Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

ennhhh I'm sure Matt is right that there's a class of canny centrists who are happy to have Warren around not for the policies she supports (which they abhor or don't care about) but as a policy-wonk cudgel to beat Bernie with / divide the left flank. whether Ezra is one of those or not would require a knowledge of Ezra's inner life I don't care to have.

also Bernie's answer was fine/typically on-message but the question was another lame gotcha variant on "Venezuela!!" in that a serious, thorough answer would require a significantly longer discussion the asker is never, ever interested in actually having

ennhhh but I'm also sure there's a class of sexist leftists who just can't stand the idea of a woman being better at policy than a man. whether Matt is one of those or not would require a knowledge of Matt's inner life I don't care to have. And also arguments like these are useless.

AFAICT the Chapos (except Amber, lol) don't have anything against Warren. they certainly haven't spent 20+ minutes tearing apart her record like they have w. Biden, Harris, Beto, Klobuchar, etc

I think that tweet is dumb but Will said on the show there's Bernie...Warren, a grand canyon sized gap and everyone else

also I was *sure* the Harvard Centrists Society was a joke left twitter came up with but apparently not

I'm also sure there's a class of sexist leftists who just can't stand the idea of a woman being better at policy than a man.

yes, they do the "Red Scare" pod if you wanna check it out

yup

Matt also looked askance at this one

Yes! @ewarren has been setting the pace for serious progressive proposals. Everyone else is either following or insisting on things that have no chance of actually happening (cough Sanders cough). https://t.co/v8dEUd0YcA

— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) April 24, 2019

again, liking Warren better than Sanders is a more than defensible position, but I don't get Krugman's line here at all, especially in the absence of the mass movement EW has yet to build. her proposals are just as (in some cases more!) radical; those who oppose her reforms won't care how reasoned-out they are

"Warren has been more serious about policy" is a reasonable (and I think broadly correct) take; "Warren is proposing things we can actually do vs. Sanders' cRaZy talk!" isn't

Well, at least some of it can be done by executive orders, but yeah, stuff like the numbers in Warrens free college plan adding up a bit better than in Sanders doesn't mean any of it will happen.

the delusion is that, as Simon says, pundits want to act like the GOP isn't some warped white power death cult bent on destroying the social safety net

they opposed Obama's lukewarm remix of Mitt Romney's healthcare plan like it was literally imposing Soviet rule, it's not like presenting facts and figures matters to them

I think Warren is doing an excellent job and she's my number one by far

Amber screenshotted a diatribe from Red Scare Anna for Instagram stories this week and it was like a half step off of Jordan Peterson in assessing relationships between men and women. The continued existence of Red Scare confuses me.

when contrarianism and lib-dunking goes wrong, basically

some economist at harvard policy school tweeted his ranked list of candidates and had Liz at number 1 and Bernie at 8 (lowest), when i said ‘your #8 is most similar to your #1 on policy, thought that would be a more salient dimension to you’ he replied ‘I find Warren more thoughtful about most policy issues, agree with her more on the balance between regulation and free markets, and think her record of accomplishments is more compelling (CFPB, for example). Also, less cagey about tax returns.’

Liz is my #1 and Bernie is my #8 too. A lot of it is about demeanor, disposition, and intelligence.

they’re my 1 and 2, i switch day to day

i do think he has a great chance of winning the general

it’s interesting and valid for non policy dimensions to matter, just funny when even ppl who are purportedly all about policy (Klein, a prof in a policy school) put effectively zero weight on it.

Was the tax returns jab from before he released them? Seems odd otherwise

week of

Simon, did you see this one?
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/3/14/centrist-society/

“In the (political) climate today,” she says, “everything is so polarized, and it just feels so personal and emotional that it can be very hard to have a rational argument. It’s very hard to beat someone’s emotional argument with rational facts”

Also, JFC the tax returns thing was so fucking stupid

Harvard Future Middle-Aged Republicans Society

of course

I love the Red Scare podcast and the ladies who make it. My primary motivation to go to NYC next time is finally being on this show. It's hilarious, insightful, independent-minded, and scornful of those who deserve it https://t.co/mOjrMMGYcg

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) April 28, 2019

ooof

their collective fascination with Marianne Williamson is hilarious but also sort of adorable

i doubt ill ever go to a live podcast event but if i were in glasgow in june i might be tempted to catch chapo on their uk tour just because it seems incongruous

I'd never pay to see chapo but I'd def see Street Fight, who've said they're going to come through at some point

i mean i don't even listen to the podcast anymore so maybe i wouldn't i guess lol

who wore it better

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5gfkuLX4AA8l_Z.jpg:small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5gdUE1W0AMEv3L.png

oran mor. shiter venue

can't fathom how unbearable they'd be live. bad enough recorded

i don't think i've ever heard a good live podcast, live shows are almost always worse

Marianne is going to be appearing at a store near me that sells healing crystals

“Don’t use your phone at all unless you really have to post something” pic.twitter.com/MiaaRhpP2m

— David Klion🔥 (@DavidKlion) May 1, 2019

Marianne just qualified for the debates, which I am choosing to attribute to the Chapo Bump.

apparently no one remembers Sigourney Weaver (and Paul Rudnick) parodying Marianne Williamson in 1995

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6WsyWRXY18

Making new friends in Europe and the UK(and mocking Toby Young):

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/03/chapo-trap-house-podcast-interview-trump-socialist-us-comics

They should not keep putting out live episodes if they want people to keep buying tickets to their shows.

tbh I thought that Berlin one was better than their last few "proper" ones

Dennis Perrin is co-hosting a podcast

https://anchor.fm/beautifullies

podcasts have finally arrived

no shit

I’m going to die choking on my own phlegm chortling at a minor exchange like that someday

alan moore has gone on chapo

the crossover event of the summer

saw the title, was somewhat skeptical, and after listening to about 30 seconds: yup, that's Alan

not safe for listening on the way to work. he almost put me into an induced hypnotic sleep state by calmly droning on about his definition of magic

not a surprising get considering Will "edited" his recent tome but still neat

decades of heroic weed consumption, magickal workings and thinking more deeply about the town of northampton that anyone ever has or ever will again have given him eldritch powers which may or may not stand up to the psychich assault of felix biederman's stream of consciousness about fortnite, uncles and knausgaard

good ep albeit tragically felix-free

Downloaded a couple of eps of producer Chris's music podcast (And Introducing), it's pretty good (ie more listenable than Chapo has been lately). I'm halfway through the one about Meet Me In The Bathroom, it's ridiculously long (2.5 hours) and it's endearing to see someone's take on it a few years younger than me/the average ILXor. They still think all the people involved in the early '00s rock scene were kind of cool, it's adorable.