up a bit but that's easily rectified.

in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine.

I have found this to be true with some brands, but I have shirts from both Nordstrom (the John W. Nordstrom line which is supposed to be higher end) and Ledbury (again, supposed to be high end) that don't do this. Granted both were clearance buys so maybe I just got some fabric that turned out to be shitty.

100% cotton oxford shirts need ironing. I can't imagine not doing that. I don't own a dryer though. Maybe the dryer sorta lets out the thousands of deep wrinkles?

Here are a few items I like in terms of design and colors

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/wwacza9mjt7rcnm/20191003_145143.jpg?dl=0

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/9x3c037ev7teoqh/20191003_145436.jpg?dl=0

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/0lqpmt2p66ylyye/20191003_145939.jpg?dl=0

I know you said shirts but I’ve found that wearing non-jeans more often than jeans is really key to not feeling like a schlub

I have decent pants I can wear, probably could get more, but yeah, it's the shirts where I'm struggling.

I've kind of semi-given up. wearing some chaotic looks these days. loose pair of black wranglers with hi-tec hiking boots, a navy kappa sweatshirt and a black bomber that doesn't quite go is today's ensemble

100% cotton oxford shirts need ironing. I can't imagine not doing that. I don't own a dryer though. Maybe the dryer sorta lets out the thousands of deep wrinkles?

And I avoid “wrinkle resistant” and “no-iron” shit like the plague - keep that formaldehyde bullshit offa my torso thx

Maybe gitman vintage Moodles?

I think you are on the right track, I like their plaids, but holy smokes, I can't afford them

all of their web exclusives are really nice though

The way people throw out label names on this board I kinda assume most of you only have like 4 outfits in your closet and think that’s normal