Taking Sides: NEW ORDER VS RUSH?

'A Forest' is such a great song that New Order managed to get not one, but two songs out of it, and both are on Low-Life. 'Sunrise' mimics the intro without using the same chord progression, and 'This Time of Night' actually uses the chord progression. 'Sunrise' is fantastic, but not a patch on 'A Forest' ...

The same with 'All the Way' and 'Just Like Heaven', they're both great, but 'Just Like Heaven' has the edge.

But nobody does Rush better than Rush!

Chord progressions are chord progressions, lots of them sound the same because lots of them are the same. I don't know why but I can't really imagine New Order sitting round listening to the Cure.

Well, they were both around at the same time so I'm willing to bet that they were aware of and listened to each other.

I'd like to think that if Ian Curtis had lived, he would have enjoyed the idea of being in The Cure.

Possibly. Robert Smith was a big fan of Joy Division, that's pretty obvious.

here's a Cure cover of Love Will Tear Us Apart, to stay relentlessly on-topic itt

OK, I have now listened to one Rush song. It was called "Tom Sawyer" (the first thing YouTube threw at me). It's one of the worst things I've ever heard, amazing really how it combines so much to hate. My knowledge of both bands still rather lopsided but fuck it, I'm voting.

listening to one song by a band and voting is such bullshit I gotta say

"well now I know all I need to know about that!!!" congratulations, you're the spitting image of a Trump voter

It is one of their most famous songs though.

the stakes are exactly the same too, so I feel suitably chided for having heard no Rush songs but voting New Order

I did hear Mix Master Mike scratching the drums from Tom Sawyer on 32kbps live streams when he joined the Beastie Boys in 1998 though

It's more like seeing only that clip of Trump mocking a disabled person and knowing everything there is to know.

If you hate "Tom Sawyer" and love New Order, it's probably fair for you to safely cast your vote tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9kYUhd7e6Y

I haven't heard that album in 20+ years but it came back into my head in an instant.

Re: Robert Smith being a fan of the Cure, he apparently booked them as a support act back in '79

https://www.spin.com/articles/cure-lol-tolhurst-peter-hook-memoir-bollocks-sell-out

I'm sure Robert Smith was a huge Cure fan!

lol whoops

I rarely listen to peak-prog Rush, but I put on "A Farewell to Kings" today and thought, man, this is awesome, how can it not be Rush? But then I put on "Low-Life," which I haven't heard in who knows how long, and it kicked ass (I stand by "Emo Kraftwerk"). So ... back to square one.

lol, Willl.

Rush, easily.

Now, Rush vs. Joy Division... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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This thread got me thinking about what a Rush cover of "The Perfect Kiss" would sound like. I can kind of hear it in my mind. You know Peart would be hitting all sorts of blocks and bells on the intro. I'd think it would work and might not be as unlikely a cover. I know Rush liked Ultravox quite a bit or have seen them referenced in articles.

It would work in the imaginary split 7" between the two groups. I have no idea what Rush tune New Order could do at this point but they probably would have been able to give a nice 80s tech pop sound to some of Rush's stuff like that. Can't see NO much acknowledging Rush's existence.

A synthetic disco version of A Farewell To Kings, with disaffected, nonchalant vocals would be nice.

I like New Order, but I think Rush are about as talented as it gets. I don't love all their stuff, but their musicianship is undeniable.

re: the New Order vs. The Cure discussion above, the two songs from those artists that remind me the most of each other are Your Silent Face and Plainsong, they both have a kind of downcast magnificence

New Order performing Your Silent Face at the Berkeley Community Theater was one of the most amazing live music experiences I've ever had

New Order could totally do one of the power ballads from Power Windows. Like Grand Designs or Middletown Dreams or Emotion Detector.

But not as well.

They could, but it's too on the nose. I'd rather hear them interpret one of the more metal/ren faire sounding tunes.

I knew opening this thread would be a mistake.

ultimately I don't really think these bands are comparable

they're not anything alike, so it's just...which aesthetic / songwriting / performance style do you prefer

Oh c'mon, New Order's whole sound was clearly an attempt to capture the electronic majesty of Signals.

I liked Signals but New Order had a much more thrilling homemade emotional sound to me

I knew opening this thread would be a mistake.

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98!

Bottles of beer on the wall?

108

Sorry, I'm sleep deprived and bitchy.

Got a feeling New Order would beat a lot of bands on ILM

Why does ILM not like to rock?

Perfect Kiss video version rocks harder than every Rush song combined

Barney certainly rocks those shorts.

B-but...

http://www.rushoddities.com/rush-oddities/images/geddy-alex-tennis-73-full.jpg

bands in shorts poll imminent, a certain ratio's gonna win though

I expect no less from a bunch of Canadian goofballs. New Order in shorts is more of a scandal.

70/80s was an era of rampant short shorts wearing