2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

dumb question, but what sorts of things did wright say that were so amazingly offensive? the stuff i heard on the radio was, frankly, a bit paranoid around the edges (the feds selling crack to the inner city, etc.) but not particular offensive.

particularLY

"god damn america"

so were people actually OFFENDED at that or just "offended"?

eh who knows?

I think typical white people enjoy being offended about things.

is it just me or is the clinton campaign's behavior in this campaign growing more disingenuous, dishonest, and craven by the day? and it seems to be working. i'm really depressed.

(sorry for not being too sophisticated about this, but i'm so busy with work that i can only stick me head out and read a bit of news on occasion.)

i say this as someone who was by no means a clinton-hater in the past.

thats pretty much the consensus of this thread

I think for every person genuinely offended by "God Damn America" there are five more people who are just sort of startled by it and not really offended but are worried that if they don't act offended their co-workers will think they're not patriotic enough.

the scary thing about the wright flap is that in the wake of 9-11, bizarro nationalism created a climate of fear and self-censorship lest anyone be branded unpatriotic. six years of royal executive fuck-ups later it's acceptable (if not encouraged) in most quarters to mock the head of state, ruling class etc. but god forbid you implicate the country itself (in practical terms the voters who elected these buffoons but in bizarro nationalistic terms George Washington, Gen. Patton, Elvis, det. john mcclane etc.) the fear mongers immediately return to center stage with their brand and everyone cowers, even piling on the guilty party so their own patriotism won't be questioned.

I thought after Iraq and a laundry list of other blemishes we could handle an open/honest discussion about America's place in the world and God's heart, but apparently the architects of this rah-rah culture worked some impressive voodoo shit on us back then that will continue to rear its ugly head from time to time.

or what hurting said.

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

the scary thing about the wright flap is that in the wake of 9-11, bizarro nationalism created a climate of fear and self-censorship lest anyone be branded unpatriotic.

I think America was pretty much always like this.

yep xp

oh yeah like most countries, but it became particularly toxic and powerful afterwards.

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

I thought this was related one of the things that John Kerry dug up around '85 or so, with the Iran-Contra funding and drug-running to the U.S. etc.

huckabee amazingly honest, clear-headed and forgiving: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/huckabee-defend.html

maybe he can replace McCain as the batshit conservative it's ok for liberals to like.

That's fine with me if he brings some inclusiveness and optimism and forgiveness and tolerance to the table.

He also wants to bring guns and creationism, so I'm not totally onboard.

we have posted the huckabee thing like five times already

i generally believe the feds did sell crack to the inner city kids

what GS level was that job?

(sorry about the repost, missed some hidden messages)

like I've said before, the news cycle on this thread is about an hour

I think typical white people enjoy being offended about things.

you can take my capacity for hypocritical phony outrage when you pry it from my cold dead frontal cortex.

stuff white people like

i didn't get a ticket for tomorrow's rally, but i did get to see the obama caravan roll into downtown tonight. 5-0 was everywhere, about 3 dozen motorbike cops. I was on my bike and stopped as they roared by me. I was the only guy on the street at the time, and I waved. I think I saw him on his phone.

in other news, we've hit 8K messages on this thread, time for a new one?

Yes, a new one.

yep

2008 Primaries Thread 3: Oh God It's Still Happening

Symmetry required gabbneb to end this.

symmetry got raped and thrown off a hotel balcony.