As stated, £1000 in 1967 would have been close to £18,000. A lot has been made of how much less Please Please Me cost in comparison to Sgt. Pepper's, but the £400 reported cost of Please Please Me would be about £8,300 today.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
XP That's correct. Millions of people were gutted to discover on the 15th Feb 1971 that the money they'd left in their wallets over the weekend had suddenly turned into pixie dust. jfc my head hurts
― The Gapes of Wrath (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 April 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link
They technically were. The only similarity between the pre-decimalisation pound and the post-decimalisation pound is the word pound.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 06:44 (five years ago) link
“Am I out of touch?...No, it’s the pounds that are wrong.”
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Monday, 15 April 2019 07:31 (five years ago) link
I'm sorry I've been away and missed the last week or more of this thread
― Neil S, Monday, 15 April 2019 08:52 (five years ago) link
there has been some coin-clipping going on, call the sheriff!
― calzino, Monday, 15 April 2019 09:00 (five years ago) link
There's been inteense discussion of how many bawbeees and groats it cost to record Screamadelica.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 09:18 (five years ago) link
A lot of double e's there, like I'm posting in an Ayrshire accent or sumthin'
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 09:23 (five years ago) link
fuckin' shillings, how do they work?
― Neil S, Monday, 15 April 2019 09:34 (five years ago) link
Indie musicians these days haven't got a brass farthing to their name, let alone shillings.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 09:46 (five years ago) link
no worries, there are more than enough posh hobbyists about to make up the indie quotas :p
― calzino, Monday, 15 April 2019 09:51 (five years ago) link
go to keep pace with other leading EU zones with our output of indifferent mediocre rock music if global britain is going to be a success.
― calzino, Monday, 15 April 2019 09:59 (five years ago) link
The (Innovative) Jam.
― koogs, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:23 (five years ago) link
Did we ever figure out why hip-hop sucked in '96?
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:24 (five years ago) link
it's the shillings IIRC
― Neil S, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:24 (five years ago) link
We are the dollars and cents and the pounds and penceAnd the mark and the yen, and yeah We're gonna crack your little souls
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:27 (five years ago) link
We are the dollars and cents and the *pounds and pence
(*the post decimalization pound, of course)
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:29 (five years ago) link
this discussion actually felt pretty constructive before all the snark
more Simpsons references please, my sides are seriously splitting
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link
I agree, but y'know what this place is like, some folks just can't help themselves.
Odyssey & Oracle is a better sounding record than Sgt. Pepper
I agree that it sounds better, even if the production isn't as ambitious. Of course, Geoff Emerick engineered both records, and having literally just come off the Sgt. Pepper's sessions then he would have been the best person to dial up a great sound quickly having already done the painstaking experimental work with The Beatles.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link
some folks just can't help themselves.
We noticed.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link
^ See what I mean?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link
Not been 51'd yet?
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link
this thread has taken some weird fuckin turns since the last time i checked in
― arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link
I've learned a lot.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
a sterling example of ilx at its best
― sarahell, Monday, 15 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
Like solar eclipses, such threads only occur once every 18 months on average.
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 April 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
All I’m reading is divergent opinions being discussed, interrupted by people being shitty to Turrican for having different opinions
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link
It seems like people are primarily responding to his past transgressions, of which I'm not really aware, as we tend not to haunt the same threads.
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link
he has a really obnoxious way of expressing himself, however, i must be the problem
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link
he also tends to derail discussions into their most awful forms possible, which is guess is also a case of divergent opinions being discussed so fine
glad turrican is here he's bringing so much to the table
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link
"different opinions" meaning "alternative facts", or maybe just "talking bullshit"
some things are either true or false, whether the British pound changed value on decimalisation is not really up for debate
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:07 (five years ago) link
i am really tired of making this case so i will stop if y'all think he's fine or whatever
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
No I'm pretty sure most of us think he's a turrible cant
― like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
I used to not quite get why he bugged ppl so much — then I “snapped” and lost my cool recently, so now I just ignore him.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link
17 Indie Artists on Their Oddest Odd Jobs That Pay the Bills When Music Doesn’t (yet another poll about noted ILM user Turrican)
― pomenitul, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
trying to decide which of these tedious topics are the worst: production cost of "classic" albums, the importance and quality of "classic albums," Turrican's posting
― sarahell, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
so, for all the other countries where musicians get government money for being musicians, are there rules and/or a process whereby one gets to call themselves a musician?
― sarahell, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
There'd be no problen with Turrican if he could handle the fact that people might not agree with everything he says and that they are going to pull him up on things he gets wrong - and if he dropped the obnoxious attitude when they do.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link
he has a really obnoxious way of expressing himself, however, i must be the problem― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, April 15, 2019 3:05 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag PostPermalink
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, April 15, 2019 3:05 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag PostPermalink
While we're on the subject of expressing oneself obnoxiously, it's worth pointing out this point that only one of the two of us has called the other a "shithead" or "huge dumbass" over the last few months, and it certainly wasn't me to you.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link
There'd be no problen with Turrican if he could handle the fact that people might not agree with everything he says and that they are going to pull him up on things he gets wrong - and if he dropped the obnoxious attitude when they do.― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.),Monday, April 15, 2019 3:30 PM (twenty-five seconds ago)Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.),Monday, April 15, 2019 3:30 PM (twenty-five seconds ago)Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In the case of this particular thread - and others - I'd say it was the other way 'round.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
The first two seem like reasonable topics for a music message board imo?
I tend to agree with fgti/pomenitul that, while I disagree with some of Turrican's opinions itt, and think some of what he's saying is wrong, he doesn't really deserve to be piled on.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
All I’m reading is divergent opinions being discussed, interrupted by people being shitty to Turrican for having different opinions― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, April 15, 2019 3:01 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, April 15, 2019 3:01 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, this is pretty much OTM, really. Also, my patience only runs so far so when people are being shitty to me for this reason, they shouldn't then find themselves surprised when I eventually snap and be shitty back. Of course, naturally I'd rather not do this and would rather stay on topic, but here we are!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
Thanks Sund4r :)
Have you never wondered why otherwise mild mannered posters get into shouting matches with the guy?
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link
I've no idea who you're referring to there, but if that's the case then perhaps they're not actually that mild-mannered.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
And can we get back on topic?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, April 15, 2019 8:30 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
all right, i'm out, enjoy turrican everyone
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
Maybe not, but then I don't see them butting heads with too many other people. (xxp)
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
At least in Canada, you submit applications for grants for projects and a committee decides whether you get the grant. (You can apply to get your living costs covered at a subsistence level while you are working on these projects.) I think this happens in the US too, just less often. Idk if there are countries where you can get paid just for calling yourself a musician.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link