FRASIER vs. NEWSRADIO

the only onscreen things that stress me out are certain episodes of frasier, where he has like 2 dates, one in the bedroom and one in the kitchen and he has to keep running around trying to fake his way through the whole thing....RUN FRASIER RUN THEY ARE ON TO YOU!!!!!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:04 PM

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also, i don't think any britishes will look kindly upon daphne's britisher familles.

also, cheers>>>>>>>>>>>frasier, has to be said.

also, i have not seen newsradio but would like to.

You can watch it on Hulu.

not in britishland i can't

"funny show is serious" i.e. "the moment of shit"

I loved that they had Andy Dick on to be "the weirdo" and then surrounded him with characters who were all equally as weird.

There was an episode where an intern showed up who was like an even weirder Andy Dick - skinny, clumsy, dressed like an eight-year-old. Andy Dick's character spent the entire episode complaining that the new guy was usurping his rightful role as "the weird guy in the office".

I always got a kick out of the Crane Boys mysteries.

I don't think I've ever watched an episode of Frasier all the way through.

hits too close to home?

newsradio in a walk

^^^^ Case closed.

also, i don't think any britishes will look kindly upon daphne's britisher familles.

What's the British equivalent of white trash?

White trash that doesn't sound like people with totally weird and non-white-trashy accents.

I mean, RICHARD E GRANT? REALLY?

I need to go back and see those eps, because the only people I'm remembering are her mother and whoever it was that Lapaglia played (brother?).

What's the frequency, Lamp?

LaPaglia was one brother, Richard E Grant and Robbie Coltrane were the others. Brian Cox was her dad. So, an Australian, a posh dude from Swaziland and two Scots. The idea of the characters was fine, but the casting and the accents, not so much (not to mention Jane Leeves' attempt at portraying a Mancunian...). Her mum was probably the best of the lot, so kudos to Millicent Martin for that.

have only seen the first season of Newsradio but Frasier holds up pretty well against most sitcoms

fave random newsradio memories:

the episode where bill mcneal decides to pursue a career singing satirical political songs and everyone tells him he's ripping off the guy that already does that.

whenever they joked about not interacting with any of the extras and only holding staff meetings for themselves.

Hmm... I think I have to go with Newsradio for Hartman. Frasier is great as well, but I agree that it went on a little too long. I love both shows - but its Newsradio I have on DVD, so.

dave foley shoulda gone on to greater things than he has

he looks really creepy and awful now tho like even cartoon child molesters are qn his facial hair

2 me the quintessential frasier episode is the one where they all go to a ski lodge w/ some hot friend of daphne's and a good looking french ski instructor dude and most of the episode is french farce + witty repartee and tryna sleep with someone that wants to sleep with someone else. i mean i havent really done it justice but frasier was on w/ that shit like basically no other show was or is but newsradio idk feel like its a good show but there are better wacky workplace jams out there

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the only onscreen things that stress me out are certain episodes of frasier, where he has like 2 dates, one in the bedroom and one in the kitchen and he has to keep running around trying to fake his way through the whole thing....RUN FRASIER RUN THEY ARE ON TO YOU!!!!!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:04 PM

Haha. I wonder how many Frasier episodes are different variations on this idea. Must hide this thing/person from these people/this person, frantic running around back and forth, etc. I found this show pretty entertaining when it was on, haven't seen it for a long time though. Never really watched Newsradio.

I wonder how many Frasier episodes are different variations on this idea.

MANY of them.

Sort of like how Three's Company was always driven by someone overhearing someone else and coming to an incorrect conclusion until they discovered the truth at the end. Basic premise, almost always funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKlge0jfg48&feature=related

Newsradio, duh

dave foley shoulda gone on to greater things than he has

I saw him recently in a guest spot on the Nickelodeon show iCarly, which my daughter watches. So, yeah. He deserves better.

Yeah the comedy of errors is a big part of what Frasier is all about. I have to say I wasnt a huge fan of the jolly farce ski lodge ep - I found it a bit exhausting!

Larry David was on iCarly not too long ago!

I'm going to hate myself in the morning, but I voted Frasier. PLEASE PLEASE understand I LOVE NewsRadio and have it all on DVD, which I can't say for Frasier. But the writing for Frasier is just too good over too long a period of time for me not to think that it's one of the most consistent sitcoms ever, if not one of the funniest (and I think it's also that).

also, cheers>>>>>>>>>>>frasier, has to be said.

No it doesn't. Cheers has some great episodes, but it has some really bad ones, too. Hell it has some really bad seasons.

"NORM! How about a beer?"

"No thanks, Sammy. I just realized that I'll never get work again after this show ends. How about you kill me and then yourself?"

The best of Cheers more than makes up for the worst of Cheers, though.

Cheers at its best is best ensemble comedy ever on TV. Every character is a cultural touchstone, and every character someone you relate to and are secretly afraid makes up just a little too much of your own personality.

No, it's quality stuff.

Seinfeld works like this, too.

Cheers at its best is best ensemble comedy ever on TV.

Hard for me to rank between that, M*A*S*H and Roseanne. And Roseanne may take it for being the realest of the real and still riotously funny in both obvious and nuanced ways.

I'm down with Roseanne.

M*A*S*H is hard for me to judge, because watching random reruns sometimes I get a great early or mid-period episode, but sometimes I get one of those creepy-serious later Alda episodes. Sometimes I'm afraid of M*A*S*H.

I don't think Radar leaving was what made M*A*S*H take its turn into the creepy/not-as-funny-as-before realm, but it's a good marker.

Fair enough, yeah.

Getting way off topic. My fault. Carry on.

dave foley shoulda gone on to greater things than he has

i am actually a sort-of-embarrassed fan of celebrity poker showdown, but dave foley always seems like he's begging someone to please kill him. poor dude.

anyway, newsradio w/hartman >> good frasier >> newsradio post-hartman >>>>>>>> bad frasier.

although it is hard to watch hartman episodes now because of the weird sideways association of andy dick with his death.

(maura tierney had a very good run on celebrity poker showdown, btw.)

HAHA I Know! She kicks ass at poker, apparently.

And wouldn't she? It makes too much sense.

i am actually a sort-of-embarrassed fan of celebrity poker showdown, but dave foley always seems like he's begging someone to please kill him.

Or fix his teeth, at least.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

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This result seems right.

Cheers at its best is best ensemble comedy ever on TV. Every character is a cultural touchstone, and every character someone you relate to and are secretly afraid makes up just a little too much of your own personality.

Cheers at best and Seinfeld at best make me really sorry for people who think Arrested Development is the "teh best tv show evarrrr omg"

Watching Jeopardy day before yesterday: "Five People Who Have Never Been In My Kitchen" is now a category. (Even though Cliff only needed three.)

seinfeld vs. cheers would be a good poll imo but i guess its 2 obv one-sided

understand the results but i think frasiers bein underrated here

Frasier is one of the scariest sitcoms to watch stoned. it should win something for that.

Roseanne is worse. I had a bad day with Roseanne once.

cool story bro

I left out the part about the tomato. You should thank me.

(No really, I could ramble on about how Roseanne broke my brain and suddenly became the most deeply strange thing in the world, but... I was stoned.)

Was it this episode when you had a bad day with Roseanne once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCYPkPipMZE

Next time, try shrooms.

all five seasons of newsradio are on prime now!!! i don't think it has ever been on any of the big streaming services before? i know there was a season or two if it on crackle or one of those weird ones

although it is hard to watch hartman episodes now because of the weird sideways association of andy dick with his death.

And was eventually on Celebrity Rehab, trying to get his son to get him out of jail.

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Iirc, Andy Dick played some part in recovering addict Brynn Hartman going off the wagon and ultimately killing Phil.

That allegation is why Jon Lobito beat the shit out of Andy Dick

Lol LOVITZ, thanks phone

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Frasier is faster, louder, more flamboyantly stylized than Newsradio: frequently calculated to farcical peaks, with doors slamming and people running around yelling, repartee and punchlines, but also w room for romantic, sentimental xp "serious" passages, incl. some resolutions--in that way deviating from otherwise somewhat Sienfeldian approach, the basic rule of which is "No learning, no group hugs"---still works in a screwball comedy-romance way, even though Frasier is huffnpuff express, not like William Powell's cruise control.
NewsRadio's characters get flustered and all, but never as fast and loud as Frazier (which is more like atage comedy, the kind of play that might have been [at least hoping to be] the basis for a William Powell etc. flick). The players, who all seem like sketch comedy company vets, as Foley and Root and Hartman and maybe others were, know when and how to draw it in a little, not overemphasizing the Funny part, cos all funny enough to get by, Not brittle-edgy like Seinfeld, but closer to it in terms of going for pure comedy than Frasier's many and sometimes too many nods to plush mush (while still making title character the butt of well-earned joeks before and after the sentiments)

Both are maybe a little tedious sometimes? Haven't seen NewsRadio and a while, but Frasier's on late nights Hallmark Channel or something close to that on the grid, so one of my housemates has it on fairly often

maura tierney tho

She would still tip the scales to Newsradio, yeah pretty sure. Always seems truly disturbed by craziness, as Jane Leeves does not (always).

Leeves a tad more overtly professional/om the nose.

on the nose, no om about it

obv phil hartman is amazing in newsradio but i don't think i truly appreciated how great stephen root was in it too. incredible comedic performance.

andy dick and joe rogan are both terrible people in their own ways but at least dick is very funny in this show. rogan is just kind of flat and boring.

apparently vicki lewis was in a relationship with nick nolte for like 10 years

andy dick (was) a genuinely hilarious talented person at one time. sad/dark stuff.

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