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Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSNV9EGB3s

After composing a series of ground-breaking pieces in 1967 that employed phasing, Steve Reich decided that he wanted to explore phasing past the realms of tape and live performance by experimenting with electronic instrumentation. To that end, with the help of friends at Bell Laboratories, Reich created the Phase Shifting Pulse Gate, a kind of manually-operated sequencer specifically designed to facilitate the phasing technique. Despite having spent a year and a half on the development of the Pulse Gate, Reich quickly grew dissatisfied with its lifeless, mechanical nature and resolved to return to using more performer-dependent instrumentation. This piece, along with its companion 'Four Log Drums', have since been discarded by Reich.

This recording of Pulse Music (excerpted here in a French radio broadcast) was made at the work's second performance on May 27th 1969 at the Whitney Museum of Art in New York City.

MaresNest, Sunday, 16 June 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

I went to the recent Reich Richter Pärt show in NYC (new music by Reich, new art by Richter, some slightly older Pärt works) and wrote about it.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 16 June 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

your conclusion is one i've heard from everyone who went, though sometimes in much harsher terms

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 16 June 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Steve Reich basically all I have listened to for several days now

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

Just wait until you hear a second composition.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

? not sure if that's a joke or not

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 August 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

i listened to 18 musicians continuously for a few days in a row once

j., Friday, 23 August 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

That was a total joke. I love Steve Reich.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

I don't like all of his stuff - or rather, there's some of it I don't feel like listening to more than once, and then there's some stuff that seems like it should just go on forever (Music for 18 Musicians, Phase Patterns etc.)

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 August 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Yea I feel the same

marcos, Friday, 23 August 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Kinda want to do a poll of all his second (slow) movements

MaresNest, Friday, 23 August 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

Just wait until you hear a second composition.

That was a total joke. I love Steve Reich.

the title of Philip Glass's "Music With Changing Parts" always cracks me up along these lines

(lovingly - but not as much as I <3 Reich, though, xp, same here in that not all of it grabs me; that said, the first few times I put on the Early Works disc I didn't get it at all and then many years later I happened to put on It's Gonna Rain on headphones late at night and was entranced, so maybe the ones I don't care for are just waiting for their moments)

(apologies for mentioning SR's former furniture moving partner here, I gather neither of them would appreciate the crossreference)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

I like his percussion/phase music best, not as keen as the pseudo-narrative works he did later on.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

i've listened to various other pieces of his music and it's not that i don't find them worthwhile, it's just that i could just as well hear '18' over and over until i die, and can hardly imagine needing to hear anything else in between. which is pretty weird. generally i very much think hearing other work by an artist would be illuminating, more of a good thing, etc., but at best i just suppose that maybe in 30 or 40 years i'll get around to the rest of reich.

j., Friday, 23 August 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

Kinda want to do a poll of all his second (slow) movements

― MaresNest, Friday, August 23, 2019 11:53 PM (yesterday)

Electric Counterpoint would get my vote, TBH, I think the slow movements are often the least successful/interesting parts of Reich's pieces, especially the later ones.

Bloody Snail, Saturday, 24 August 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

I think the key with getting into steve reich’s other pieces is the time it takes to get through them. He’s got lots of great works that take like 15-20 minutes to play (octet, music for a large ensemble, tehellim, electric counterpoint, six pianos). he has a few pieces like one of the genesis tracks on the cave that blow me away in like 3 minutes.

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Saturday, 24 August 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link

XP - Oh I love most of them, especially those that that start with a big 'event' chord like Double Sextet, the slower and more delicate ones.

MaresNest, Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

There’s something about simplicity of vision that makes it easily mocked, when it’s often a virtue.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 24 August 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

otm the man has style

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEgrN1QTAqE

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQVSohnLdA

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShgWc2OlQdc

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Really thought that was going to be a parody using an Eminem acapella

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Nice idea, I made one - https://soundcloud.com/nowherians/reich-eminem_1

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

Very cool.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

Haha omg, yes

Please post this on youtube with a serious title.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b78wdMc3m7U

Maresn3st, Saturday, 16 October 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

i love this

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

gets to the emotional core that the slow sections of tehillim do so well

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

also i was playing this and my son goes "this sounds like steve reich" so thats cool

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

Your son OTM

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

It's like an extrapolated version of that beautiful second movement of WTC 9-11

Maresn3st, Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

By which I mean third movement, duh

Maresn3st, Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous

J. Sam, Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

three months pass...
one year passes...

it's 'music for 18 musicians' season tbh

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:17 (seven months ago) link

always in season imo

oatly carmichael (m bison), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:41 (seven months ago) link

yay

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 14 September 2023 22:42 (seven months ago) link

I actually played Double Sextet/2×5 on my way to work this morning bc I have a seasonal association with that album.

jaymc, Friday, 15 September 2023 00:16 (seven months ago) link

https://x.com/jmcunning/status/775692655795634176?s=20

jaymc, Friday, 15 September 2023 00:17 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

i've been listening to music for 18 musicians for years (the grand valley state university new music ensemble recording), and i have NOT checked out any other steve reich pieces. in mf18m, i love the soft and human quality of the propulsion, the surreal quality of hearing what a computer could play very 'well' instead being played by 'imperfect' but beautifully alive human touch, the slow rise and fall and drift of the motifs, which are gorgeous, and just the very time-stopping, mood-capturing magnetism of the whole thing. what steve reich recordings should i look for next?

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:04 (three months ago) link

Hmm. There's a lot of good phase work he did (Drumming, Clapping, Four Organs, Phase Patterns, etc.) that are similar or related, though not always as transformative/transportative. I know it's not what you asked for, but if you haven't heard it maybe give Philip Glass's "Music With Changing Parts" a shot, it's pretty similar.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:16 (three months ago) link

There's a lot of good phase work he did (Drumming, Clapping, Four Organs, Phase Patterns, etc.) that are similar or related, though not always as transformative/transportative.

yeah, those pieces are more lulling or even nullifying, but i actually like that more a lot of the time

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link

It's nearly all worth your time imho, but I'm especially fond of - Double Sextet, Three Movements, Music For A Large Ensemble, and Drumming.

Taking Josh's lead, give Glass' Music in Twelve Parts a try too.

MaresNest, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:25 (three months ago) link

i'll give these a try. i was just thinking 'maybe i should check out philip glass' so that's perfect. thanks all.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:30 (three months ago) link

Other recordings of the same piece can be illuminating too. The ECM version of mf18m (feels like a reddit thread) is generally considered definitive (the Nonesuch remake not so good). The Colin Currie Ensemble and Ensemble Signal, younger groups mentored by Reich, have done this and the CCE have also done Drumming, another trance like one. I would try mybe the original Deutsche Grammophone Drumming for a similar thing to what you get from m418m.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:38 (three months ago) link

Phase Patterns is the one that was a couple rungs below damn near life changing for me, I like almost everything I’ve heard by him but it all ends up paling in comparison just because that was such a mind shattering event hearing it for the first time. If you’ve heard anything else by him it probably wouldn’t have the same impact though.

Slim is an Alien, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:24 (three months ago) link

Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ & Music for a Large Ensemble were written around the same time and share a lot of the same vibe as Music for 18 musicians

bbq, Friday, 26 January 2024 06:32 (three months ago) link

"Octet / Music For A Large Ensemble / Violin Phase" on ECM is up there with M418M for me.

Against The 80s, Friday, 26 January 2024 08:24 (three months ago) link


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