the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

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the Cult of Eastwood continues to perplex me tbh

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

Like, yeah, I hate monopolies too, but I don’t see how Netflix/Apple/Spotify funneling everything through three tech companies is GOOD, but Disney breaking up that model is BAD

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

Isn’t this thread about how both are bad

milkshake chuk (wins), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

well, yeah

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

ppl can feel free to defend either development if they feel like it!

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

If Disney is gonna keep it real and post like all 57 Walt Disney Animation Studios (minus Song of the South, obv) and the 20 Pixar joints, and the Simpsons run in the correct aspect ratio and not do selective releases from the "vault" ... I ... wouldn't be mad at any of that?

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

they can re-up Song of the South but only if they replace the audio with Bob Iger saying "you are a bad person" over and over

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

I can't find any pieces yet on what this merger will mean for the accessibility of the 20th Century Fox film roster down the line

maybe because you don't need to look down the line? Disney already cancelled nearly all bookings of 20th films last week. basically if somewhere already has a print they're allowed to pay to show it, but you can't screen anything from the catalogue otherwise

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 08:05 (four years ago) link

There seems to be some dispute over whether that's a permanent issue or a temporary legal hiccup.

Simon H., Saturday, 27 April 2019 08:19 (four years ago) link

Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link

Steven Spielberg’s BFG remake
Steven Spielberg’s Tintin remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Horse remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Of The Worlds remake
Steven Spielberg’s Peter Pan remake

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

Hook is a sequel not a remake

milkshake chuk (wins), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

it’s a remake of the sequel to Peter Pan, except with the plot of Peter Pan

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link

i don't consider adapted screenplays to be remakes but i get your point.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

the first West Side Story was an adapted screenplay too! I only named ones that had also previously been adapted into films, most of his shit is based on books, whether fiction or non-fiction

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

also previously been adapted into films, other media

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

(Peter Pan was adapted into a book and several films, War Horse was a remake of the stage adaptation AIUI, all the Tintins in the Spielberg movie had been TV cartoons twice and one had been a feature, War Of The Worlds has been eleventy-billion movies and plays and radio shows and shadow puppet performances, BFG had been a comic strip and a play and the 1989 Cosgrove Hall joint with David Jason)

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link

it's what happened. people prized the convenience of streaming over quality/choices of DVD and here we are.

― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 26, 2019 4:40 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. When I tell friends I still get Netflix DVDs through the mail they react with astonishment, as if I told them I've decided to give up electricity. This weekend somebody saw a red envelope on my coffee table, pointed to it and literally said "Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!" All of these same friends complain about there not being enough things on streaming that they like, and say things like "I watched 3 seasons of (show x) this week, it was just meh." Reminds me of the Onion op-ed from years ago along the lines of "Can you believe the shit they force me to watch on television?"

One Eye Open, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

kind of off-topic, but sometimes I'll start on a Netflix series and realize quickly that it's diverting but not actually good; I find at this point the most time-effective approach is to look up what happens on Wikipedia or a set of recaps, then move onto something else.

Simon H., Monday, 29 April 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

"Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!"

lol

difficult listening hour, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

One of the absolute best things about moving to the Los Angeles area is there's still independent video stores out here

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Toronto still has a couple, shockingly.

Simon H., Monday, 29 April 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

hosted the crew of ghost-hunting show the other day while they exploited local culture for the entertainment of people whose crippling brain damage has left them with nothing better to watch and me and the sound guy in the dead ringers shirt reminisced about portland's MOVIE MADNESS-- still there!

difficult listening hour, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Gotta say, for a time when streaming media is in the ascendant, boutique physical media companies are totally killing it. Like if you're inclined to blame Netflix et al for snuffing out the home video market, you're neither paying attention nor supporting the current embarrassment of blu-ray riches with your dollar votes.

xpost -- wait hold on, that's quite a setup.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link

i didn't know which to envy more: their remote video monitor (wireless splitscreen from multiple cameras!) or their veil-piercing communications apparatus. anyway, turns out my theater has night marchers

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5-n8e3XsAEIVpd.jpg

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

bully

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

Untitled boot stamping on a human face forever

milkshake chuk (wins), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

wow, so every disney is getting a live action remake huh
Major headline for me is that Nimona is gonna be a big big deal and that Noelle Stevenson is hella rich

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Maybe it's just me but feels like they weren't really trying when they settled on these movie titles.

Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Man all four people who give any fucks about Avatar have gotta be STOKED.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

lmao that Cameron is apparently shooting the 4 Avatar sequels (5 is penned in for 2027) concurrently, meaning even if the first one underperforms they'll still have 3 left to promote

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

I'm a little surprised that Disney hasn't pulled back on the reins with that impending disaster.

Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

TBF, both titanic and avatar were hailed as an impending disaster and then become the biggest things in the history of movies so it's tough to bet against him until he loses
i also think he will lose this time btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

I reeeeeeeeally need to be convinced that Avatar 2-4 will be a disaster beyond Very Online people saying variations of "no one remembers this"

Disney World built a whole themed area for it, it's the second biggest-selling Blu Ray of all time after FROZEN and I haven't seen any evidence that America won't gladly slurp down every PG-13 fan service sequel save, like, "Wow, Solo only made 393 million dollars"

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

Also, it's been so long, I can see them re-releasing Avatar 1 in theaters

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

There's a whole Cirque du Soliel touring act about Avatar

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

following "the rider", i will be down for the choe zhao Eternals movie but boy am i having a hard time imagining how that will pan out

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

I love Disney so much and it bums me out that all the attention is going towards stuff I don't care about: Marvel movies/Star Wars/live action remakes.

Get me an immersive Arendelle with Ilsa's ice castle!

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Ilsa's ice castle

sounds pretty dark

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:57 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not so. Feige has already telegraphed their intention to continue milking that particular cash cow.

Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

― mh, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 2:00 PM (forty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean the Pirates of the Carribbean franchise made $4.5 billion, so that can write off a few of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnlMvollAkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32Law7K-b8

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

IIRC Disney approached Cameron about building an Avatar attraction because they had lost out on Harry Potter several years prior, and at the time Avatar was only two years old. Had they waited another year, the Lucasfilm acquisition would have taken place and they might have gone straight for a Star Wars attraction.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

I don't think Avatar 2-4 (or 5?) will have the same kind of success as the first one, but I doubt they are going to lose money.

I mean, nobody seems to like those Transformers movies either and they made a ton of money. Online discourse is really only a tiny fraction of public opinion.

silverfish, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

"I remember how excited I was the first time my dad took me to see an Avatar movie, I'm so happy to be able to share that special moment with my own children!"

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Also, like, outside of a theme park attraction and Blu-Ray sales, what's its place in popular culture? Do people still talk about Avatar a lot, or learn Navi or whatever? It may have made money but it seems to have left no cultural footprint whatsoever otherwise.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

My son's introduction to avatar was the avatar ride in Disney World. I could totally see him wanting to see these movies just because of that.

silverfish, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

is that simpsons thing real? holy fuck.

https://i.imgur.com/PuqtXQV.jpg

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/PuqtXQV.jpg

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

fucking hell, the joke is that there's no joke i suppose

the whole business of dressing up characters from one chunk of intellectual property as characters from another chunk of intellectual property is so painfully hollow and meaningless. like even as fanservice - okay, ralph's the Hulk and Milhouse is Hawkeye and Lisa's teacher is Gamora. would it really make any difference if Comic Book Guy was the Hulk and Hans Moleman was Hawkeye and Lisa was Gamora? it's like a Colorforms Dress-Up Set; anything can be combined with anything, but what statement results? what's the commentary, what's the "joke"?

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

bet you’re fun at halloween

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

tbf, moleman is moleman so they got that right i guess.

the whole business of dressing up characters from one chunk of intellectual property as characters from another chunk of intellectual property is so painfully hollow and meaningless

Would you say it's a New Jersey?

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

peter-griffin-dressed-as-darth-vader-saying-do-not-want.gif

ok i'll give you Moleman/Moleman

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

but as for Halloween, what do the two things have to do with each other? these aren't people coming up with costumes, and nobody in the image even looks like they're having fun being in the costumes.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

they surely could've thought a bit about connecting the archetypes rather than going Black character=Black character. Explain another reason beyond melanin why Doc Hibbard is Falcon.

Explain why any of this is happening at all. You can't. No one can.

I mean yes, $$$, but otherwise why

Yep. At the risk of being booted off of WB's A-List (emails promoting the corporation'$ late$t product)...a week or so ago I got an email inviting suggestions for WB's 2023 centennial. (My idea was lavish restoration of one or more of their surviving 1923 films, and if that does happen...I might as well have requested a 4K Director's Cut of The Devils.)

One idea the survey floated was crossovers of Animaniacs with assorted other WB properties (Friends was the only IP that stuck in my mind). And the forthcoming Space Jam sequel is already crossover city--I saw King Kong in one ad, and paying just a little more attention would probably have revealed other familiar figures.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 8 July 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link

twas synergy killed the beast

DC could have cut that post after the first sentence. If you’re doing a Simpsons Halloween episode set piece you can have some sort of meaningful joke (The Shining parody was a total lay-up, really) but there’s… nothing here

I didn’t hate the pre-canceled Family Guy (what was it, two seasons?) necessarily, but the premise to me was “The Simpsons is coasting and we’re going to show how parody is broken now by making it lazy and spiteful” and then they revived it without changing the format and making it an even lazier take on the same crap.

So much of this crap I just sit here wondering who it’s for, and then wonder if my sad take that people just want to feel happy they recognize a cultural reference that every single person watching will get is a sales point for the producers, audience, someone

mh, Thursday, 8 July 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link

The crossover stuff is def money-driven and "synergistic" but I do think many fans genuinely love it. Probably why it gets done so much. I loved the Simpsons/Critic crossover as a kid even though Matt Groening spoke out against it

Vinnie, Thursday, 8 July 2021 04:03 (two years ago) link

that seems so lazy and low-stakes in retrospect! it also seemed like a weird tonal crossover at the time, but today it’d be just.. this week’s episode

mh, Thursday, 8 July 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link

I don't think my brain, or the brains of many fans now, are doing much beyond "I like A, I like B, A + B = !!!". it's primal

Vinnie, Thursday, 8 July 2021 05:50 (two years ago) link

the Simpsons already had its own comic book universe in radioactive man and fallout boy etc. this just seems like that but without the trademark avoidance dance

koogs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 07:36 (two years ago) link

In fairness, the Loki thing is 4:30 minutes long, and the 'plot' finishes after 2:30 - the credits has a bunch more colorforms - Comic Book Guy is Thanos! The other Simpsons are Guardians of the Galaxy! It would be fine on Tumblr.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 8 July 2021 09:29 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

“The Cinemateca Brasileira houses and protects the entire memory of Brazilian Cinema in its archives, from the first documentaries shot in the early 20th century to the Cinema Novo masterpieces. In its 45,000 titles, the Cinemateca holds a register of our national identity in construction, of our culture being redefined through time.”

https://core-cms.bfi.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/responsive/public/1440/0/0/2020-08/cinemateca-brasileira-masters-vault-2020.jpg

“Until recently, the Cinemateca Brasileira was considered a center of excellence for film restoration, thanks to its personnel and technical capabilities.”

Brazil’s film archive is facing wipeout, 4 August 2020

Cinemateca Brasileira, the largest audiovisual institution in South America, under threat by Bolsonaro government
The government has fired all 41 technical staff, who safeguard an important collection of more than 250,000 works

Gabriella Angeleti, 27th August 2020 23:34 BST

The imminent tragedy that so many have been trying to prevent by speaking out on the dangerous precariousness of the Brazilian Cinematheque is now a reality — BRAZILIAN CINEMATHEQUE IS ON FIRE as reported by the local media #SOScinematecabrasileira #cinematecaisburning pic.twitter.com/IMhnH1IlaZ

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 29, 2021

Just this past Sat (7/24) the fired workers of #SOSCinematecaBrasileira were protesting on Avenida Paulista, São Paulo’s main avenue, to alert everyone about the dangers facing Cinemateca — another call that went unheeded pic.twitter.com/YVcQy1YMUN

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

Firemen told @GloboNews that one of the Cinemateca Brasileira warehouse rooms that caught fire was storing films from the 1920s pic.twitter.com/LVBEwoCuOE

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

Remember the time when the gov. sent federal police to FORCE THE WORKERS OUT of the Cinemateca and to take over and lock it up https://t.co/BZI9b4hbI4 pic.twitter.com/XpG0AvKQfJ

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

They were there for months without receiving pay, taking care of the archives https://t.co/uGBFN0oRuU pic.twitter.com/Q2L5LOA1uP

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 30 July 2021 05:54 (two years ago) link

good lord

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 July 2021 08:41 (two years ago) link

SF Museum Of Modern Art has axed their film program, 86 years after beginning and five years after renovating their theatre, due to decreased attendance in the last year.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 2 August 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

Damn.

Nhex, Monday, 2 August 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

Huh! I wonder why people stopped going to movies last year? There must be a reason. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 August 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link

Torrenting as pure responsibility

How it started How it’s going pic.twitter.com/G7LD8DshPM

— elevator to the giallos (@mxy_mabuse) July 7, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Great news for Disney but tough night for Disney and Disney https://t.co/WmBLF3RBwe

— Ben Joseph (@jenboseph) December 18, 2021

rob, Sunday, 19 December 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

lol
actually feel sorry for Nightmare Alley

Nhex, Sunday, 19 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

The irony is that Del Toro's Blade 2 was one of the first-wave Marvel adaptations to get critical acclaim as well as box office. Same year as Raimi's first Spider-man, iirc. So in a round about way, Disney owes Del Toro.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 December 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

True shit. Just got an email from my theater asking if I wanted to cancel my tickets for NIGHTMARE ALLEY because they cancelled every other show to free up the screen for more Spider-Man showings. pic.twitter.com/tpdfD7VjqG

— Reyna Cervantes (@Jfcdoomblade) December 19, 2021

dark end of the st. maud (sic), Sunday, 19 December 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

sad lol

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 19 December 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

what's truly demoralizing here is that even being the second film adaptation of preexisting literary source material isn't unoriginal enough to go up against the second multiple-spider-men movie of the past three years

rob, Sunday, 19 December 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

1 2 MCU

Blue Suede Q*bert (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

i got an email last week alerting me that A NEW DEVICE HAS BEEN USED TO LOGIN TO YOUR DISNEY ACCOUNT, which i completely assumed was a phishing email because i have never created a "disney account" and my old espn account was (is?) tied to a different email address. then i looked at it and realized it was sent because i logged in to the national geographic website to read an article on my phone, so due to a magazine subscription i've had since the '90s, i guess i now have a disney account. i mean, i slightly prefer natl geo content being controlled by the mouse rather than rupert murdoch, but it would be nice if neither did.

circles, Thursday, 13 April 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link


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