Avengers: Infinity War

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sorry I guess it's Far From the Homecomening.

akm, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

if all Parker’s friends got snapped out of existence too they wouldn’t have aged

“Satan is not a fucking pogo stick!”, he howled. (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link

good thread

Sometimes it's fun to remember that 101 Dalmatians probably sold more tickets than every blockbuster of the past decade

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

Enjoyed this, though the Joe Biden campaign ad ending was pretty annoying. Might've been saved if Agent Carter had grabbed America's ass just before the credits.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link

I sensed during Ant-Man's return to empty streets that the filmmakers had seen Testament, so that was neat.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

good thread

Particularly the bit where someone links to some supporting evidence that doesn't support it at all.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link

It must be annoying being Captain Marvel if her super power is that wherever she goes, women suddenly appear.

(though the sound of the barrel being scraped to get a screen-full undercuts the point a little)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

There was... a lot of fan service

Having viewed a late showing I was too tired to notice if anything particularly interesting was going on in the giant battle scene because the screen was like some post-apocalyptic Where’s Waldo

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

I guess the only thing was introduction of Pepper? Who, tbh, I first mistook for Captain Marvel in armor. And hammer payoff? That was great.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

In the end, the biggest hero was Jon Favreau, for letting a small child help him through grief issues.

The small kid from Iron Man 3 was the taller kid in the funeral with everyone at the end - though I couldn't place the two people off on the right as the camera turned left.

I started crying when I saw the bench at the end.

Pepper was in some of the previous films, Josh.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

Sky’s the limit I guess:

y 10:14 PM post: And with a snap, Avengers: Endgame is swelling, just as expected. Industry estimates as of last night for Friday stand at $158.3M (including $60M record previews), which is $39.2M more than Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ opening and single day record of $119.1M. And as for the weekend, this morning the range is between $349M-$356M off the widest theatrical release ever of 4,662. Saturday is expected to ease between -30% and -35% for a take between $102M-$110M.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

i think he meant pepper in iron man armor

my son had to tell me who the kid was at the end (harley from iron man 3? I don't remember that at all)

cobie smulders was up there getting a wordless cameo.

akm, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link

I couldn’t place the kid from Iron Man 3. Nice callback

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I meant Pepper in armor. I miss things, but not usually characters that have appeared prominently in other movies.

Speaking of which, who was missing at the funeral? Clark Gregg?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

Assuming the Black Widow movie is going to be a prequel/origin story?

And wondering what they do with the Scarlet Witch & Vision show with Vision currently dead.

groovypanda, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

I thought it was a nice touch that the line that kicked off the appearance of public super heroes, Stark announcing “I am Iron Man” at the end of the first MCU movie, is the line that ends the action in this one, bookending the entire thing

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

Yes, Pepper Potts in an Iron Man suit, as in Iron Man 3.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link

I totally forgot about her in the suit there. Did she fight? I just remember like 300 iron men flying around an abandoned factory fighting fire-breathing ... Iraq war vets?

I told one of my kids that while a good memory of the other films was not necessary, the better you remember them and the more familiar you are with them the better much of the fan-service payoff in this is. But really, it's the time travelin' "look how far we've come" final film in a long running series of overlapping characters, of course it's going to be fan-service-y.

Re: Black Widow, Captain America had to put all the cosmic cubes back where they got them, right? Which means giving it back to Dead Red Skull? Which can mean all sorts of stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

They’d return it to the planet, right? He didn’t possess it, he was just stuck as its sentry

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

I think that's just going to be glossed over tbh.

The fight scene at the end wasn't best served by everyone having to have a turn, though I understand that's one of the points of the movie.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

But yes, Captain America showing up to return it only to find the Red Skull would be messed up

There were a lot of things that could be nitpicked and I appreciate there were unexplained things all over the place. Hopefully that doesn’t mean we get a spin-off to “solve” every plot piece, though.

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link

I saw somewhere that the Black Widow movie was always intended to be a origin/prequal, and therefore it may or may not have ScarJo.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link

Since we're in spoilers, the highlights were Ruffalo Hulk (particularly when he's trying to blend in as the OG Hulk) and Lebowski Thor.

Also I can hear some of Captain America fandom setting shit on fire about the Straightwashing of Steve Rogers

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

"Straightwashing"?

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

The current state of Hulk was really bleak! The jokes about Thor got more laughs in the theater and his status was more fleshed out, but Hulk being a shadow of both his former selves acting like he’s a mascot.. sheesh

Thor’s apartment shack was a gift to everyone who liked the short film about his time in Australia with a roommate and I loved that

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link

I've already heard the term "Thorbowski."

Re: Vision, I suppose Captain America could have just returned the stone to him, right? Anyway, like I said, lamp shading and hand waving at the same time seems like a good way to avoid these headaches, there's really no reason they need to be worked out logically.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

I kind of consider that* to be a different level of nitpicking than the more 'practical' questions, like does this mean that half of Peter Parker's class is now college-aged? And is the next Spider-man film set in 2023?

Or as my girl, who is both smarter and grimmer than me, pointed out - unless the Earth was producing twice as much food as it needed 'just in case', Thanos is about to be proved right.

*but this distinction may only exist in my head

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

thanos wiped out half of all living things, which presumably includes crops and livestock, so it’ll all work out fine *cough*

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

i mean in that they all returned to life, one assumes

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

that was the implication of them looking out the window and seeing birds on the tree outside avengers hq where there were none

mh, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

"Clark Gregg?"

isn't he dead? I can't keep any of that shit straight. I think he's dead on Agents of Shield, which I don't watch.

No one knows what the deal with the Black Widow movie is. I believe ScarJo is confirmed to be in it. So is someone named Florence Pugh who is a lot younger and looks an awful lot like her to me; what I read was that she was playing opposite her but I could see her playing a younger version.

akm, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link

I was sitting next to a bunch of teen super fans and one of them lost their fuckin mind when cap picked up mjolnir

gbx, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link

Like, if you are going to do that at all in this movie, that's pretty much the time you are going to do it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

just got out of the movie. more thoughts later, but greatly amused that Thor is now full on Australian.

Roz, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

audience i saw it with clapped loudly at two bits: cap picking up mjolnir, and avengers assembling.

Roz, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

One of the trailers before was for Men in Black International, so I assume Hemsworth has not gone full Bale / Phoenix.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link

Had he not said the latter yet? It was a weird time to do it, because he waited until after they had assembled. Then again, he was staring at Thanos, so maybe he didn't notice them all lined up around and behind him. "Avengers! Asse ... oh, hey guys, didn't see you there. Let's get him!"

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link

While I thought the Thor stuff was maaaaaybe not as funny as it thought it was, I do absolutely love how they kept him like that for the whole film. No magic "restore me to my former glory!" moment, the closest he gets is braiding his beard.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link

Just nuts:

https://deadline.com/2019/04/avengers-endgame-breakeven-profit-after-opening-weekend-box-office-marvel-1202603237/

With an estimated global opening weekend on course for $1.1 billion, Disney Avengers: Endgame will make what most successful superhero movies earn in a theatrical lifetime. At this level, film finance experts tell Deadline that the Anthony and Joe Russo-directed sequel will near cash breakeven tomorrow on Sunday, which is unheard of for a major studio tentpole during its opening weekend. Last year, the duo’s Avengers: Infinity War clicked into profitability after ten days.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

yikes

i hope that means natalie portman is in line for a nice performance bonus

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

Impressive! What is the Avatar total at?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

Answer: 2.88 billion USD.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

Er, 2.788, to be accurate.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

From three days ago:

A $1.132 billion global launch (more than the current $1.091 billion global cume of Captain Marvel), followed by a 2.4645x multiplier (with the obvious caveat that different territories will react to the film differently), will get the MCU finale to $2.789 billion worldwide, or just over the $2.7875 billion gross of Avatar. Yes, I’m rounding up a little for coherence, but that’s the gist of it. Either the fourth Avengers movie opens 36% higher around the world this weekend, or it opens pretty close to $1.1 billion and turns out to be a leggier blockbuster. Heck, it’ll need a similar multiplier and an $887 million-plus debut just to top Titanic’s unadjusted $2.1875 billion global cume.

So, is Avengers: Endgame on track to be the second-biggest global grosser of all time? Well, maybe, but it’ll still need something resembling legs to go along with a likely monstrous opening weekend. For the record, even a projected $950 million launch (yes, that’s optimistic) coupled by a similar multiplier would give the film “just” $2.341 billion, or nearly half-a-billion dollars behind Avatar. Heck, an $900 million launch followed by a 2.33x global multiplier (think Fate of the Furious) won’t even get it past $2.1 billion. None of this counts as a “bar for success,” but it just shows that not even Earth’s Mightiest Heroes may be a match for the self-proclaimed King of the World.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/04/24/avengers-endgame-titanic-avatar-james-cameron-star-wars-jurassic-world-box-office/#f3ab3435f093

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link

global... cume, huh

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link

jesus, so the cost w/ marketing of this thing was over a billion dollars

Simon H., Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link

u gotta spend money to make money babey!

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

think of the caterers

j., Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link

I saw it reported that marketing was over $200 for this one, and I bet the film cost $400 to make. I really don't see how marketing and budget hits a billion unless they are talking about the cost for both IW and Endgame together, which is how I saw it reported at one point.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

March 1, 2017:

Pinewood Atlanta Studios is currently hosting a film with the largest production budget ever, Chick-fil-A CEO and Pinewood Atlanta Studios co-owner Dan Cathy announced at an African American Film Critics Association luncheon Feb. 28.

"We now have on the lot down there now the largest film production ever with a $1 billion budget," Cathy said.

Due to studio agreements Cathy could not name the film, but Marvel's "Avengers: Infinity War" and its sequel are filming back-to-back at Pinewood.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link


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