Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - From Software and Hidetaka Miyazaki's new game for PS4, XBone, PC

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I like to be a completist but don't know if I can bother with the Dark Souls/Bloodborne boss they stuck in at the end here.

Seven Spears took me forever the first time, I think being aggressive helps, but it's another one where they make you read the sweep vs thrust attack (and either double jump on him or mikiri counter).

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 19 April 2019 15:26 (one year ago) link

I literally spent something like 10+ hours spread over a few days taking down lighting boi Genichiro. Dozens and dozens of attempts. I was dumb and stubborn though, there were routes I could’ve taken to beef myself up a bit beforehand, but for whatever reason I was determined to do it as is.

The twitch muscle memory I built up for that dude is something else. After all that pain I want to fight him again. Could probably pull off a no hit take down.

I’ve scoured the lands and mini-bosses since and am pretty well leveled. It’s honestly been pretty painless after that. So far.

circa1916, Saturday, 20 April 2019 13:29 (one year ago) link

Definitely rolling through some areas thinking “oh, I guess I should’ve done this earlier” because they’re weirdly easy.

circa1916, Saturday, 20 April 2019 13:31 (one year ago) link

The sound and animations for deathblows should be noted as being one of the most satisfying things ever in a video game.

circa1916, Saturday, 20 April 2019 13:37 (one year ago) link

SHUUUNG *arterial spray*

circa1916, Saturday, 20 April 2019 13:38 (one year ago) link

Totally.

I spent a beautiful spring day obsessively throwing myself at the demon boss, definitely the hardest thing I've done in this game (and it really is more like a Souls fight).

Just couldn't get through the last phase after learning the first two, I was about to write it off as not worth it when it finally clicked, got him just before I had to leave the house.

Just the last boss now, and I can get back to my non-Sekiro pursuits!

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 21 April 2019 16:14 (one year ago) link

I lost my husband to this game. I understand. Watching it is even fun. Lol

nathom, Sunday, 21 April 2019 19:02 (one year ago) link

I just did the Demon of Hotrod too. I died a bunch of times on the first two phases then did the third one in one try ¯\(°_o)/¯

It's a shame, what happened to him, but toxic masculinity is what it is I guess

There have been like three times on this game where I've given myself til midnight to beat a boss before going to bed, then got the worst case secenario of doing it at 11:59 and having too much fkn adrenaline to sleep

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 22 April 2019 23:21 (one year ago) link

It's a shame, what happened to him, but toxic masculinity is what it is I guess

lol, exactly right.

The last boss is really fun, only gave him 1/2 an hour so far but it's feeling doable.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 17:44 (one year ago) link

Give me a DLC where I kill Genichiro over and over forever

well I sure got my wish

I got last boss down to half health in his last phase, then fucked up a dodge, then got impatient and tired and started dying on the gimme first phase

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 27 April 2019 11:06 (one year ago) link

I'm just sitting down with my coffee to do this. I feel comfortable enough with Genichiro and the first phase that it feels like my fault if I die. Still figuring out phase 2 (and I hope that the lightning will carry phase 3,only made it to that one or twice).

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:17 (one year ago) link

Or maybe I'll just die on phase 1 over and over. One mistake and his posture goes back to zero.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:31 (one year ago) link

Just gottim. I'm a very ungracious winner in this game, lots of screaming and taunting at fictional Japanese men as they bleed out

The lightning almost doesn't come out as often as you want it to in phase 3, I found it more nerve wracking to run around trying to bait it instead of just keeping up the pressure

Think the key freebies in the spear phase are his jumping stab and also when he does the backwards jump spear swing, he'll usually follow it up with three blockable gunshots and then a mikiri counterable thrust

Didn't use many prosthetics etc, just the occasional mortal draw for quicker damage and the umbrella as an emergency block if I couldn't sprint away from an AoE

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 27 April 2019 14:38 (one year ago) link

I did iiiiit (too).

It took three hours to get to phase 3 today, but luckily I got it in one (thank you based lightning).

Played around in NG+ after giving Kuro his charm back, which makes you take chip damage if you don't block perfectly. It's almost a whole different game, much more exacting (made me realize how much I was spamming block).

Fantastic game, but I think I'm done forever.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:47 (one year ago) link

Congrats, good going one-shotting the last bit

I'm done too, 63 good hours logged, uninstalled it, may my blade ever be slick with the blood of the despicable failson Ashina Genichiro

shout out to Pot Noble Harunaga, you really pulled it off you crazy bastard

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 27 April 2019 23:55 (one year ago) link

It's sad, he was a fish

Here I am half-hoping they won't do dlc this time

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 29 April 2019 18:08 (one year ago) link

Whenever I see clips of this I keep thinking it's "Ghost of Tsushima," which reminds me to look forward to "Ghost of Tsushima."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 May 2019 00:32 (one year ago) link

holy shit i am slow at this game / i guess am better at not letting it take over my life like Bloodborne did when i was living by myself?

its so weird how I must have done the Genichiro fight maybe 50 or 60 times - the first time it seemed impossible but every single time i could feel a tiny bit of improvement, until the time i killed him i took almost no damage, first and second phases done in about 90 seconds each, then did the lightning reverse 3 times in a row on phase 3. holy shit thats a fun fight.

got the monkeys done last night and excited to see the next areas.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 3 May 2019 10:22 (one year ago) link

^Sekiro in a nutshell. There were definitely certain bosses in Souls that I never learned 'properly', because you could switch to a different weapon/setup to make things easier, or because they were weak to a certain type of build. Here they made sure that there's no way around learning the whole moveset.

(even certain prosthetics or buffs might make things easier, you're still probably going to get killed if you don't know when to use them)

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:50 (one year ago) link

i think that becomes very clear the first time you get a deathblow without even taking off half a bosses health. 99% of the time its not about cheesing damage.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 3 May 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

i've been sort of lowkey sneaking playtime with this game and holy fuck i COMPLETELY missed a whole area because i never went across a bridge at one point.
love you so much from software

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 20:59 (one year ago) link

this got into my head in a big way. Stuck on Genichiro in lightning mode, all these fucking headless ghosts (they scare me), and the corrupted monk illusion.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

took out true corrupted monk last night even without getting the second phase aerial deathblow everyone seems to do - surprised myself but he can go down pretty quick with a lot of deflecting. trying to do all 4 endings in one playthrough - Shura is done, doing the rest now. still loving it.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 24 May 2019 13:19 (one year ago) link

I got to the final boss two weeks ago, attempted for a few hours, put it down and haven’t picked it back up again. :/

Hopefully get back to it, but won’t have time for at least another week. Will be a little rusty.

circa1916, Friday, 24 May 2019 13:37 (one year ago) link

trying to do all 4 endings in one playthrough

Oh, I didn't know this was possible. So it doesn't actually, y'know, end after you get an ending?

I did the Isshin one and I never experienced Owl pt. 2.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 May 2019 14:35 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

i am soooooooo bad at this. chances of reaching an ending: 2-3%

i'm stuck at the damn boss right after the ogre (general tenzen), even though i can now reliably start the fight with all of his henchmen eliminated and 1 deathblow down due to stealth.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 05:03 (one month ago) link

i think it clicks? at some point the combat clicks? or you just throw it down in rage, misery and frustration and never go back to it idk.

Fizzles, Friday, 19 June 2020 11:37 (one month ago) link

I'm... okay? at this game, I've done p much all there is to do including most of the quest lines, and I can't see myself ever beating that final boss. Has anyone here managed that?

Neil S, Friday, 19 June 2020 12:40 (one month ago) link

oh and

*SPOILERS*

that big red demon seems like no fun to grind away at, so I've not killed him either

Neil S, Friday, 19 June 2020 12:42 (one month ago) link

no, i screwed up because i didn’t listen to so and so whispering to someone else which meant although i’d closed off i think two of the remaining paths. never fought the fire demon or the last boss. enjoyed it a lot but i’m not *really* sure why. it lacks the strange and fragmentary mythos and metaphysics of dark souls and bloodborne. and the environments aren’t that potent. but the combat is v pure once you get the hang of it. and the boss fights are *intense*, in the way the combat system forces you to remain persistently engaged and make incredibly quick judgments.

Fizzles, Friday, 19 June 2020 12:47 (one month ago) link

it's definitely more explicit in terms of its storyline. I found it very atmospheric, and I think the environment is as ingenious as that in DS1, possibly more so as it changes over the course of the game as the plot pushes on. I agree about the combat, it's an absolute joy to take out a boss that you had previously thought was invincible, even more so than the Souls games as there's no recourse to outside help and little scope for cheesing.

Neil S, Friday, 19 June 2020 13:40 (one month ago) link

I did the last boss and the fire demon, both of which were worthwhile and my most memorable parts of the game. That could just be because they were at the end, but it's probably because they took the longest to learn.

(I think I did use the flame umbrella on the demon, which protects you from the move where he jumps into the sky)

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:43 (one month ago) link

Also this series is essential viewing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mmP5jOWemI

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:47 (one month ago) link

scrub dojo - this sounds like my dojo

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 June 2020 15:25 (one month ago) link

xxp okay I will go back and give it another go (or 100 goes!), does that vide provide some useful hints?

Neil S, Friday, 19 June 2020 16:01 (one month ago) link

video!

Neil S, Friday, 19 June 2020 16:02 (one month ago) link

enter the dojo

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 June 2020 16:09 (one month ago) link

I don't think he's made videos about those last bosses yet, but lots of good info about the mechanics and entertainment value is high imo. There are plenty of other videos of other people doing it if you're into that.

Looking upthread apparently it took me at least three hours to learn the final boss. :) I'm sure if I started Sekiro again today it would take me quite awhile to get back into the rhythm of it.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 19 June 2020 16:23 (one month ago) link


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