GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

I mean, that "I won" monologue makes it pretty clear where the filmmakers stand

I haven't finished the series (and wonder if I ever will?) but I appreciate your commentary flappy bird, I've always thought Lena Dunham "in the press" belied the work itself, which at the very least, made me laugh, a lot, which is an achievement

The first three seasons still resonate with me as being extremely deft portrayals of NYC 20-somethings (at least, the ones I encountered) and the bizarre mindset that that city creates in young creatives

I mean to me this is the transformation of great white hope to death to hipsters to basicbitch but we suffer them in parts of ourselves.

I don't know what specifically happened on the show about this but I know know too many smart women still caught up in it ( an I Won thing) and I get really sad that it's even a thing.

Well, I read the wiki synopses and jumped ahead to the last episode and I thought it was great

I don't really know how to type this properly but it is kind of amazing how Lena/Hannah has normalized quotidian onscreen nudebody in a way that is really uplifting. The dovetail of Mom berating Hannah into Hannah berating runaway was perfect. I liked how all the other characters who I essentially don't care about (please save me from ever having to think about an Adam/Desi/Ray/Gay Dad/Mormon Dude ever again) were just not present, that was nice

Marnie was always a total monster and it's only because Desi is an even bigger monster that we entertain the thought that she's not a monster.

I really enjoy Girls but 'child as redemption' is such bullshit

what happened with jessa/adam at the end, again?

Oh I didn't think there was a "child as redemption" thing. Hannah storms out of the house screaming "thanks mom for choosing to raise me with a homosexual father and deny me any semblance of a nuclear family", then she shows compassion for a teenage girl in trouble only to find out she's just trying to get out of her homework, and she gets mad and asks for her pants back and the girl calls her a psycho. So she goes home and Grover and crying. A running theme in this show seems to be that there is a complicated relationship between children and parents. There's a lot of "Jessa is a monster" "Marnie is a monster" about this show but I think the show very aggressively wants you to understand there are no good or bad people in the show, the characters are too complicated for that reduction.

I was pretty drunk last night and was wondering what thread I had posted on. Ha!

earlier post was about how Hannah figured it out and grew up after deciding to have a baby

holy shit this lunatic narcissism

As I planned my summer in Wales, my head filled with visions of romance, I supposed I’d do what the heroines of novels did when they crossed the pond for a new life: go to the shore to take the healing air. Meet a man and move into his stunning manor, possibly watched over by a sinister housemaid. Scurry through cobblestoned streets and into dusty bookshops, furtively pulling up the hood of my cloak. Go to a banquet and dance to piano music in a great hall. Taste gamey meats on a date with a count, then become a countess. Shoot a bow and arrow. Develop a slight accent. Images of everything from Brighton Rock to Emma, The Woman In White to Notting Hill, filled my head. There was even a little 24 Hour Party People in there. But as it would happen, my days were long, and much more Wernham Hogg than Wuthering Heights.

Spoiler: It's about Love Island

we must protect lena dunham at all costs

why would anyone print this inane article

^ probably to quietly point out how she has spent five months in the country without ever noticing that it is a different country to the one she thought she was going to

Emma is set in Surrey, England
Wuthering Heights is set in Yorkshire, England
Wernham Hogg is situated in Slough, England
24 Hour Party People is set in and very specifically about Manchester, England
Brighton Rock is set, and there may have been some clue to this, in Brighton, England
Notting Hill also drops some subtle titular hints as to its setting in Notting Hill, a district in London, England
The Woman In White is set in Cumberland, England and Hampshire, England, and London, England

also Wales has neither counts nor countesses. you can become a countess by marriage in England, but not by marrying a count, because England also does not have counts.

Has she done this before (getting things terribly wrong about the U.K)? Otherwise I'm just experiencing deja-vu and nevermind.

she's just in "britain" and is eliding - just due to ignorance, i would assume - the particularity of the member nations

just due to ignorance, i would assume

yes

this is the point

she literally can't be bothered to look out of her own head for 0.5 seconds to realise that she is thinking about a different country, even when she is writing 9,000 words about how ignorant she is due to making unthinking assumptions

the particularity of the member nations

she's eliding a bunch of European nations too

sounds like you find her annoying sic

It’s dumb spacefiller but would be hard-pushed to find it annoying or lunatic or... anything, really

common or garden yank ignorance wrt these islands is hardly in the top 1000 of lena dunham's crimes of discourse

sounds like you find her annoying sic

I watched and mostly liked the first four or so seasons of Girls

I love Lena and everything she's ever done and said

:D

She is a flawless human being and an inspiration to everyone

idk im tired at work it's slow as shit this is pure unfiltered sleep deprived flappy bird hours

New feature film (Sharp Stick) debuts at Sundance (online) this weekend.

Enjoyed this more in retrospect than while watching it. If the strengths of Girls made that show worth watching for you (great casting, honest moments, good dialogue, complicated sex), this one has those as well – as well as (as with Solondz et al) the feeling of an individual rather than a studio deciding how to provoke in ways that match her personal truths.

What’s different is that this protagonist feels much, much younger than the Girls women. Not just sheltered. And only a throwaway line of dialogue establishing her as 26 keeps this from feeling like it’s about someone mid-teens.

I love Girls. An amazing show all the way through.

Great post:

Emma is set in Surrey, England
Wuthering Heights is set in Yorkshire, England
Wernham Hogg is situated in Slough, England
24 Hour Party People is set in and very specifically about Manchester, England
Brighton Rock is set, and there may have been some clue to this, in Brighton, England
Notting Hill also drops some subtle titular hints as to its setting in Notting Hill, a district in London, England
The Woman In White is set in Cumberland, England and Hampshire, England, and London, England

also Wales has neither counts nor countesses. you can become a countess by marriage in England, but not by marrying a count, because England also does not have counts.

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, July 31, 2019

finally watching season 5 and finding it frequently funny tbh

rewatching this series for the first time since it originally ran and shocked at how good it is, but also how it seems to be from another century entirely, despite only being 12 years old.

funny to look back at the reactions people had toward these characters, who are simply human.

I loved this show from start to finish.

Even with the passage of time and eating ass becoming a meme, the kitchen butt motorboat still seems pretty out there for a non-Cinemax show.

Empire had the blowjob bib but American TV is regressing when it comes to lol wtf sex scenes.