US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

afaict the trump 2020 plan is to bet even more on facebook ads targetting old people in swing states. it's not a terrible plan, and it doesn't need the NRA.

maybe we can blow up facebook before 2020

Rod Rosenstein resigning effective 5/11. A recent exchange I had with him:

Me: You quoted Donald Trump on respecting the rule of law. Seriously?
RR: It was a good quote.
Me: Do you think he believed it?
RR: [Pause]
Me: Do you?
RR: Those were good words.

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) April 29, 2019

"Those Were Good Words" for May title.

"Both" "sides" in the NRA dispute are 100% pro-Trump, so I am not seeing how their internal turmoil could alter the electoral picture, sorry.

yeah, the good old "won't somebody think of the children" argument, always deployed in perfectly good faith

― Dan I., Monday, April 29, 2019 9:37 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh in this case it's children going without meals, not some bogus moralizing. what bad faith argument do you think is being advanced here exactly?

Teachers need to organize to survive, and organization involves potentially striking. This is obvious to teachers who rely on their jobs for their survival. I’m fucking incredulous that anyone is taking this “kids starve if teachers strike” bourgeois concern trolling bullshit seriously. How many levels of false consciousness are you dorks on

ftr, there are millions of children eating both free breakfast and free lunch at public schools these days, because there are millions of children living in households below the poverty level.

That’s true, and as mentioned upthread one of the things that teachers unions work to preserve

The Baylor University women's basketball team were apparently dragged to the White House today...they look super excited in this photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5WQVoZXkAENXj1.jpg:large

that is...wow

hahaha oh man.

there are pictures of the coach grimacing at the fast food too

that's an amazing photograph

says everything

I'm the lady in the pink.

I’m fucking incredulous that anyone is taking this “kids starve if teachers strike” bourgeois concern trolling bullshit seriously. How many levels of false consciousness are you dorks on

and the teachers in w va who packed bag lunches for their title I kids? how many levels of false consciousness are they on?

Teachers need to organize to survive, and organization involves potentially striking. This is obvious to teachers who rely on their jobs for their survival.

go fuck yourself

signed

union teacher who relies on two jobs to survive

concern trolling?

this is my day to day, you fucking gnat

xp don't think there is a single person who isn't sending a message in that picture

If you belong to a union then support union action dickhead!

Honestly they should kick you out you scab loving cretin

ok dan internationale, when I see u at the barricades ur gonna catch one to the jaw

also I’m a founding member of our schools union but sure I’ll talk to the rep abt getting myself kicked out

not sure why you guys are even arguing, you're for the most part on the same side

Kim Mulkey's grimace at the sight of a fast food spread for the Baylor Women's Basketball team's visit to the White House is worth a thousand words. pic.twitter.com/rXZ78UJ7ft

— Jay Sarkar (@ByJaySarkar) April 29, 2019

haha!

mainly i'm mad because dan is personally attacking me and mischaracterizing me.

but also we differ on our understanding of what it is to meaningfully support union action

mine has to do w. practical concerns as i am actively involved in teacher union organization

his has to do w/ unrestricted dunking rights on james comey on twitter

sheesh is that really what started this. I think i tuned in to the conversation halfway.

don't give a shit about comey

yeah. Dan I earned some FPs in the past 24 hours for sure.

dude, ILX no longer has 51 users

l;ucky for you

i’m fucking incredulous that you don’t even know why you’re giving me a hard time

i’m arguing in favor of one’s right to be a scab and for the necessity of scabs

ilx still has mods and they still have discretionary powers. you may not be able to rely on the difficulty of getting 51'ed when you shit on other ilxors' heads. just sayin'.

do mods love scabs too?

oh did that trigger you? what union are you in?

arguments like this are really disturbing

scabs are not necessary in every field, of course. i was speaking only about substitutes crossing picket lines.

It did kinda trigger me! It's a shocking thing to say!

if you’re a low skilled worker, like a fast food worker or a food processor, then yes i don’t think ppl should cross yr picket line.

teachers rely on relationships built over time, so our union is somewhat insulated against the effect of substitutes. as i said, they’re not really effective replacements.

I'm trying to understand your perspective. Do other members of your union think that scabbing is good? Would you say the things you've said in this thread out loud at a union meeting?

dan i, please shut the fuck up you sanctimonious butthole

suck my dick you cretin

(i really am trying to understand it, because it seems nonsensical to me)

xpost oh ok

i am a teacher in a union, too!!! BTWWWWWWWWW

i live in a state where i can be fired and lose my teaching certificate if i try to strike tho so maybe im not really in a union!!!!!

i said a lot more union skeptical things than that at our initial meetings like “do we even need a union right now” and you know what? in the end i still voted for the union

and when we discuss labor actions i speak for moderation and responsible use of power. and sometimes the vote doesn’t go my way! and when that happens i do what the union says. because i’m a union member: that’s my perspective

jesus, thank you for a straight answer.

suck my dick asshole