Chvrches

I definitely think that in general white people pile on overzealously on black male public figures

... you do realize not everyone on ILX, or the world for that matter, is American?

― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:13 (four hours ago)

Are you saying you think this is strictly an American phenomenon?

No, but this context is American and fgti explains it from an American viewpoint, and maybe fgti is very familiar with the situation in countries outwith the US - in which case I defer to fgti - otherwise I don't believe you can switch from the American to the general, especially as nathom is not American. And this happens all the time on ILX.

There was virtually a whole thread of darraghmac and jordan s (I think?) going toe-to-toe over it.

fgti is not american

Canadian. Not exactly Belgium, is it?

... maybe don't answer that

We have had nearly a decade of Rehabilitate Chris Brown military-industrial complex and now we have a band who have had to up their security because they're recieving rape and death threats for calling it out.

Yes black artists are disproportionately attacked for things like this because they are disproportionately attacked for everything relative to white artists but even bearing that in mind no one should be choosing this hill to die on.

Also without wanting to downplay the racial element it's not like we haven't just had nearly two years' worth of #MeToo and an intensely nasty backlash to it, of which this is another symptom.

I hate that Chvrches are getting death threats, they do not deserve them. I understand why people would be moved to such anger and vitriol.

o_0

Understanding =/= endorsement

Good posts Matt DC

Tbh I am extremely doubtful that the abuse Chvrches are getting is predominantly motivated by racial injustice, especially given the parts of the internet where this story has blown up. And while we're talking about toxic biases it doesn't take a genius to work out which member of the band is getting the worst of the threats and abuse.

If you read what Brown actually posted it seems very much in asshole character ("a speeding bus full of mental patients"). Writing "TA-TA. GOODDAY PEASANTS" at them is kinda mostly lolsad - I'm probably trying too hard to read it as he also thinks they're from England.

it doesn't take a genius to work out which member of the band is getting the worst of the threats and abuse

oh yeah, no way they get 1/10 the grief over this sans Lauren

ime men sending a woman sexual violence threats over the internet are generally motivated by the impulse of "when a woman says something bad about something i like i threaten her w/sexual violence via the internet" & little more. like we can talk about how the media and white ppl talk about chris brown and black entertainers without extending the hand of understanding to chuds sending a woman their sex-torture fantasies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFGq92BYmt4

new track for Death Stranding is much better than nearly all the last album

oh yeah this plays way more to their strengths

this seems more promising yeah (that said is it just me or the mixing... not great)

I like how this performance sounds like it's just barely being held together

https://youtu.be/AGKpjOfjz48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjxq36QcUDI

really like this bc it reminds me of perfume

I'm here for this

feels like an improvement from the last album

reminding myself that the first four songs on the debut is like the best music ever lol

opening run on every open eye arguably even better

"leave a trace" ;_;

good song, love this band and looking forward to some new stuff

I put Love is Dead on the other day, and was surprised to find that it has grown on me quite a bit. Still not as strong as the first two, but not the disappointment I pegged it as at the time. Looking forward to the new stuff now.

next single is gonna have robert smith on it

hyyype

matt berninger, hideo kojima and now robert smith....they know their audience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjc7xtaPes

I like this!

But also, let's stop distracting him from finishing a new Cure record pls.

He'll move at his pace. Anyway yes, a lovely song and another good guest turn.

It's also long past overdue for him to do a second Join the Dots set just because the amount of one-offs, guest appearances, collaborations and more pretty well approaches 2 CDs for this century alone.

His guest spots for the last 20 years are consistently great, unlike the same period's two Cure albums. Encouraging him to do more pop-ins is surely only more likely to prompt him to make more music in general, too.

Jeez guys I was just joking because I want a new Cure record. I'm glad he does these pop-ins!

I figured! Ned and I were just musing, I guess

oh this is cool, especially the outro. sounds more like the cure than chvrches, very obvious why they got robert smith to guest on it & he does a great job

poll of robert smith pop-ins from the past 20 years

we're legally bound to refer to them only as "pop-ins"

Well yeah, it's not as if any of these bands actually invited him. I heard he bursts into the recording booth Kramer-style

Very cool

X https://t.co/GEdTU4SciQ

— ROBERT SMITH (@RobertSmith) June 2, 2021

I’d love if this was similar to the Crystal Castles setup where there’s two versions of the same song. One with Lauren and another with Robert. don’t feel like their vocals work well together, the contrast sounds weird. The chorus in particularly sticks out badly to my ears... I don’t know how else to describe it but Lauren’s vocals register to me as high energy and Robert’s isn’t. It sounds as if Robert is trying to keep up the pace with her in there.

Don’t love the way the drums are mixed either but that doesn’t bother me as much.

YO THIS IS FANTASTIC

so hyped for the album

I've not been taken at all by anything CHVRCHES has done since the first album but everything I've heard in the run-up for this new one has been glorious

the video game song is still my recent fave of theirs

video out now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U_LhzgwJ4U

poll of robert smith pop-ins from the past 20 years

top of the head: Junior Jack, Paul Hartnoll, Crystal Castles, Blank & Jones, Junkie XL, Blink 182, Earl Slick, Tweaker, Japanese Popstars, Blurillaz - what else needs to go in?

unfortunately, the billy corgan cover of "to love somebody"

sic:

65daysofstatic - come to me
Anik Jean - J'aurai tout essayé
Reeves Gabrels - Yesterdays gone

^ the last one of those is definitely the best of the three imo

Yesterday's Gone is a COGASM-era joint from the '90s, I'd skip that in this context. Will throw up a button poll unless there's mild interest in a week-long ranked ballot?