ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

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i'm going to go out on a limb here and admit that i have never knowingly seen a pair of "drawstring slacks"

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:19 (nine months ago) link

i don't want to see them

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:29 (nine months ago) link

i haven't worn sweatpants as an adult but am always tempted to go back to my west of scotland roots and get a nice vintage kappa or sergio tacchini number off of eBay

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:30 (nine months ago) link

i skulk around in my gym clothes sometimes

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:44 (nine months ago) link

My bf keeps threatening to find us matching Sergio Tacchini warm ups so we look like Russian mobsters apparently. Looking at their website now--I don't hate them, I can say that much.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:47 (nine months ago) link

But I think he meant the slick shiny 80s ones with like diagonal color blocking.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:52 (nine months ago) link

shit's gettin ivan lendl up in here

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:55 (nine months ago) link


lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:01 (nine months ago) link

sweatpants are at least upfront about the level of effort the wearer is putting in. i’ll take that over the countless number of cheap-looking jeans and khakis that fit horribly and are three inches too long.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:01 (nine months ago) link

I am into that aesthetic as a couple, xpost inorbit.

Yerac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:13 (nine months ago) link

Yes I support this couple outfit idea. Yerac - yes the clapping is exactly what I mean. It’s not right.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:21 (nine months ago) link

I sometimes regret not buying this from a thift store, but there's no way I'd ever actually wear it:

joygoat, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:26 (nine months ago) link

nice. i bought a black, teal, and purple one for a party but haven't worn it since. probably should take it to a thrift store so the cycle can start again.

circles, Thursday, 2 May 2019 03:19 (nine months ago) link

sweats are only ever appropriate in public either going to or from the gym imo

I hate how all sweats seem to be that jogger shape now.

same. i had to scour ebay for a pre-jogger pair of nike sweatpants to replace the ones that were dying

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 May 2019 04:26 (nine months ago) link

also annoyed that champion is in style right now cuz now i can't find the nice reverse weave sweats for cheap at nordstrom rack anymore

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 May 2019 04:28 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

im super into washing and bleaching and fabric softening my clothes, the soft faded life

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:45 (eight months ago) link

i turned a pair of flat gray bad color jeans into a nice natural light khaki using bleach :]

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:46 (eight months ago) link

theme song

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:48 (eight months ago) link

My assortment of dashingly minimalist one-shoulder bags are starting to give me back pain. Is it Jansport time?

mick signals, Monday, 10 June 2019 15:48 (eight months ago) link

I had this cheapo black hanes t-shirt where I had spilled bleach right about in the spot where a t-shirt pocket would go, and it made a somewhat cool-looking, orange-whiteish splotch, so I used to wear it out -- people sometimes asked me if it was a designer t-shirt.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:59 (eight months ago) link

I've thought about getting some more of those and just experimenting with bleach spills.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 10 June 2019 15:59 (eight months ago) link

i'm giving thought to a tote/backpack cross because i have become a scooter wanker in los angeles, and scooting while carrying a toat a tote is suicidal.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:07 (eight months ago) link

just put the tote straps around your shoulders like it's a backpack boom you're welcome

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 June 2019 16:10 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

i like peter and ian's looks in joy division, but it turns out every single picture of joy division is black and white:

can some britishers suggest some shirt and pant color combos that some blokes might've worn around that time?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:41 (seven months ago) link

there are some colour photographs, though they are in the minority. generally seems to be quite muted colors:

the big coats are grey or navy,
grey, navy or black pants. black dress shoes.
shirts are bit more varied, there's pictures of ian curtis in red, orange, and yellow shirts. as well as pale blue and olive and white. don't think I've ever seen hooky in anything that colorful in joy division days (maybe pale blue shirt on the more colorful side)

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:50 (seven months ago) link

oh yeah maybe olive pants as well. bit of military look sometimes, especially ian

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:51 (seven months ago) link

here's some evidence

joy division on so it goes 1978

joy division on so it goes in 1979

ian in red (hooky in ? but nothing too colourful)

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:54 (seven months ago) link


diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:57 (seven months ago) link

when I try to load all messages I get a "deceptive site ahead" notice

anyway, don't know if Unionmade at 18th and Sanchez in SF has been mentioned, but it's my favorite men's clothing store maybe ever

Dan S, Thursday, 8 August 2019 06:03 (six months ago) link

I'm completely stuck at the moment. beginning to hit middle age, boring professional etc, so past the place where i can carry off yoof, and really dislike standard english standard male wear. need to spend at a price point below a lot of the 'well-dressed man', and also I find them tending either to dullness, pomposity or that fuckin sprezzatura world.

the items i've bought from old town i like both in terms of quality and look, but i don't always want to look like i'm tending a fishing smack off the Suffolk coast in the '40s.

i *need* instagram accounts for some *looks*, some online recommendations and for any of you london based, shopping recommendations. feel since LG left and woof posts less frequently i've lost bearings a bit.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:02 (six months ago) link

not at all averse to buying from abroad either tbh, and i've looked somewhat longingly at some japanese stores, though the fucking state of the pound at the moment makes buying hessian sack a mortgageable enterprise.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:03 (six months ago) link


I'm maybe a little stuck myself atm. I realised I have had exactly 2 looks for the last 30 years - look 1: academic manqué; look 2: 1989 Mudhoney audience member. I just bounce between them, creating an ever more expensive version of each as my income rises.

But yes the state of the pound makes me very very angsty about buying from overseas, which is unfortunate because the two things I am enjoying at the moment are m2m shirts from Proper Cloth (ie look 1 - got a lovely Madras and a v simple blue Oxford from them) and Japanese heavy flannel (ie look 2 - ordered this direct from UES).

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:22 (six months ago) link

fwiw I think proper cloth still works out pretty well, given the range of shirtings, degree of customisation, and control over fit. But it's def best-shirts rather than everyday-shirts.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:25 (six months ago) link


waiting for the day when professional media workwear forms a perfect ven with 1989 Mudhoney-just-behind-the-moshpit fan. Basically i need to up my 'best shirts' quotient a bit so the Proper Cloth option is good. AndI need a bit of non-shirt top options, including jumper options, tho i think that's easier. Mind you, terrible state of crewnecks and indeed v-necks in the world sometimes, sloppy necks or blousy hang.

going to go back to japanese websites for other top options, and stop looking at coats are basically a $1000 *look* for red letter days, and not sustainable daily wear.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:48 (six months ago) link

Spaces I think about moving into:

* Agèd semi-mod who only buys from American Classics and John Simons and stands in the shop chatting all day. Large cap.
* Drunk in a suit with no tie, in a suit all the time even though it's not right for his work or social situations. Thinks he's in the Bad Seeds, actually just sweaty and awkward. Feel like this is basically an alcoholic look, and sadly I've got my drinking under control.
* Something austere and Japanese. Don't really have the vocab to capture this.

woof, Thursday, 22 August 2019 14:37 (six months ago) link

I'm older and into minimal, slightly technical stuff made by Outlier, Mission Workshop, occasionally Uniqlo, the Sea to Sky collection released a few years ago from Reigning Champ. I'm not talking Neuromancer-wannabe stuff or anything. I just don't like branding and I like a little function along with form. Solid colors, usually shades of gray, black, and muted colors. Anybody else into this stuff and have any suggestions? I'm specifically looking for a new jacket appropriate for like 30-40 F and button-up shirts that have a boxy or even slightly flared out fit (like a Japanese work shirt) but not big tents meant to hide bellies.

beard papa, Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:45 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

did you find anything you liked, beard papa?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:03 (four months ago) link

i just popped in to say the aero-mesh undies at uniqlo are fuckin choice. i now feel like all my other underwear is trash.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:04 (four months ago) link

No, and it's kind of funny to reread that post as it sort of makes it seem like I spend a lot of time and money shopping for clothes which I don't. I own a few Outlier pieces, but all of those other places I'm judging by staring at their sites and closing them without buying anything. I recently had to throw out some shirts that had developed huge holes in the backs (probably a result of wearing a backpack every day) too big to ignore, and now I am sort of desperate to find some affordable plain and muted shirts that don't get all stretched out at the bottom because I have weirdly wide hips. I'm thinking about just sizing up a few Taylor Stitch shirts and maybe having them tailored so they don't look all poofy. I still haven't found a jacket, either.

I really like Engineered Garments and I even have some immaculate flannels that I bought a few years ago for a low price, but I just don't know how to wear the stuff without feeling like I look like a total doof.

beard papa, Thursday, 3 October 2019 16:15 (four months ago) link

I strongly relate to guys' struggles on here.

I'm 44 and have been working 100% from home for several years, which means I have zero use for any of the dressy clothes I have, many of which are falling apart or don't fit anyway. But that's left me wearing t-shirts and jeans pretty much every day, and I'm getting real bored with it. It would be nice to find some casual clothes, especially shirts, that are slightly more stylish, but I find most men's fashions to be painfully drab and dull. I'd like something with a bit of color that looks more modern than classic.


Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:01 (four months ago) link

do you have an example of something you like?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:36 (four months ago) link

Can anyone recommend business casual (button/oxford) shirts that aren't non-iron but also don't need a ton of ironing? I feel like most non-iron shirts look a little bit cheap or goofy, but the regular dress shirts I've bought lately all look wrinkled after an hour of wear and/or are really hard to iron.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:48 (four months ago) link

the lands end hyde park oxfords stay reasonably unwrinkled on me.

adam, Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:55 (four months ago) link

Yeah Lands End shirts are good.

I can iron but generally don't - in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine. Alternatively, hanging them in the bathroom while you shower steams them nicely. So does putting a shirt on right after you get out of a shower.

On some of my shirts - notably Gap linen - the plackets may act up a bit but that's easily rectified.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:19 (four months ago) link

in my experience if you hang shirts up immediately as they come out of the dryer, they will be fine.

I have found this to be true with some brands, but I have shirts from both Nordstrom (the John W. Nordstrom line which is supposed to be higher end) and Ledbury (again, supposed to be high end) that don't do this. Granted both were clearance buys so maybe I just got some fabric that turned out to be shitty.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:32 (four months ago) link

100% cotton oxford shirts need ironing. I can't imagine not doing that. I don't own a dryer though. Maybe the dryer sorta lets out the thousands of deep wrinkles?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:53 (four months ago) link

I know you said shirts but I’ve found that wearing non-jeans more often than jeans is really key to not feeling like a schlub

rob, Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:31 (four months ago) link

I have decent pants I can wear, probably could get more, but yeah, it's the shirts where I'm struggling.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 22:36 (four months ago) link

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