Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

"have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?"

star trek beyond had lots of little ships. I did find the action sequences genuinely thrilling, which I hadn't felt before with Discovery. (If the budget overrun on the season premiere was spent on the X-Wing asteroid field sequence, they wasted their money.)

Also it’s seems like poor starfleet management practice not to nominate a captain from the legions of commanders on discovery before they disappeared into the future.

I did like Number 1s very 60s hairstyle and overall looks. The 23rd century is about to enter a very retro phase.

• why vulcans are unable to use contractions

contractions are illogical

somehow

Spock used contractions! He might be Vulcan, but he's no Soong-type android.

I really liked this for its pure spectacle! There's a million things that don't make sense this season (yes, the current writing regime continues the proud Trek tradition of not being able to do cool, well-considered sci-fi concepts*), but they hit enough beats that made up for it: Burnham's flight in the suit; the SFX for all of her jumps; Lrell and Ash with the requisite "TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE" (I seriously got choked up when they said it).

* Like they literally didn't need Burnham to send an additional signal! She appeared to Spock as a child, which should've been proof enough that she made it through the wormhole.

have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?

I'm pretty sure we saw some in some of the big space battles in DS9.

xp i think that was mrs burnham who appeared to spock as a child

ugh this was garbage

so confusing, maybe i misheard but at one point they say they can't get through to the rest of starfleet, then 5 minutes later "we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30". huh?

why didn't they just use the spore drive to jump to the delta quadrant and launch michael from there?

so much awful technobabble but the enterprise bridge officer asks the discovery one to "speak english" because she doesn't know what an arc second is :(

pretty sure they could have tied a string to that blast door handle. also, blast door was pretty strong, maybe they should build the whole ship out of them.

spock: did u ever knooo that ur my heeeerooooo

"section 31 requires more transparency"

that went well, no-one's heard of it in ds9.

i thouht the signal she was going to send to spock was the one from his childhood... so when did that one get sent?

we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30

i think this was a reference to all their lil fighters and drones (and then leland launched his own)

That blast door scene made me cross. No way he could have stood directly on the other side of the glass and not been impacted somehow. WTF.

spock's childhood meeting was with mike's mom. how the vision included the signals when mom didn't know anything about signals is a plot hole.

There are dozens of star treks, not just 6 or 7, and if trek is a feeling then everyone has a different one. But i keep thinking of The Measure of a Man; it might not even be my favourite episode but in the writing, the problem posed and the solution offered, it was something of a peak. Nothing in Discovery was remotely of that calibre - in season 2 certainly. Season 1 had some things going for it, e.g. Tilly pushed the boundaries of what a starfleet officer could be, while staying true to or even exemplifying trek values; by season 2 she was mostly reduced to comic relief.

I missed some of the wtf-ness that Jason Isaacs provided last season, but I really enjoyed this one. Shame the last episode was a Marvel movie climax laser fight though.

Hells yeah that massive pew pew scene hurt my head, I couldnt tell who was shooting what at some points.

logic extremists

lol

Anyone else been watching the new Short Treks?

They seem to have annoyed all the hardcore Trekkies (not difficult) but I've enjoyed them.

Assume the last one will tie into Picard somehow?

The last one is indeed a Picard teaser.

I only watched the cartoon one and really liked it, it was equal parts Looney Tunes and Disney.

Oh and I watched the Picard one as well, it was ok.

The Trouble with Edward one is a blast although apparently Star Trek isn't allowed to be funny.

Just watched it and yes, it's funny as hell.

two years later and series 1 has made it to terrestrial tv in the uk. am about 8 episodes in, but i've nothing really to say other than i'm disappointed that the DISCO shirts don't say VERY on the back.

I love the DISCO shirts.

it's currently only on E4 and has already been moved from 21:00 to 23:40 on sundays after 8 episodes.

this changed a lot around episode 9.

lol at episode 8 though. "Just one more jump before i retire..."

Hey I circled back to S1 recently & after being bored again for lije 3 eps shit turned a corner in ep9, am now on episode 11 and :D : D
man they really waited to kick things into high gear, huh?

PERMISSION TO COME ABOARD
1 TO BEAM UP

SPOCK GOATEES FOR EVERYONE

anyway i’ll come back when i’m caught up

is s3 even happening or what

after the disaster of s2 they should take their time, correct their errors, fire 100 more producers

oh no have i made a terrible mistake

It is remarkable how many series Fuller has started on then promptly bounced from, but since everything he kept working on is great and everything he abandoned (or was forced out of) turned out to be a mess I'm choosing to see this as a condemnation of the medium

I enjoyed the hell out of S2 but between this and Picard I think the notion that someone can make a contemporary Trek series is kind of a false premise. The days of running 7 seasons of 25 eps per year is long over, and all these shows are so plot heavy that you can't afford to have duff character eps in a 10 episode season that is all in service of the narrative arc.

That said, Pike was a legitimate great addition to ST lore and the actor played him well. I'd happily see a Pike-led TOS style show.

I don't get the love for Disco Pike! Shakey bafflingly called Picard a nullity but I think that title is more applicable to Pike.

Totally agree that Pike brought some clear TOS energy (not to mention some proper mature hotness, instead of being another of these callow bearded younglings that the Trek casting teams seem so in love with these days). But season two of Discovery is a boring mess.

Thought the second season was miles better and more fun, even if it missed Jason Isaacs’s weird whatever-it-was. The last ep was stupid, though.

Michael is the nullify for me, in the sense that Sonequa M-G always seems weirdly uncommitted - although she had a good chemistry w/Spock iirc. Also! Discovery Spock >>> Zachary Quinto

the uncommitted thing seems like a misfire on the attempt to seem culturally Vulcan

CBS All Access has given a series order to STAR TREK: STRANGE NEW WORLDS, starring Anson Mount as Captain Pike and Ethan Peck as Science Officer Spock. pic.twitter.com/xPopnvw4Xy

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) May 15, 2020

Just for me, obviously.

can't be as bad as Enterprise was, at least?

me 10 years ago: with theyd make more star trek tv :(
me 10 seconds ago: woha guys calm down i havent even finished picard yet

some fans just can't be pleased i guess

i watched the first few Enterprise episodes recently. seems to be entirely

1. vulcan lady is right about everything > captain whines, insists on doing something stupid, manages to half-assedly at least survive > vulcan lady begrudgingly starts to appreciate human stupidity

2. engineer has a bad accent, and not even amusingly like scotty

3. will the vulcan lady get her kit off in this ep

also, would you take a beagle on a submarine? then why are you taking one into space?

lol I read this 3 times thinking you were talking about Discovery and wondering what on earth you were on about.

Happy to hear that Pike's getting his own show. I know nothing about Anson Mount but he made a meal out of what could have been a nothing part, so if they write some proper Trek stories it could be good.

3. will the vulcan lady get her kit off in this ep

wait until u get 2 the therapeutic massage episodes

a whole therapeutic massage STORY ARC

so if they write some proper Trek stories it could be good

Big if imo.

lol i don't think i'm gonna continue. i kinda like the doctor, though -- he's chipper but not in a way that invites murder (unlike neelix)

i'm told the vulcan lady gets the pon farr, despite it being non-canon for females

just some extremely horny showrunning