US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

fake news obv

I think a lot of people are overplaying their hand on the "very fine people" comment since the transcript doesn't really look so bad...its more to do with the occasion and timing of the remark, given Trump's one job was "don't make it look like you sympathize with the Nazis". he's said and done hundreds of horrible things since.

^otm. Even Trump isn't dumb enough to publicly state he thinks some neo-nazis are very fine people.

that is what he did! the people there "just" out of concern for the monument are fictitious. or are we going to start acting like "heritage" is *not* a gigantic code word scam for white supremacist revanchism?

Maria Butina gets 18 months, deportation after time served.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/maria-butina-sentencing/index.html

that is what he did!

No, that's what you and many others perceived it as. Yes, he really thinks those people exist, not fictitious. I don't think any of them are "very fine people", but I also don't think the venn diagram of Neo-Nazis and people who get butthurt over Confederate statues is a perfect circe.

He meant to say (as of this afternoon, rather) that he aimed his comment at statue people, but in 2017 the marches were happening, and, sorry, there's no other way to interpret it and his subsequent policy (including his Justice Dept's refusal to seek charges for the white terrorist yesterday) as anything other than endorsing white supremacy.

are we really arguing about the intentions of a Gila monster with the brain of dry scrambled eggs

but it got condensed to "Trump called neo-nazis very fine people". and that just allows him and his followers to go "see?? more fake news! he clearly made a distinction!"

It sort of sucks but somehow there are people who have a long well-documented history of being absolutely foul and then somehow what really ends up sticking is some short phrase taken out of context which is quite possibly the 300th worst thing they ever said and which, were it the only foul thing they'd ever said, could reasonably be explained away as tone-deafness -- the quote that finally got steve king thrown off his committees was kind of like that, he really didn't say "what's so bad about white supremacy," except the thing is he kind of DID say that, over and over again, as a core part of his political identity, for many years, just not in those exact words, but no Republican said boo about it because it's only the lousy-sounding bite that forces then to briefly pretend to care.

but it got condensed to "Trump called neo-nazis very fine people". and that just allows him and his followers to go "see?? more fake news! he clearly made a distinction!"

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger),

So? They do this anyway.

right, I mean Trump has basically coasted on the fact that you can twist any soundbite or fact about him to sound a little more innocuous, and by the way how biased are you for even suggesting he'd mean it that way? even confessing to sexual assault on camera (and bragging about it, no less!) didn't kill him. I think Dems would be wise to focus a little less on all the dumb shit this guy says - he's essentially senile, who gives a shit???

People's brains retain information in ways that have no special regard for accuracy or truth, but mostly relate to how that information will help them avoid pain or experience pleasure. Because for most people politics reside at the periphery of those concerns, the amount of attention they give to fine verbal distinctions made by politicians is close to nil. ILXors on the whole have more idle mental capacity than the average person, so we amuse our brains with such matters. In summation, we are freaks, but very nice, funny and intelligent freaks.

ILXors on the whole have more idle mental capacity than the average person

in that they have easier jobs, maybe

^ a sound and testable hypothesis, but not worth the effort of testing it.

I'm reading student essays with an excess of passive voice and a habit of referring to sources by first name.

referring to sources by first name.

GD: idk abt neo-nazis and confederate statue whiners in general but the statement is about people *attending the right-wing white supremacist nazi rally* so i think the venn diagram is pretty fucking circular.

also yeah confederate statue whiners in general are on the nazi spectrum and are not very fine people, tho some may genuinely be just confused and misled teenagers writing essays about how they agree with Donald that heritage is important, IOW they don't know anything. but that's not who trump was speaking about.

I regret to inform you there are high capacity schadenfreude magazines in this story https://t.co/Yj7OcLagH3 via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 26, 2019

oh man don’t make me choose sides here guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHA4-5N5AzA

This is absurd.

BREAKING VIDEO
Iowan confronts @ChuckGrassley about GOP's health care repeal “threatening her life”

His defense? Must see TV.

He says not to believe anything they're trying to do (repeal bills, overturn lawsuits) and just trust him that none will happenhttps://t.co/8YOrsyDO8I

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) April 25, 2019

I can't tell if Grassley thinks he's getting one over on the audience or if can't even comprehend the meaning of his own words.

Sad lol even the person with the camera can barely keep quiet.

good morning!

No it’s not! It’s not morning!
“Then why did you vote for the ‘it is morning right now, it is a good morning Act’ 7 times?”
That act was never going to pass

the north will rise again

or will he

Nope, he’s not running for NRA president again, he’s sinking

usually the answer to “is that republican craven or just really dumb” is “yes”

We will never be rid of Reagan-era charlatans. Never.

godDAMN will someone please hit this dork with a 20' U-Haul truck

#FiveJobsIveHad 1. Grocery store clerk
2. Vocal soloist for church weddings
3. Chemist
4. Strike-replacement high school teacher
5. FBI Director, interrupted

— James Comey (@Comey) April 27, 2019

i like the replies

yeah the replies were cathartic

‘strike-replacement high school teacher’

so... a scab? this fuckin’ guy

oh, i see the replies have covered that extensively - good work twitter

‘strike-replacement high school teacher’

so... a scab? this fuckin’ guy

otm, who would ever do that, let alone admit to that

a republican cop

for some reason it just occurred to me that a lot of people probably agreed with reagan when he fired all of the striking air traffic controllers. christ what an asshole, and at least 1/3 of the country was probably like 'yer damn right'

disclosing unnecessary information in a self-owning way is kind of james comey's whole thing

at least 1/3 of the country was probably like 'yer damn right'

allow me to introduce my parents and 90% of extended family

Hey it's me, Swing Voter, I value civility and open-mindedness and likability more than anything else, so if the Democratic candidate doesn't exhibit enough of those qualities to meet my liking, I will vote for literally the biggest lying piece of bigoted shit in the world.

— A.R. Moxon (read pinned tweet) (@JuliusGoat) April 28, 2019

We will never be rid of Reagan-era charlatans. Never.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, April 27, 2019 3:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all men must die, except maybe kissinger

/‘strike-replacement high school teacher’

so... a scab? this fuckin’ guy/

otm, who would ever do that, let alone admit to that

otoh not sure why he’d go out of his way to point that out on twitter and i know frothing in indignation is the point of this thread so carry on i suppose

You can just not have school imo

Oh? Where will my students get ⅔ of their meals?

Should they just play in front of crack houses all day, or stay inside and watch tv?

you sound like a well meaning twitter left dilettante who knows nothing abt the realities of schooling imo

sorry abt shots fired but no, you can’t just not have school if you care abt kids

frothing in indignation is the point of this thread so carry on i suppose

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