HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

sorry, brain fart

really appreciated Sansa's "maybe we should have stayed married" line to Tyrion

how exactly did Grey Worm survive

Some Twitterites are saying he didn't? I couldn't say either way.

― chap, Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:34 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He definitely survived because considerably more marginal characters got the gushy sad music treatment when they died. He might be gravely injured I suppose.

Still, excellent defensive enforcer, the kind every fan would want on their team. 8/10 performance even if Arya takes home the match ball.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, April 30, 2019 7:39 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's fine! They showed him plenty of times fightin' along with all the other named characters inside the walls late into the battle.

No offense to anyone here or on twitter or whatever but sometimes I feel like I'm one of the only people who apparently is able to follow the entire episode clearly? Granted in this case the broadcast of this particular episode was apparently extremely dark for most people. Just saying sometimes I'm surprised at the confusions that come up overall.

yeah, it was fine for me--on HBO Go and on a big screen tv.

lol this is why I don’t watch this in a room full of people, too many damn questions .xp

I watched the HD broadcast and it was really dark at times. Kept changing light levels in the room to see if it would help. Going to try watching it on HBO GO later this week to see if I notice a difference.

HBO Go seems to throttle the quality a little at really high-demand times but it's still not nearly as bad as the compression cable/satellite companies throw on there

I hate to weigh in on pedantic image quality junk but this episode is going to look a lot better on blu-ray/digital download

Same! But I'm speaking sort of broadly about general character mix-ups and weird scene misreads that have generally followed almost every episode. There's definitely a lot of characters and places to keep track of, though.

xxxp

iirc those misreads were what led to the creation of our long-standing Sean Bean casting joke

Only thing I couldn’t follow this episode was the specifics of why Bran was warging but it makes sense now. I was able to follow all the characters well.

he was busy flap-flap-flapping his way into the Night King's heart

Only thing I couldn’t follow this episode was the specifics of why Bran was warging but it makes sense now.

saw more than one person joke on twitter today that he was watching avengers: endgame.

irl lol

confusion over what bran was up to is pretty universal. maybe on a binge watch more people would remember the scene where NK spots a bird-warging Bran.

We watched it on a pretty good screen and I still saw somebody who looked like Grey Worm and somebody who looked like Gilly being killed.

confusion over what bran was up to is pretty universal.

From that lol reddit link:

https://preview.redd.it/kslke5z4h8v21.jpg?width=640&height=853&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=61947039dd1756787bf4b1c75adc2f59fc6b7ac5

Be funny if the next three episodes are just them all sitting down and writing a constitution.

I wish they'd had the white walkers not entirely destructible by both dragonglass and valerian steel. Like although both may be capable of blowing them to pieces it depends on their purity or something and in many cases it merely incapacitates or paralyses them more like a poison, just to keep everyone guessing.

No offense to anyone here or on twitter or whatever but sometimes I feel like I'm one of the only people who apparently is able to follow the entire episode clearly? Granted in this case the broadcast of this particular episode was apparently extremely dark for most people. Just saying sometimes I'm surprised at the confusions that come up overall.

― Evan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OK so what's your take on where the budding Sansa and Theon romance plotline goes from here

it's a love triangle with Bran now iirc

love this: https://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/?europe=true#feTYi625sZqU

I suppose if GoT were to end on a cyclically cynical note Dany could end up on the throne and then eliminate all other claimants, including Jon and Gendry-- with pregnant Arya going into hiding in Essos

How does succession work on this show? Who is actually the rightful heir at this point? Gendry because he's Robert's actual son? Not that any of them care at this point about how things 'should' go.

at this point, might makes right

according to the mashable link, the actual rightful heir, if one goes by typical rules of succession, is...cersei

actually it would be Tyrion, they kind of hand waved him away.

Jon is rightful heir, unless you accept Robert's rebellion, in which case it's Gendry.

Gendry would have to be legitimized, and seeing as Robert's in the ground, few people who have the authority AND inclination to legitimizing him.

OK so what's your take on where the budding Sansa and Theon romance plotline goes from here

― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:42 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

His heart was broken, coldly.

Gendry would have to be legitimized, and seeing as Robert's in the ground, few people who have the authority AND inclination to legitimizing him.

― Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:01 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cersei could legitimize him as her heir, which could sow a bit of discord among the happy northern family.

well, i guess never mind, cause if cersei legitimizes him, he's the king and she's not queen anymore

xxp a belly full of promise beans and spear

I've done the very smart thing of never watching game of thrones and then starting with the last 3 episodes. i enjoyed the most recent one, yes it was dumb in lots of ways but not any dumber than say a LOTR movie, and only a third of the length!

now gone back to the start and watched the first 5 episodes. i like this ned stark fellow, looking forward to following his adventures

on Twitter the term "Mary Sue" was trending due to people accusing Arya of fitting that description which obviously makes no sense and comes down to standard-issue sexism.

Here’s one thing you should know, and it’s no spoiler: the actor that plays Ned Stark also plays literally every other role!

Also GRRM has admitted that Sam is essentially his self insert character but again the show takes it a lot further.

I'm not wild about Arya either but she's spent most of the show training and then killing things. Her continuing to be good at killing things is simply not a Mary Sue situation.

I mean, if you think the level of plot armour is realistic, sure I guess. Character who can do everything and is super special + no flaws = typically where people accuse them of being a Mary Sue. And the show has barely explored anything of what all this has changed Arya to be, instead people just think it’s all cool?

"realistic"

tbh "plot armour" is kind of a silly phrase as well. I only care if characters are doing things that seem out of character or beyond their abilities, which is why Sam fending off wave after wave of zombies bugs me but Arya being a super-skilled stealth assassin doesn't.

Do these characters who can do everything typically take an entire season in training to become serial revenge murderers?

You can still like the character guys. Appreciate some commentary about my main beef with her, which is her function as a not like the other girls type character.

sure they pretty clearly set Arya and Sansa up as opposites early on

You can still like the character guys. Appreciate some commentary about my main beef with her, which is her function as a not like the other girls type character.

as I said, I don't care for the character and that is probably part of it

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/cersei-lannister-is-smarter-than-all-these-morons-1834386681

i know that article is tongue-in-cheek, but it's hard to spot the lie tbh

I didn't think it's tongue in cheek! I'm hoping that the point is that Jon and Dany are useless and Cersei did the right thing because otherwise it's especially boring.

She drinks and she knows things.

I mean, she sent Bronn to kill Tyrion and Jaime. Foolproof plan?

she knows fan service

Did Jorah ride out with the Dothraki or did he separate at that point. I didn't see how he came back if so.
I was half expecting the Dothraki to return almost immediately having changed sides. Seemed a bit wasteful of them.

he didn't ride out with them