Mordy otm
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Thursday, 18 April 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
Lead article on front page right now is basically an advert for change UK with no actual news content.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 April 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link
i bet it didn't cost that much either.
― calzino, Saturday, 20 April 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link
is marina hyde for real
― ... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Saturday, 20 April 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
The Guardian front page, Wednesday 15 May 2019: Mordaunt to give veterans amnesty for battle crimes pic.twitter.com/IIvuk3n8rk— The Guardian (@guardian) May 14, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:05 (four years ago) link
wth is a battle crime
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link
"battle crimes" indeed.
there was a program about the menace of US big pharma/the opioid epidemic on R4 last night and guess who ran one of them pseudo-articles with dangerous advertising bluster disguised as an opinion piece for Purdue Pharma. much much worse than they used to be.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link
tbh I'm presuming it was for Purdue Pharma cos that's mainly who they were talking about, but if it was some other US big pharma -quelle difference.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:22 (four years ago) link
I also note that the piece says NI would be exempted - so the Guardian just casually betting that its readers won’t care about war crimes committed against Iraqis and Afghans then. Cool!
― gyac, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link
surely they can come up with some better euphemism than ‘battle crimes’ ffs, they’re getting a much lower class of spin doctor in whitehall nowadays
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
Lol battle crimes
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link
Combat... mischief
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:17 (four years ago) link
Armed Unpleasantness
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:18 (four years ago) link
collateral comeuppances
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link
The BBC uses the phrase "actions on the battlefield abroad" which seems even more mealy-mouthed if anything, feels like the Guardian has at least taken care to put the word 'crimes' in there. I assume that war crimes committed in prisons, among civilian populations etc are excluded here, let me consult my Ladybird Book of Atrocities.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link
"shooting non-christians" would appear clean enough
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:27 (four years ago) link
i dunno, our brave boys have some form in extrajudicially executing christians too tbf
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:30 (four years ago) link
"extracurricular tomfoolery" = killing Iraqi civilians 'fer the lark.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link
xp yes but NI is to be exempt from
wait a sec
non-voters, thats it.
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure that, for the Johnny Mercers of this world, this is mostly about NI. After all, Iraqis Afghans, the Irish, what's the difference?
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link
... as if on cue,
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/15/northern-ireland-troubles-soldiers-should-be-given-amnesty-says-mordaunt
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Don't know if it's just me, but when I read a front page banner article called "Peterborough prepares for byelection that could elect first Brexit party MP" I want to know something about this fuck who is about to be elected, not yet another Brexitland safari. They don't even mention his name.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/02/peterborough-prepares-for-byelection-that-could-see-first-brexit-party-mp
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 2 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Guardian's deputy editor @paul__johnson joined state censorship D-Notice committee (run by MOD) after Snowden revelations in sop to British spooks. In board minutes, they thank him for being "instrumental in re-establishing links" between UK mil/intel and Guardian. Explains a lot pic.twitter.com/kN27T0QoMm— Matt Kennard (@DCKennard) June 11, 2019
― ogmor, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
when they become subservient bootlickers to the secret services it can't be called the 4th estate anymore, it smells like the turd estate if anything.
― calzino, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
Look I know the title of this thread is rhetorical. But still. Still!
Absolutely unbelievable pic.twitter.com/WKHtcPkuao— Running Dog (@benton_dan) June 15, 2019
― stress tweeting (gyac), Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link
god bless our traditionally unbiased gutter press... grrr.. well until the last few weeks damn them!
― calzino, Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link
The article itself isn't as egregiously bad as that tweet makes it out to be:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/15/tory-leadership-boris-johnson-westminster-media
― pomenitul, Saturday, 15 June 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link
Ha. Wrote this Guardian preview in a kind of blind fury before emailing it off; thoroughly expecting them to ask me to tone it down. They didn't change a word. Good on 'em. pic.twitter.com/IF0g1FVJl9— Ali Catterall (@AliCatterall) June 15, 2019
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 15 June 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
There's a columnist for Guardian Australia, Brigid Delaney, whose every fucking column is "I don't understand how basic human interaction works and also I did something massively stupid with obvious catastrophic consequences and wah poor me", and even just seeing the titles of her pieces are enough to drive my up the fucking wall.
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Monday, 17 June 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link
Brigid Delaney was the 'Tiny Train World' woman also
― Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 17 June 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Saturday, 15 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
You may (rightly) take issue with her ridiculous vision of the past, but the whole point of her piece is that it is absurd to assume the UK is utterly foreign to the kinds of abuses we routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries, so it is less awful than what its title implies, yes.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
we they routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries...
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
It also has rhetorical value: the average reader is likelier to accept this argument than if the article started with a sentence such as 'Britain has always been a racist, genocidal empire'.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link
I think that's exactly what the subtitle implies ?
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link
also there is no average reader
Everything is awful and immoral, sorry.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
but the whole point of her piece is that it is absurd to assume the UK is utterly foreign to the kinds of abuses we routinely attribute to 'other', less 'civilised' countries, so it is less awful than what its title implies, yes.
Who is she disabusing of this assumption? Even Guardian readers are aware of how much the media is owned by the oligarchy and publish points that are in their interest. People saying 'we aren;t as bad as Italy' isn't as much of a thing.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link
well there is the small matter of Murdoch picking our PM's for the last 4 decades as well!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link
afaik there is no morality just a screaming mass of pure being
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link
You forgot nothingness.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
I am a parmenidean on this point
― ogmor, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link
There's nothing quite like something.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link
As ever, yes.
Why is it so hard for Labour to find a woman for its inner circle? | Suzanne Moore https://t.co/zz0n725qMg— Guardian politics (@GdnPolitics) June 17, 2019
― stress tweeting (gyac), Monday, 17 June 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
Emily Thornberry couldn’t be called on to do PMQs as she made the terrible faux pas of telling the truth about the European elections
erm yeah whatever.. wasn't her stand in Rebecca Long-Bailey you fucking weapon!
― calzino, Monday, 17 June 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
She’s done a massive flounce after being ratioed to Hell and back by annoyed women of colour, some of whom are pointing out that she mustered 258 votes when she tried to challenge Diane Abbott as an independent PPC in 2010.
― suzy, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
This whole thing is shameful:
Disgusting to see @Haroon_Siddique and @jimwaterson laundering a flagrantly dishonest right wing hit job on Aman here. The actual story is "professional smear merchant attacks left winger", but Guido doesn't even get a mentionhttps://t.co/tZHZMpK1YD— Sam 🌹 (@samfoster99) June 19, 2019
Labour activist asks question in the BBC Tory leadership debate
Guido Fawkes screenshots a tweet of his making fun of Candice Owen’s position on Hitler, misrepresenting it as his own view by cropping the context
Guardian, Independent and BBC report ‘controversy ensuing over tweets’ and ‘claims the tweet was a parody’, presenting his as contested, while removing any mention of Fawkes
Labour activist is suspended from job.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link
Solomon Hughes has a good thread on this clusterfuck
(1) For some years , UK Liberal media have warned reckless, bullying authoritarian politicians and their supporter mob will attack the press ,using smear stories. Now it is actually happening, with the BBC and Aman Thakar, and much of the same media are.....joining in— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) June 20, 2019
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
a new low for the graun. I wasn't shocked that they were GCHQ bootlickers, but they seem to be breaking new ground here.
― calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
I’m really surprised that Leigh Day gave into the narrative and suspended this guy (for those who don’t know, they’re a reliable lefty practice of the sort that activists write on their arms in case they get caught in a kettle at demos).
― suzy, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link