Why do people leave ILX for good?

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Y'all never heard of "social democracy"? That's the economic system I adhere to and doesn't sound at all "communist". Especially the way it exists in the mixed economies of the Scandinavian countries, who all also happen to rank the highest in global freedom indexes. BTW, one of my FB friends is a co-founder of the Libertarian Socialist Caucus (Mike Shipley).

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:06 (seven months ago) link

trouble with the scandinavian countries is that they have a lot of space, a lot of resources and really no poverty to speak of

it's a great system if you can afford it

idk. surely libertarian socialism is an admirable end-goal but there's a hell of a lot of work to be done before it can be implemented anywhere with a serious poverty problem

imago, Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:11 (seven months ago) link

As I understand the term "social democracy" it would align pretty darn well with strictly regulated markets and align very poorly with any version of libertarianism or randian free market capitalism I have ever encountered. In which case, I'm in your corner, despite the confusion of terminology over your identity as a "leftist libertarian/free market socialist".

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:11 (seven months ago) link

trouble with the scandinavian countries is that they have a lot of space, a lot of resources and really no poverty to speak of

― imago, 13. april 2019 21:11 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's not really true of Denmark.

Frederik B, Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:27 (seven months ago) link

I'm not sure people think of Denmark when they talk about Scandinavian Social Democracy, it's always Sweden or Norway.

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:30 (seven months ago) link

It helps that they’re all ethnostates

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2019 19:48 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty much the key thing

Frederik B, Saturday, 13 April 2019 20:10 (seven months ago) link

and lj should be mod, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 April 2019 20:20 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hHSH9sJUEo

omar little, Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:35 (seven months ago) link

why would being an ethnostate help with social democracy?

most ethnostates are not harmonious social democracies and sweden has had quite a bit of immigration: wiki sez a third of swedes have at least one parent born abroad.

ogmor, Saturday, 13 April 2019 23:43 (seven months ago) link

jamiroquai is a hot couch guy ime

rip van wanko, Sunday, 14 April 2019 00:07 (seven months ago) link

hot couch guy is one of the most evocative descriptions spawned in recent years imo

mh, Sunday, 14 April 2019 02:55 (seven months ago) link

What does it describe?

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 14 April 2019 06:50 (seven months ago) link

ilx is pretty much the last public place on the internet i like and i will continue to make empty threads for emo albums until someone stops me

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:05 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

respect

flopson, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:29 (seven months ago) link

I'm a bit over participating on the internet. Ive said all I need to say online over the last almost 20 years, and I'm a boring, middle aged stepmom now. NO one cares what I think. I'l happily read stuff from others though.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce)

i am also boring and middle aged and i think this pretty much sums up where i'm at too. well said!

― the late great, Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:48 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just keep posting heaters

flopson, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:29 (seven months ago) link

Even though I'm maybe 15% as enthusiastic and optimistic as I was the last time I was a regular? Wow, this site must be a LOT darker than it used to be! Anyway, Facebook (or certain groups in it and my similarly political friends) has turned me into a leftist libertarian/free market socialist, and there's a wider scope of political dialogue than would be found here on ILX, where as far as I can tell most everyone still reduces libertarianism to the caricatures of Roger Adultery and Murray Rothbard (if not a complete misinterpretation of Ayn Rand).

― The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is your favourite super mario character wario?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:39 (seven months ago) link

trouble with the scandinavian countries is that they have a lot of space, a lot of resources and really no poverty to speak of

it's a great system if you can afford it

idk. surely libertarian socialism is an admirable end-goal but there's a hell of a lot of work to be done before it can be implemented anywhere with a serious poverty problem

― imago, Saturday, 13 April 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We'll just hit your trust fund harder.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:47 (seven months ago) link

Grow up will you, for even five minutes of your tiny, tiny life.

FernandoHierro, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:50 (seven months ago) link

No

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:51 (seven months ago) link

What does it describe?

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:50 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hot couch guys, of course

mh, Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:55 (seven months ago) link

My trust fund? Lol

imago, Sunday, 14 April 2019 13:59 (seven months ago) link

Can't you two just act like every thread is a golf thread?

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:02 (seven months ago) link

Clutch from Tom D there

imago, Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:05 (seven months ago) link

I'm a bit over participating on the internet. Ive said all I need to say online over the last almost 20 years, and I'm a boring, middle aged stepmom now. NO one cares what I think. I'l happily read stuff from others though.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce)

i am also boring and middle aged and i think this pretty much sums up where i'm at too. well said!

― the late great, Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:48 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just keep posting heatersabout teaching

― flopson, Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:29 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:23 (seven months ago) link

It’s tough when you’ve got over the initial heady enthusiasms of youth to think about what can be interesting and entertaining enough to post about. Hopefully new enthusiasms come along though.

I personally avoid the internet and ilx when I’m feeling irritable and disagreeable (best for everyone) -which can be for long stretches at a time.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:45 (seven months ago) link

Heaters?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 April 2019 05:28 (seven months ago) link

We're all about heaters. I guess.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2019 05:36 (seven months ago) link

if nobody answered andrew farrell upthread, hot couch guy

if you can, ignore the article and read the tweets. they are truer to the concept than the commentary, which paints a too-specific (and kinda hacky) image. real hot couch guy hours in the tweets tho

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:22 (seven months ago) link

I get the initial "hot couch" concept of it being a faux-leather sticky situation, but imo the concept of a dude who spends way too much time on the couch, maybe even sleeps there regularly, is the base for me

coffee table covered in fast food containers and empty cans/bottles, maybe an ashtray or bong that is always sitting there. game controllers and tv remotes.

I've... approached hot couch times in my life

mh, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:26 (seven months ago) link

i feel like an important element of hot couch guy is that, like, he always has people over to crash after drinking/getting high, so it's less about him sleeping on his hot couch and more about you/someone else sleeping on his hot couch.

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:31 (seven months ago) link

i clean my couch environs on the reg, theres ways and means of gittin er done without slipping into hotcouching

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:35 (seven months ago) link

this thread in particualr was what spawned the hot couch guy thing iirc

Hey man we’re all going to hang out at this dudes place again for some reason even though he has like three places to sit, smokes inside, plays the same shitty rap and the only source of light is from one shitty overhead

— smiling again (@intellegint) February 24, 2018

ciderpress, Monday, 15 April 2019 15:58 (seven months ago) link

Thank you all for coming together as a community for me!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:35 (seven months ago) link

warming the cockles of your couch

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 15 April 2019 17:43 (seven months ago) link

there was a great bar conversation I overheard a couple years back where these guys were talking about having all lived together in a rented house and it was the house version of hot couch

i'm also reminded of an ilx thread where -- I think it was gr80? -- was talking about taking a shower at someone's place and there was loose change in the bathtub, had been there long enough there was a green crust cementing the pennies

mh, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:47 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

the lack of diversity around here can be pretty glaring. everybody i know on twitter has been talking toni morrison for days but here only 6 new answers?

marcos, Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:23 (three months ago) link

yes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:29 (three months ago) link

idk that I have much of value to say about her. Read a bunch in college as part of lit course curriculum, obviously an amazing and hugely important writer.

but yeah I suppose one would have expected more traffic on ILB on her passing.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:31 (three months ago) link

I come here because I want a break from books.

pomenitul, Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:33 (three months ago) link

I read Sula and Song of Solomon in college. They were both great books, but I don't remember enough about them to have made any comments of significance.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:35 (three months ago) link

it depends on what kind of "diversity" you want to see on ilx... after the shooting in my hometown two weeks ago, I was fed more local posts, and got to see plenty of "thoughts and prayers" people that I usually filter out, as well as friends, who have fairly compatible political values to me, apologizing to people for being "too negative" and "too divisive" about calling for gun control and blaming the current government on the increase in racist mass murderers.

But yeah, my fb feed has been heavy on Toni Morrison since she passed ... I don't expect ilx to mirror my irl community, like if it did, I wouldn't post here?

sarahell, Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:42 (three months ago) link

I was meaning to post the following in that thread, which would have brought it up to 7 new answers:

The most “I don’t see colour” thing I ever heard was when my friend claimed not only that he didn’t realise Toni Morrison was black, not having seen an author photo, but that he got halfway through reading BELOVED without realising the CHARACTERS were black

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:53 (three months ago) link

i guess the question is one of mostly static board growth. i think there's, on average, about a hundred to 120 people active on ILX at any given time, lurkers aside. It's the same group we've had on her for a half decade or more. Racist alt-right gun nuts are obviously not our target audience (no pun intended) but it's hard not to argue that we wouldn't benefit from an infusion of twenty or thirty new voices, preferably bringing in greater diversity of views while not being overwhelming assholes/trolls/chuds

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:54 (three months ago) link

e got halfway through reading BELOVED without realising the CHARACTERS were black

this is amazing. more like "I don't see words" than "I don't see colour" lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 August 2019 15:58 (three months ago) link

I was like “...they’re literally former slaves” and he said “that’s not apparent right away”

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:01 (three months ago) link

we used to have more don weiner types, it's true.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:02 (three months ago) link

the lack of diversity around here can be pretty glaring. everybody i know on twitter has been talking toni morrison for days but here only 6 new answers?

― marcos, Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:23 AM (thirty-three minutes ago)

yes, it is bad, and it's been a problem for a very long time. and as ulysses says above, it doesn't get any better because we're not really getting many new posters, for the most part. it's very noticeable not just when a prominent person of color dies and there's not much discussion (in the aftermath, or even of the person's work beforehand), and also in political threads where so many of us have the privilege of referencing deportations and institutionalized racism in a detached, joking manner because we're not the people directly targeted or affected

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:03 (three months ago) link

the point is not that we need to gin up response to events outside our experience but that the community's homogeneity is showing and it's part of the reason why the petri dish is souring a bit

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:32 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ulysses u posted this in the other thread but i'm bringing it here because you are right

it doesn't really have anything to do w/ toni morrison specifically but more the general notion that, say, a black woman who made art mostly about and for other black women isn't really being talked about on this board primarily because we have no black women who actively post on this board

marcos, Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:05 (three months ago) link

or, in another form, when more terrible abortion news comes in, and most of us are in the position of being a bunch of dudes criticizing some shitty state for electing a bunch of dudes to make a decision about women's bodies. "look at that photo of a group of overwhelmingly male legislators passing a bill to ban abortion, it's so sickly ironic!", says me, sickly and ironically, as a dude on an overwhelmingly male posters

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:06 (three months ago) link

xp

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 August 2019 16:06 (three months ago) link


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