Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

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Yeah, that was some v good Trek there! Plot holes aplenty around death of Control but that aside, yes. I wonder how it is going down with the Trekkers.

stet, Saturday, 20 April 2019 00:40 (one year ago) link

have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?

endless plot holes but it sure looked nice. spock should have kept the beard

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 April 2019 02:32 (one year ago) link

he will... consider it

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 20 April 2019 04:15 (one year ago) link

Loved the moire screen detail

#startrekdiscovery Some details go back to my childhood. I always loved Spock's science station on the Enterprise bridge. Thank to Alex Kurtzman and Olatunde Osunsanmi for letting me animate Spock's moiré. Such an iconic screen!

— Timothy Peel (@timothypeel1) April 20, 2019

stet, Saturday, 20 April 2019 09:29 (one year ago) link

things we didn't learn:

  • how burnham created the Signals
  • how burnham crashed the oksana baiul technology
  • how the suit/time crystal, which was supposed to only have enough power for one jump into the future, was able to make all the Signal-making jumps
  • why the suit/time crystal compelled burnham to perform the Signal-making jumps at that moment, when they could have been done at/from any time
  • why the enterprise has no robots able to close a blast door from the inside, requiring an admiral to do it instead
  • why control, which was evidently running the entire section 31 fleet by itself, chose to put all of itself into leland
  • fuckin magnets, why do they work
  • why ash, who is supposed to be dead, is able to hang out in public with klingons
  • why starfleet would subsequently ban spore-drive technology
  • why we even bothered with that whole hugh-is-pissy arc
  • why vulcans are unable to use contractions

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:22 (one year ago) link

also, why did the signals appear briefly at the start of the season? why did burnham bother with saru's backwards shithole planet instead of getting someone like the vulcans to help out?

yes, i could deal with a few of these, but all together they come across as sloppy writing.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 20 April 2019 23:44 (one year ago) link

"have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?"

star trek beyond had lots of little ships. I did find the action sequences genuinely thrilling, which I hadn't felt before with Discovery. (If the budget overrun on the season premiere was spent on the X-Wing asteroid field sequence, they wasted their money.)

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 20 April 2019 23:48 (one year ago) link

Also it’s seems like poor starfleet management practice not to nominate a captain from the legions of commanders on discovery before they disappeared into the future.

I did like Number 1s very 60s hairstyle and overall looks. The 23rd century is about to enter a very retro phase.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:00 (one year ago) link

• why vulcans are unable to use contractions

contractions are illogical

j., Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:41 (one year ago) link


j., Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:41 (one year ago) link

Spock used contractions! He might be Vulcan, but he's no Soong-type android.

I really liked this for its pure spectacle! There's a million things that don't make sense this season (yes, the current writing regime continues the proud Trek tradition of not being able to do cool, well-considered sci-fi concepts*), but they hit enough beats that made up for it: Burnham's flight in the suit; the SFX for all of her jumps; Lrell and Ash with the requisite "TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE" (I seriously got choked up when they said it).

* Like they literally didn't need Burnham to send an additional signal! She appeared to Spock as a child, which should've been proof enough that she made it through the wormhole.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Sunday, 21 April 2019 04:34 (one year ago) link

have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?

I'm pretty sure we saw some in some of the big space battles in DS9.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Sunday, 21 April 2019 04:36 (one year ago) link

xp i think that was mrs burnham who appeared to spock as a child

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 April 2019 06:42 (one year ago) link

ugh this was garbage

so confusing, maybe i misheard but at one point they say they can't get through to the rest of starfleet, then 5 minutes later "we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30". huh?

why didn't they just use the spore drive to jump to the delta quadrant and launch michael from there?

so much awful technobabble but the enterprise bridge officer asks the discovery one to "speak english" because she doesn't know what an arc second is :(

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:36 (one year ago) link

pretty sure they could have tied a string to that blast door handle. also, blast door was pretty strong, maybe they should build the whole ship out of them.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:57 (one year ago) link

spock: did u ever knooo that ur my heeeerooooo

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:58 (one year ago) link

"section 31 requires more transparency"

that went well, no-one's heard of it in ds9.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:08 (one year ago) link

i thouht the signal she was going to send to spock was the one from his childhood... so when did that one get sent?

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:14 (one year ago) link

we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30

i think this was a reference to all their lil fighters and drones (and then leland launched his own)

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 April 2019 22:06 (one year ago) link

That blast door scene made me cross. No way he could have stood directly on the other side of the glass and not been impacted somehow. WTF.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:04 (one year ago) link

spock's childhood meeting was with mike's mom. how the vision included the signals when mom didn't know anything about signals is a plot hole.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 28 April 2019 08:49 (one year ago) link

There are dozens of star treks, not just 6 or 7, and if trek is a feeling then everyone has a different one. But i keep thinking of The Measure of a Man; it might not even be my favourite episode but in the writing, the problem posed and the solution offered, it was something of a peak. Nothing in Discovery was remotely of that calibre - in season 2 certainly. Season 1 had some things going for it, e.g. Tilly pushed the boundaries of what a starfleet officer could be, while staying true to or even exemplifying trek values; by season 2 she was mostly reduced to comic relief.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Sunday, 28 April 2019 11:15 (one year ago) link

I missed some of the wtf-ness that Jason Isaacs provided last season, but I really enjoyed this one. Shame the last episode was a Marvel movie climax laser fight though.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 28 April 2019 16:22 (one year ago) link

Hells yeah that massive pew pew scene hurt my head, I couldnt tell who was shooting what at some points.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:22 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

logic extremists


j., Monday, 15 July 2019 06:41 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Anyone else been watching the new Short Treks?

They seem to have annoyed all the hardcore Trekkies (not difficult) but I've enjoyed them.

Assume the last one will tie into Picard somehow?

groovypanda, Monday, 20 January 2020 10:26 (six months ago) link

The last one is indeed a Picard teaser.

I only watched the cartoon one and really liked it, it was equal parts Looney Tunes and Disney.

Siouxie Sioux and the Vanjies (Leee), Monday, 20 January 2020 17:52 (six months ago) link

Oh and I watched the Picard one as well, it was ok.

Siouxie Sioux and the Vanjies (Leee), Monday, 20 January 2020 18:25 (six months ago) link

The Trouble with Edward one is a blast although apparently Star Trek isn't allowed to be funny.

groovypanda, Monday, 20 January 2020 18:49 (six months ago) link

Just watched it and yes, it's funny as hell.

Siouxie Sioux and the Vanjies (Leee), Monday, 20 January 2020 21:59 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

two years later and series 1 has made it to terrestrial tv in the uk. am about 8 episodes in, but i've nothing really to say other than i'm disappointed that the DISCO shirts don't say VERY on the back.

koogs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:09 (six months ago) link

I love the DISCO shirts.

trishyb, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:34 (six months ago) link

it's currently only on E4 and has already been moved from 21:00 to 23:40 on sundays after 8 episodes.

koogs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:45 (six months ago) link

this changed a lot around episode 9.

lol at episode 8 though. "Just one more jump before i retire..."

koogs, Thursday, 20 February 2020 17:39 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Hey I circled back to S1 recently & after being bored again for lije 3 eps shit turned a corner in ep9, am now on episode 11 and :D : D
man they really waited to kick things into high gear, huh?



anyway i’ll come back when i’m caught up

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:16 (three months ago) link

is s3 even happening or what

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:32 (three months ago) link

after the disaster of s2 they should take their time, correct their errors, fire 100 more producers

wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:42 (three months ago) link

oh no have i made a terrible mistake

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:49 (three months ago) link

It is remarkable how many series Fuller has started on then promptly bounced from, but since everything he kept working on is great and everything he abandoned (or was forced out of) turned out to be a mess I'm choosing to see this as a condemnation of the medium

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 05:50 (three months ago) link

I enjoyed the hell out of S2 but between this and Picard I think the notion that someone can make a contemporary Trek series is kind of a false premise. The days of running 7 seasons of 25 eps per year is long over, and all these shows are so plot heavy that you can't afford to have duff character eps in a 10 episode season that is all in service of the narrative arc.

That said, Pike was a legitimate great addition to ST lore and the actor played him well. I'd happily see a Pike-led TOS style show.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:09 (three months ago) link

I don't get the love for Disco Pike! Shakey bafflingly called Picard a nullity but I think that title is more applicable to Pike.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Saturday, 25 April 2020 06:15 (three months ago) link

Totally agree that Pike brought some clear TOS energy (not to mention some proper mature hotness, instead of being another of these callow bearded younglings that the Trek casting teams seem so in love with these days). But season two of Discovery is a boring mess.

trishyb, Saturday, 25 April 2020 10:25 (three months ago) link

Thought the second season was miles better and more fun, even if it missed Jason Isaacs’s weird whatever-it-was. The last ep was stupid, though.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:54 (three months ago) link

Michael is the nullify for me, in the sense that Sonequa M-G always seems weirdly uncommitted - although she had a good chemistry w/Spock iirc. Also! Discovery Spock >>> Zachary Quinto

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 25 April 2020 15:57 (three months ago) link

the uncommitted thing seems like a misfire on the attempt to seem culturally Vulcan

mh, Saturday, 25 April 2020 16:01 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

CBS All Access has given a series order to STAR TREK: STRANGE NEW WORLDS, starring Anson Mount as Captain Pike and Ethan Peck as Science Officer Spock.

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) May 15, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 15 May 2020 15:28 (two months ago) link

Just for me, obviously.

trishyb, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:24 (two months ago) link

can't be as bad as Enterprise was, at least?

mh, Friday, 15 May 2020 16:39 (two months ago) link

me 10 years ago: with theyd make more star trek tv :(
me 10 seconds ago: woha guys calm down i havent even finished picard yet

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Friday, 15 May 2020 18:35 (two months ago) link

some fans just can't be pleased i guess

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Friday, 15 May 2020 18:35 (two months ago) link

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