US Politics April 2019 Thread: 'I find that pretty hard to believe'

More incoherent than usual. He damned the Dems last month for giving a shit about Russia, he damns them now for lacking a courage that he thought was zeal in March. Fuck him.

Oh, he was on Tucker yesterday talking about how there is nothing bad in the Mueller report, and now he pretends to want impeachment?

shut up, foreign asshole

let's deal w/ that statement. any doubt?

ok, fuck glenn greenwald

greenwald forfeits the right to be taken seriously by hobnobbing with Tucker Carlson, he has handed in his union card & is scabbing for the other side now

"Sure, he delivered a sermon at Westboro Baptist Church -- but let's see what he said in that sermon!" permanent no thanks

He had his use in 2004-2009, for which I'm grateful. Now I have no patience for a man who gets his jollies accusing Dems of a cowardice whose contours he can define one tweet at a time, often at a remove, always high enough for him to avoid sullying his conscience.

let's deal w/ that statement. any doubt?

I feel like we should wait to see what Dennis Perrin has to say before beginning discussion in earnest. Let us know, won't you?

I've a friend with whom I'm losing patience because he emphasizes, "Of course Trump is terrible, but." The "but" is an example of Democratic perfidy. There is no "but"! Insisting one exists is creating an equivalence.

glenn greenwald takes “high on his own farts” to new levels

shut up, foreign asshole

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, April 19, 2019 6:38 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol thought for a second you were turning on greenwald

hahaha c'mon doc, glenn greenwald is like 10 gajillion times more sanctimonious/patronizing/disingenuous than fred b. fuck him.

FPed you for that comment Morbs. I get you guys butt heads all the time, but that's getting into some ugly xenophobic territory.

I cannot tell a lie, I LOL'ed.

Can we agree that Karl Malone is a welcome beacon of comparative sanity itt?

getting into some ugly xenophobic territory.

glad you got the joke, genius

but i'll see you poltics guys just b4 the Iowa caucuses, ta

and Soto, u read the fucking NRO, pick yr pariahs more consistently

I study Greenwald and NRO like pathogens.

lol, as a longtime lurker if i actually thought morbs could step away i would be pissed. the levels of sanctimony and self-righteousness his pseudo-retweets provoke is truly wonderful.

also, glennwald can be a truly odious prick and correct on this one issue, which it kinda seems like he is (on both counts)

Morbs, this type of "humor" is far less amusing than you may think.

"Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy." - Michael O'Donoghue

Yeah, I liked that quote a lot when I was a nihilistic teenager, too.

"Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy."

Ilxor itself was relatively split on the merits of impeachment

Impeach Trump Y/N

I'm in favor of impeachment, but I'm also fine with Putin deciding Trump is no longer of value and slipping some polonium into his KFC.

but i'll see you poltics guys just b4 the Iowa caucuses, ta

constantly threatening to leave a thread that you’ve single-handedly turned unreadable is the purest form of comedy

trump said the report was "total bullshit" today

tbf he's an expert in total bullshit

trump said the report was "total bullshit" today

And apparently reached orgasm and passed out right after, because that tweet ends with an ellipse that's never picked up in the next one.

the more i get a chance to dig into the mueller report, the more slimy barr's pre-emptive press conference yesterday morning seems. he completely distorted the tenor of the report, and he did so before anyone could call him out on it because it wasn't even released yet. what a fucking asshole

If impeachment isn't a valid option in this instance I don't understand why it exists as an option at all.

impeachment is only an option when the opposing political party has at least 67 members in the senate, as the founding fathers intended

failing that, all consequences for being the slimiest human in the executive branch must be deferred until after the subsequent presidential election, when the enlightened masses have had their say

Trump spazzing on twitter all morning about the report seems to hint that the shifting narrative on this away from 'total exoneration' to 'actually no.... should probably go to congress' is rattling him.

all consequences for being the slimiest human in the executive branch must be deferred until after the subsequent presidential election, when the enlightened masses have had their say they can be forgotten about because we must "look forward"

we must issue pre-emptive pardons to the entire trump administration so that we can look forward. we must manufacture our own blinders and then tend to them. there is no present or past, only the exponential future

bloop beep doop 0101

Yes I melted your entire family but let us look together upon the promise of a new day

It's the narcissism. Exonerate or no, the smartest thing he could do is just let it slide. But he can't do that, so he will keep bringing it up again again again. The guy on the TV yesterday expressed amazement at how close he came to cooking up an obstruction charge all by himself, digging the hole deeper again and again even as those around him kept filling the dirt back in.

So the report that he yesterday claimed exonerated him, today is bullshit?

Bummer - time for a second investigation then.

popping in to register my appreciation of Morbs’ consistent cultural touchstones

Impeachment is only for presidents who shoot someone on 5th Avenue iirc.

Third Avenue is fair game

If impeachment isn't a valid option in this instance I don't understand why it exists as an option at all.

The convention that wrote the constitution struggled with this, too. They were fixated on the English example, that found no better method to resolve a deep conflict between the legislative and executive than to behead the king and fight a bloody civil war. The founders' eventual compromise was to make the grounds for impeachment very open-ended, but conviction hard to accomplish. They were dissatisfied with this 'solution', but could think of nothing better.

If impeachment isn't a valid option in this instance I don't understand why it exists as an option at all.

impeachment is only an option when the opposing political party has at least 67 members in the senate, as the founding fathers intended

a big argument against impeachment is the political risk, but i don't see it, not now. if anything it seems politically advantageous for democrats, now that the mueller report is out. if the house impeaches, the senate holds a trial and the very obviously guilty donald trump's slimy behavior is the news for several months, and the GOP embrace of trump will either grow tighter or looser - either way leading to negative political consequences, imo

exactly

you'd think that would work, Karl, but Trump's slimy behavior was no secret in 2016, nor was the GOP full embrace of Trump and their blind eye to his sliminess. we've come a long way down that road since then and nothing ever seems to change in regards to Trump's immunity from his own toxic bacteria.

It's not clear Trump really won in 2016, it's sounding more and more like a number of battleground states had their results fiddled with by Russian hackers. That election was likely stolen. The Mueller report itself addresses this.