Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

I like to think 90's indie encompasses all the worst elements from UK politics (tories-meltzone-spiked crew). I might be wrong but there is something pleasing to me about that theory!

... turrican.

Look, Britpop was the old way of doing things. In fact it didn't exist. Sensible people need to come together and restore a sense of Gaz Coombes in our fractured political system.

Stella Creasy loves da Shed 7 and Tom Watson shed 7 stone.

Gaz Coombes, probably a bit of a muddle-brained monkey (despite the obv musical genius) but also a bit of a quiet crypto-tory methinks!

Austerity forced all these bands to reform. Truly despicable policy.

I do hope they go for Crispian Mills now, ideally without bothering to check his past pronouncements.

I'd say he looks like the bastard son of Bojo and Hayley Mills in jest .. but ...

what was his controversy? bhuddist swastikas or something? I can't remember.

there is definitely no crypto about his tory!

another TIG candidate bites the dust for racism

he was no. 1 on their list on scotland. he tweeted “black women scare me” and that the owner of dominos was a “loony catholic”

Also a vocal critic of...prosecuting paedophiles.

The owner of Dominos absolutely was a loony catholic, tbf.

he sounds like a typical Spiked contributor.

Crispian Mills' crime was definitely being an idiot rather than a fascist but there's no idiot like a posh idiot, innit me blokes

Can the Beeb arrange for Andrew Neil to interview this Greta Thunberg character? Because afterwards I guarantee we’ll never hear from her again. She may even have a meltdown on national telly into the bargain.

— Helen Dale (@_HelenDale) April 23, 2019

I don't even know who this aussie pos is, but to talk about an autistic meltdown in such a snidey jocular way - means I hope she dies painfully ..very soon. Twats like that make me pro- XR times 10.

Same, also get that Toby Young posturing about Greta Thunberg’s privilege (actor dad, singer mum).

I seem to remember C Hunt being slyly accused of some Doshi was with impressionable young women. Am I wrong?

kids with the temerity to express opinions publicly really bring out the best in the ruling class, journos, everybody really

you do wonder what politics wld be like if you lost the vote at 60

*Doshi was? WTF? I wrote ‘dodgy ways’.

assumed it was a pervy Manga tbh

some fun shade-casting on Five Live just now, pointing out that Change are breaking the mold of UK politics by bragging about all the career pols and political journos that are signing up, then describing Esler as "not really a household name"

Tbh, always had doubts about TIGs, but understood vital need for MPs to work together to stop Brexit

But given their aggressive anti-LD plans, failure to say what they stand for & their blatant refusal to co-operate on Euro elections, time @LibDems got realistic about TIGs pic.twitter.com/UNWbsf9IEM

— Ed Davey🔶 (@EdwardJDavey) April 24, 2019

You know you're fucked when even LibDems think you're slippery.

More on Change UK's leading Scottish candidate.

The Glasgow University website says he is a PhD candidate researching the Greenock-born German/Scottish author and anarchist John Henry Mackay, who died in 1933.

Mackay wrote a series of books in German advocating sex between men and boys called the Books of the Nameless Love, including one called The Boy-Doll.

Mr Russo’s webpage describes this as Mackay’s desire for “pederastic emancipation”.

Going well, isn't it?

Look, stigmatising would-be child molesters is the old politics.

what is the actual point of scottish CHUK candidates anyway

Same, also get that Toby Young posturing about Greta Thunberg’s privilege (actor dad, singer mum).

What, Lord Young's boy?

Despite failing to achieve the College's BBB offer, he was given a place at Brasenose College, Oxford. Young claims he was sent an acceptance letter by mistake, as well as a letter of rejection from the admissions tutor Harry Judge: in an article he wrote for The Spectator, he stated that his father phoned Judge to clarify the situation – Judge was in a meeting with the PPE tutors at the time, and after some discussion, they decided to offer Young a place.[17] He had been given a conditional offer of three Bs plus an O Level pass in a foreign language under a scheme to give access to comprehensive pupils.

I mean, does an academic researching the work of a person constitute an endorsement of all that person's views? Not sure what kind of society we would have if we dismissed all academics, of all people, on the basis of each and every opinion, belief system, whim or manifesto of the people they choose to study.

My experience of academia is that it's fairly common for professors to shine a light on people with a complex range of views, or to become interested in specific parts of someone's work.

I suppose it is easy to pick this out when someone runs for office but it feels a bit iffy to me.

Yeah I didn’t read that “pederastic emancipation” as approving either

Oh ffs, lighten up, Fernando.

Can't you hear the drums?

fwiw he was also going to bat for gary glitter in some tweets and defended a paedophile teacher

Fair enough, apparently racist tweets as well. He's quit, BBC says.

It is legit astonishing that, having quit a party supposedly because the Labour leadership couldn't adequately police the social media output of a party with half a million members (plus however many other random cocks), the CDUK party can't even adequately vet the social media profiles of, what, 50 people?

@SPACEHOG Are you guys doing anything in May? We've had a few dropouts.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) April 24, 2019

they apparently paid “A LOT” of money to a third party to do that vetting for them... the PFI group can’t even outsource properly

xp Molly Half Head might be an appropriate candidate.

I mean, does an academic researching the work of a person constitute an endorsement of all that person's views? Not sure what kind of society we would have if we dismissed all academics, of all people, on the basis of each and every opinion, belief system, whim or manifesto of the people they choose to study.

As you say he's running for office. Your communication skills have got to be really sharp to back yourself so nothing nasty sticks. Most ppl really don't have that.

If it was only the academic stuff i'd agree with Fernando but the guy seems to be *really* interested in challenging outmoded social taboos iykwim

70's libertarianism sent some PIEpl into some fucked up places! Harriet Harman was a notable member of a pro-paedo group iirc.

Yeah I really only defended him on the basis of what he might have studied as an academic. I think of my lecturers and I reckon each one of them or their work or a one-off talk they've given could be ridiculed/shamed outside the world of academia fairly easily. I've come to think of academia as sort of ideological kite flying more and more, though I do feel that can lead to sort of wooly or lackadaisical attitudes towards the actual morality of given thoughts and opinions, plus ignorance and naivety about the world outside the university.

The actual tweets are hard to defend. I guess in a small way it's a bit creepy this sort of hunt through people's tweets, and even the idea of Twitter as archive of morals, but equally I know the tweets that would end my candidacy would not include something like his 'black women scare me'.

I'm not running for CHUK tho, just to clarify.

We should have a thread for “which posts would end ur candidacy” imo

Tho thinking about it that might be a bit close to home for at least one poster

I would like to point out my candidacy is ended on this thread

little feat is yacht rock i am not accepting questions at this time

― mark s, Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:43 PM (eight months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in scotpol news:

- SNP will push for indyref 2 before 2021 “if UK leaves EU”
- scottish terfs are importing moves from the UK/US terf playbook to poison the debate on the SNP’s proposed changes to the GRA; and

BREAKING: Former SNP MP Natalie McGarry has admitted embezzling more than £25,600 from pro-independence organisations. https://t.co/MRRkiKj9VK

— STV News (@STVNews) April 24, 2019

Harriet Harman was a notable member of a pro-paedo group iirc.

Er, no, she was a member of the NCCL which PIE was affiliated too, i.e. PIE sent them a cheque which they cashed. This was a typical PIE tactic, they tried to affiliate with a variety of gay rights organisations, march at Pride, etc.

I'm sure there is a bit more to it than member of group that was honest victim of paedo infiltration, just from from memory, but fuck going down that wormhole again for today!

at this rate they’ll have no candidates left come 23 may

Change UK candidate in Islamophobia row after Muslim terrorist and Tommy Robinson comments emergehttps://t.co/E3T7EvPrhF

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 24, 2019