HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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(yes Jorah was in the charge?!?!)
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I didn't see how he survived when it seemed like pretty much everybody in that charge appeared to be automatic cannon fodder or corpse fodder or whatever.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

he dropped back in the formation, then rode back ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

important update: I was behind a porsche with a truncated misspelling of "khaleesi" on the license plate yesterday

did not see whether daenerys was driving

mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

Jorah led the charge initially, then there was a specific shot of him being passed by faster dothraki riders, who then rode up to the lead. So he got points for bravery for leading, then got himself an escape hatch.

omar little, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

(yes Jorah was in the charge?!?!)
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I didn't see how he survived when it seemed like pretty much everybody in that charge appeared to be automatic cannon fodder or corpse fodder or whatever.

― Stevolende, Wednesday, May 1, 2019 9:21 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark

a number of the riders from that charge came retreated and came back to the lines looking deflated

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

If you turn the brightness all the way up on the shot with Arya and Sansa observing the Dothraki charge from winterfell, you can see that Jorah is only rising at 95% speed

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

Unfortunate typo there but still an impressive rise %, all considering

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link

btw there's a split second, marking the gear shift from 'we are charging' to 'we are dying', where you see the foremost Dothraki rider suddenly come up against the zombie giant, an 'ulp' moment where he is clearly looking up at something much larger than himself

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

can't believe no one has mentioned Insane Clown Posse and Juggalos and that Jorah wasn't in the front of the dothraki line the whole time in this thread

sarahell, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

woop woop Dothraki

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

haha

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

Jorggahlos

i got bag sauce in my bag (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

Khal Faygo missed the boat to Westeros and now rules the Great Grass Sea

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

obligatory "Nedden Stark" joke goes here

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

fukkin maesters how do they work

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

legit lol at Khal Faygo

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link

same

mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link

Sorry gotta link this one here

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bjkyln/so_we_go_into_hbo_and_tell_them_bran_has_an_idea/

Evan, Thursday, 2 May 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link

I still don't get why people are so upset about Bran not using some super magical powers, because...

A) Bran's powers have been shown to be fairly limited. He can see the past, and he can warg into animals, maybe humans too, though Hodor may have been a special case. It's never been implied he could warg into wights (who have no mind to take control of), including the wight dragon, or into the White Walkers. (If he had that ability, surely he would've used it when the wights were about to kill him and his friends when they were beyond the Wall.) So, what were people expecting, that Bran would pull some never-before-seen offensive magic out of his ass to kill the Night King. Wouldn't that have been a total deus ex machina ending, much more so than the current one is?

B) The good guys' plan was clearly laid out in the previous episode: use Bran as a bait so the Night King will personally come into the Kingswood, then kill him. Okay, dragonfire didn't work like they thought it wood, but they know Valyrian steel can kill the White Walkers. And Bran could probably sense Arya running into the Godswood, armed with a Valyrian steel dagger Bran had given to her. So in the end everything more or less went according to the plan, one that was suggested by Bran himself. What else should Bran have done, since his plan worked?

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 05:43 (five years ago) link

Somehow I feel people have gotten so used to "clever" plot twists, where some mastermind is revealed to have had a secret plan all along, that they project those expectations even into stories where there is no reason to expect such a twist. GoT's plot twists have mostly been about someone unexpectedly using brutal violence to kill their opponents, not about some intricate master plans.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link

He was helped warging into Hodor as well right, by the 3ER?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:12 (five years ago) link

Otherwise I agree T, I've been reading the butthurt book fans on /r/asoiaf and theyre all acting like this

http://i.imgur.com/0nHkcg4.png

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:14 (five years ago) link

I'm assuming there are a bunch of 'I'm going to go now' memes out there?

kinder, Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:20 (five years ago) link

...my planet needs me

(yes)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:29 (five years ago) link

He was helped warging into Hodor as well right, by the 3ER?
When he warged into kid Hodor in the past, yes. But he had already warged into adult Hodor earlier, for example when they were hiding in the tower and he wanted to shut Hodor up so he wouldn't reveal their location.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:22 (five years ago) link

But yeah, we clearly saw that the previous One-Eyed Raven was mostly helpless against the wight/White Walker attack, there was nothing he could do against them, and they killed him. And that dude had been the OER for ages, so why would Bran fare any better in a straight fight with them?

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:26 (five years ago) link

The problem with Bran is that he's a perfect storm of bad/uncharismatic actor, creepy/boring character and clunky expository/plot device. Even though he's been there from day one the warg incarnation has turned him into the GoT equivalent of Jacob from lost, basically.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link

Nobody actually wants all this to be the result of a magic mastermind who has been pulling strings from decades before he was born. The Hodor 'reveal' was probably the lowest moment in the entire series and that's really saying something.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link

Bran replying "chaos is a ladder" to Littlefinger justifies his entire arc

nashwan, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:07 (five years ago) link

I like bran since he became the three-eyed raven, he has a good vibe now

ogmor, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:13 (five years ago) link

He's certainly nailed sitting down and staring intensely

groovypanda, Thursday, 2 May 2019 09:46 (five years ago) link

Since the kid from Love Actually died, Bran has the most "Brit drama school kid actor" vibe of all the child performers on GOT, but I think he's carved out a solid, weird niche since then

In general this has always been a solid B+ show for me, and being overly critical (or critical at all) gets in the way of it being FUN and annoys me. The nerd entitlement now (not here, but elsewhere) is v. tiring

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 2 May 2019 10:03 (five years ago) link

Important to separate nerd entitlement from valid criticism, though.

chap, Thursday, 2 May 2019 10:51 (five years ago) link

xp agreed, view this purely as an entertainment show at this point and don't think it can bear or merits examination in depth, but that's not necessarily a bad thing (in moderation, which is why it's a good thing it's ending now)

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 2 May 2019 11:07 (five years ago) link

Isn't the entire point that the previous raven embodied Bran and therefore wasn't killed?

Bran has been good as Three Eyed Raven, one of the few characters with some mystery rather than playing a gif of themselves.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:54 (five years ago) link

any time in the recent episode when someone had to push a door closed to keep the wights out, I would think "You know, there was a guy who was good at that" and then I'd get sad

mh, Thursday, 2 May 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

beric-ade however

sarahell, Thursday, 2 May 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

good point

mh, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link

I couldn’t tell if they meant Beric to be resembling Jesus on the cross during his demise.

I couldn’t tell because I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

Did the weapon maker get dragged off the battlements. I saw the second part of a process and didn't see who it happened to.

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:27 (five years ago) link

probably hard to resist pulling Christ poses when you've been resurrected a bunch

rob, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link

idk maybe after the second or third resurrection your posing evolves, and you become like, the Neil Young or Billy Joel of resurrected dudes

sarahell, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link

I couldn’t tell if they meant Beric to be resembling Jesus on the cross during his demise.

i noticed that as well, and my first thought was that it was an homage to the Paladin character class

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

i don't actually believe that's true, of course (i'm pretty sure Beric doesn't worship jesus) but it was a funny coincidence

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

brienne is the only paladin eligible fighter in this show

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

I think most of the frustration with the episode stems from how useless Jon and Dany were and I also felt let-down, but to be honest avoiding that kind of fan service is the most old-school game of thrones thing they've done in a few seasons so in hindsight I'm grateful.

dan selzer, Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link

xp

i dunno, brienne is officially a knight now, and that seems more fitting - her loyalty is to people, not to gods

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

i just mean she's the only one who doesn't do the things you mustn't do if you want to be a paladin

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

oh, i gotcha. yeah, that seems to be true (although "can paladins drink?" is a fun google search)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link


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