Why does Lady Gaga get a free pass from hipsters?

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GIS for "40+ Israeli transvestite" pulls up a lot of British transvestites/cross-dressers. And Rudy Giuliani.

1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

hipsters like her because she is ugly. hipsters like ugly.

sorry.

akm, Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

40+ Israeli transvestite essentially means you're referring to Dana International, right? I see it.

Mordy, Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

she kinda reminds me of Maya Rudolph doing Donatella Versace

i give a fuck about them haters, young shipple been gettin paper (some dude), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly all the ugly talk kinda makes me want to root for her in a way.

i read that rolling stone article she seemed okay.

like on one level i think her and peaches are pretty much total balls from a music perspective..but it bums me out that there seems to be a certain level of extra intense hate for them that comes from them being maybe not conventionally "pretty" but still casting themselves as sex symbols or sexy.

like people hate them for it or something, which seems like a pretty bummer misogynistic trip to me.

i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

it is too bad that so many music nerds are turning to misogyny--used to be just about the least sexist group of people i can think of

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't buy it

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly all the ugly talk kinda makes me want to root for her in a way.

i read that rolling stone article she seemed okay.

like on one level i think her and peaches are pretty much total balls from a music perspective..but it bums me out that there seems to be a certain level of extra intense hate for them that comes from them being maybe not conventionally "pretty" but still casting themselves as sex symbols or sexy.

like people hate them for it or something, which seems like a pretty bummer misogynistic trip to me.

― i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:18 PM (21 minutes ago)

dude come on dont be such a pussy here...you don't know people irl who wear ridiculous outfits they can't pull off and think really highly of themselves even though they're ugly as fuck and have no good qualities? those are the most annoying people!!

makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been trying very hard not to make "lol she ugly" jokes because everyone is making them and it feels like a gross pile-on session. Sometimes I fail. Life goes on.

1899 Horsey Horseless (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i really gained no sympathy from her through the rs piece, but the thought of her sad and alone and coked out and obsessed with fame.....i dunno, she's probably not a v. happy person despite the fact that this is what she wants to be doing.

pretty/ugly don't really matter to me, her look can be kinda cool i guess but you gotta back it up with songs, and her songs fucking blow.

DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

dude come on dont be such a pussy here...you don't know people irl who wear ridiculous outfits they can't pull off and think really highly of themselves even though they're ugly as fuck and have no good qualities? those are the most annoying people!!

― makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:42 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalin

IRL? not really, actually. i don't hang out with like blog fashion MIA type fans and shit.

i see hott ppl wear shit that they can't pull off, that no human being can pull off too...

i'm just saying the "ugly" thing keeps coming up in a way that seems weird to me...

but anyway my opinion was so obvious it was pretty much a challop to begin with as max and blueski pointed out right away anyway.

i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh good, an excuse to post this again:

http://i41.tinypic.com/neth8x.jpg

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

exactly the same yahoo question thread on Ciara i'm sure

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"but it's Ciara not HEara" i am confused

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I just love that that's the Best Answer. Like Brad read that and was like, "Oh, good point, case closed."

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

uh, is brad a man?

iatee, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

no rude answers plz

iatee, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think GaGa is ugly at all.. and her body is great.

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

btw this thread is gay.

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I think here is a good point for me to re-post my kid story from the Rolling Pop thread:

"Yesterday in the car ride home from daycare, "Poker Face" came on and my four-year-old said, "I hate this song. When she says pa-pa-pa-poker I think she is going to poke me wif a screwdriber." First, I had never heard him use the word hate. Second, I'm a fan of the song but I kinda think his description tells a deeper story of why many are not.

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matt2, Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

matt i agree w u--kevin u are being stupid

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone else remember being bombarded LG with full page ads on the myspace login screen for like a month and then huge banner ads after that?

Some folks are making it sound like she had some kind of organic home grown success. You don't get that kind of promo without a lot of corporate PR dollars behind you. It seems like they have spent a lot of money to push her image and her single into Clear Channel radio. Not that it is shocking or unusual for this to happen with pop music, but in her case it seemed really evident in a way that you wouldn't see with a Britney.

Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Display Name), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah...for like 6 months last year i thought of LG as a really failed major label push, MTV played "Just Dance" constantly but I didn't hear anything about here anywhere or think it was getting played much on the radio...then before i know it the song goes #1 and she's suddenly inescapable.

i give a fuck about them haters, young shipple been gettin paper (some dude), Thursday, 11 June 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

this thread was supposed to be classy but you people ruined it.

makeitpop, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha oh man kudos

i would never want a book's autograph (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

40+ Israeli transvestite essentially means you're referring to Dana International, right? I see it.

yeah + my Israeli aunt, but let's not get into that.

sorta dissapointed i wasn't the first one who thought tranny, guess i am normal after all.

i don't think she's ugly though, but the whole female singers have to be naked and sing about sex all the time gets on my nerves.

like dancing with some clothes on can't be.... er.. sexy. ;)

Ludo, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

problems with this thread:
- the insane generalization that Lady Gaga gets a free pass from anyone.
- the use of the word hipster
- homophobia

the table is the table, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i really like the idea of 'Man GoGo' as a handle.

the table is the table, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

more like trannyphobia

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think GaGa is ugly at all.. and her body is great.

― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:09 PM (2 hours ago)

http://www.shakaiyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/1zegqyt.jpg

makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

that's just a bad photo... I could find a bad photo of pretty much any hot celeb.

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

not zac efron.

the table is the table, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

My own problem with Lady Gaga (and I'm assuming it's more or less ILM's problem, but I could be wrong) is that her music/image seems to be a lot less interesting than that of artists in the same vein and who haven't even come close to achieving the same commercial success.

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

problems with this thread:
- the insane generalization that Lady Gaga gets a free pass from anyone.
- the use of the word hipster
- homophobia

― the table is the table, Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:07 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

u left off both 'sexism' and 'makeitpop'

autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

and 'geir'

autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno BW, it say "ultimate lady gaga" right there

lol xpost

makeitstop (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think she's ugly. Some of her photos look amazing. A lot of them don't. But the ones that don't aren't so much cases of "bad photo day" and more "I really don't like the visual you're consicously aiming for there."

Tim F, Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yupyup, she is hella pretty and sometimes even dressed really interestingly. i haven't gone back and checked, but i feel like here was some love for lg on the rolling pop thread. why is barely anyone sticking up for her here? the tunes are really mostly not bad, and i like a few alot.

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I just checked out the video for You Belong by Hercules and Love Affair and it is a shame that they did not have the kind of commercial success that Lady Gaga is having. Obviously they are being marketed differently and are aiming at different audiences but Hercules embodies much of the same content as is just some much more interesting and well executed.

I'd like to see something as blatantly commercial as LG but with deeper references. It would be cool to see those codes cross over into the mainstream.

Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Display Name), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

but is so much more interesting and well executed.

Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Display Name), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

it does figure she has a burlesque past, everyone knows burlesque is where fat ugly girls pretend they are sexy.

thirdalternative, Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

damn homie

droppin' Hamiltons like MJB's niece (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

'You Belong' video is dope and still lovin that track

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i still think the person in that photo is Rhys Ifans

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

'You Belong' video is dope and still lovin that track

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― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:40 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

droppin' Hamiltons like MJB's niece (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i think Gaga might as well work with Ed Banger doods. peace.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't stand her but the complaints about the sexism/homophobia on this thread are otm

grow the fuck up guys

Kitchen Paper Towel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i haven't gone back and checked, but i feel like here was some love for lg on the rolling pop thread. why is barely anyone sticking up for her here?

well I was the main GaGa defender/lover in that thread and I don't feel like getting into this argument now

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

and Hercules and Love Affair's music has like no pop appeal like at all, I don't even get why you'd bring them up in here?

Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 June 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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