US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

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. As a GOP Congressman or Trump supporter you either go against your own law enforcement agencies or conclude that welcoming foreign help and directing everyone to lie to the country is actually fine

though, of course, they've been doing this ever since the inauguration, basically, with trump et al trying to discredit the intelligence community at every opportunity.

i was hoping, though, that the reaction to the mueller report would prompt some more awareness among conservatives of their cognitive dissonance. 2 straight years of trump attacking mueller and the very idea of being investigated, followed by 2 days of him praising mueller and the report and crowing 'total exoneration', followed by him saying 'total bullshit' when confronted with the reality that the entire second part of the report proves, over and over and over, in clear language, how he obstructed justice. i was really hoping that at least a few people would be able to recognize the bullshit this time around.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

his approval rating's gone down 5 points, I guess some people are listening

of course this is why the Dems need to initiate impeachment proceedings now. make cowards like Mitt Romney put their names on the record. who cares if you rile up a bunch of Pizzagaters.

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Would hope that there would be a couple of impeachments due in a couple of weeks if not sooner. Barr himself has obstructed justice now.
Hearing the narrative about the Clinton impeachment backfiring on the Republicans is being reassessed and it actually helped tehm in the next election despite some chaos created by GOP higher ups being exposed as having affairs in the interim.

Would think the exposure of facts during an impeachment might be necessary for cleaning up the government and avoiding further repeats or similar behaviour.
Also sounds like its almost a duty written into the constitution for any occurrence of despotic behaviour like Trump thinks he's entitled to.

The idea of avoiding it cos it might cost votes sounds a bit like shrugging off a responsibility.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFo1DfNdn9c

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

well done^

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link

Politico playing the greatest hits this morning:

Pelosi, Schumer to meet with Trump on infrastructure next week

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link

Yoooo let's get Hoyer the fuck out here!!!

I’m so excited to announce that I am running to represent Maryland’s 5th Congressional District!

— Mckayla Wilkes (@MeetMckayla) March 25, 2019

Heez, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

her platform is awesome, also

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

yeah gonna try to see her speak this wknd

Heez, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

...

Steve King says backlash to white nationalism comment was like what Jesus went through: https://t.co/Y9Qo2mXXh0 pic.twitter.com/nAPzZ17PH6

— The Daily Dot (@dailydot) April 24, 2019

person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

otm

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Jesus was insufferable, wouldn't shut up, would execute again

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

Execution a little extreme, but make sure he can't vote

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

Jesús who?

rob, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

lol so now there is another big scary caravan to talk about ? what happened to the last one

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

election campaign ended.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

Clearly the last few years have demonstrated that Satan is on a roll.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

NEW: We have reporting inside Twitter that explains why Jack hasn't "banned the Nazis:" Treating white supremacy like ISIS would mean autobanning some Republican politicians https://t.co/2VmUpqzM7p

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) April 25, 2019


pic.twitter.com/pYs9Qq1f4m

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) April 25, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

How in the world did Erik Prince avoid a charge?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

changed his name to Eric Academi. no one noticed.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

US didn't pay it

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

BREAKING: Federal judge agrees to release Coast Guard Lt. Christopher Hasson, who was accused of plotting terror attack by federal prosecutors. Judge says govt. has not charged him with terrorism and murder and doesn’t plan to, so no grounds to hold.

— justin jouvenal (@jjouvenal) April 25, 2019

uh

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

unreal

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

RESPECT THE TROOPS

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

sends a pretty clear message that it's okay to target the President's enemies

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

I know virtually none of the details surrounding this but I don’t think it’s crazy to worry that rightwing prosecutors and judges who are m/l sympathetic outright white supremacy are just going to start wildin out

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

‘start’

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

fair :-/

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

A WaPo story from Tuesday said "Hasson has been charged with illegal possession of unregistered and unmarked silencers, illegal possession of firearms by an unlawful user or addict of controlled substances, and simple possession of a controlled substance." It sounds like the judge agreed with Hasson's lawyers that he should be allowed bail on those charges. But he'll still go to trial.

Brad C., Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

i regret to inform you the whites are at it again

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

Confused, I thought I read the crazy judge thought he did not automatically meet the conditions for detention, but it's still up to his defense lawyers to make a conditional case that or how he should be released. That is, it's not like he has or will be simply turned loose.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

who the fuck are these assholes around Trump saying General Lee is their favorite general ? lol who even has a favorite general other than general Tso ?

Asked if he still thinks there were "very fine people" on both sides of the white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville, Trump says, "I was talking about people that went b/c they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E Lee. A great general, whether you like it or not" pic.twitter.com/D7O5vFWy29

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 26, 2019

what a joke he is a fucking joke

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

I am partial to General Electric, with General Mills as a close second.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

i like generals who don't etc

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

General Johnson imo

He's probably thinking of the car from Dukes of Hazzard. A very fine car.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 April 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

the march was explicitly about white supremacy not robert e lee statues

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

weird that he didn’t clarify that at the time, instead waiting until just after right-wing talking heads started using that as their revisionist excuse for what trump actually meant by ‘both sides

rly makes u think

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

also, for a guy who has repeatedly voiced his disdain for ‘losers’, it’s weird that he should hold robert e lee, a noted loser, in such high esteem

rly makes u think

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

xpost tbf he did say that at the time

"I think there is blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there is blame object both on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You don't have doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. "

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 26 April 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

fake news obv

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

I think a lot of people are overplaying their hand on the "very fine people" comment since the transcript doesn't really look so bad...its more to do with the occasion and timing of the remark, given Trump's one job was "don't make it look like you sympathize with the Nazis". he's said and done hundreds of horrible things since.

frogbs, Friday, 26 April 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

^otm. Even Trump isn't dumb enough to publicly state he thinks some neo-nazis are very fine people.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

that is what he did! the people there "just" out of concern for the monument are fictitious. or are we going to start acting like "heritage" is *not* a gigantic code word scam for white supremacist revanchism?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

Maria Butina gets 18 months, deportation after time served.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/politics/maria-butina-sentencing/index.html

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 April 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

that is what he did!

No, that's what you and many others perceived it as. Yes, he really thinks those people exist, not fictitious. I don't think any of them are "very fine people", but I also don't think the venn diagram of Neo-Nazis and people who get butthurt over Confederate statues is a perfect circe.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 26 April 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link


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