star wars 9 grim resignation thread

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― the late great, Friday, April 12, 2019 12:52 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

apparently ian mcdiarmid actually took the stage at the convention immediately following the laughs at the end of the trailer and said "roll it again" in the ominous voice

ian mcdiarmid was 39 when he played the emperor, mind-blowing

oh god the trailer SUUUUUUUUCKS

I mean whatever, it doesn't suck, there's just nothing compelling about this raft of movies. I can't stand Daisy Ridley's one-note acting. I can't stand JJ Abrams obsession with long shots of people breathing heavily. I can't stand the fan service stuff. This looks like an entertaining movie but not a good movie.

i got no chills

xp tbf, what other notes has daisy ridley been given to play

ridley is good.

though I think the character they gave to Felicity Jones in Rogue One was more interesting.

looks like shit, bad title. I know people shit on the last one a lot because of the wonky plot but at least it had some visual flair.

yes I think what she brings to the role (and what Driver is able to do with his as well) are what make the new series worth seeing.

I guess it’s hard for me to tell how much of the weak characterization is her and how much is the writing or directing. But it’s definitely one note.

I've accepted that all I really need out of these movies is to hear the classic foley fx on cinema speakers.

canny wait

haven't seen title; is it Rise of Nude Kylo Ren?

Rise and Fall, close

This one has to call back to Return of the Jedi and thus requires a gold underwear Kylo Ren.

I think it's a good trailer (and a terrible title), but it's a J.J. Abrams Star Wars film - I'll save my breathlessness for the Rian Johnson ones upcoming.

ha ha, that looks dumb as shit (not least for how weird scope feels in a youtube window)

was Lando in Force Awakens or is Abrams bringing him back now for nerdservice bcz too many other characters are dead? that said, grrooooosssss at using CGI Fisher. Catastrophe got by without it, you cowards.

pretty sure they (and the Fisher family) said any footage of Carrie was gonna be deleted stuff shot for the last movie tbf

Apparently it's footage shot for TLJ?

Rejected titles:

Skywalker Rising
Arise, SkyWalkers!
Skywalker Has Risen, Amen

it is not CGI Fisher

CGI Fisher would have been great in Catastrophe though

kylo’s helmet getting welded back together doesn’t bode well for abrams letting any changes johnson made in ep 8 slide

not that johnson actually followed through on any of the really interesting or surprising stuff he hinted towards, right enough

The Skywalkers

I always thought "Will of the Force" sounded like a sitcom about a jedi kid named Will. So why not "The Skywalkers"?

Shhhh... Disney+ can hear you.

it is not CGI Fisher

CGI Fisher would have been great in Catastrophe though

Fisher was never hanging out in a lush verdant forest in Last Jedi iirc, p sure they're CGIing her cut footage into new scenes

I'm totally down for her to be played throughout by a back-of-the-head double with dialogue stitched together from old audio though

REY: Thank you for leading us to safety, General Organa! The nine minutes I've spent in your company are the most profound experience of my life! [hugs]
LEIA: My voice is my passport. Verify me.

not that johnson actually followed through on any of the really interesting or surprising stuff he hinted towards, right enough

Johnson's movie takes place in about two days of movie time and seemed to wrap up everything it was telling - not knowing the previous movie maybe meant I missed lots of "surprising" stuff, but what did you think could have been followed through upon?

lol sic

"Aren't you a little short for a--JEDI"

I look forward to the 700 one-star reviews of the movie that will come out prior to the movie comes out

Johnson's movie takes place in about two days of movie time and seemed to wrap up everything it was telling - not knowing the previous movie maybe meant I missed lots of "surprising" stuff, but what did you think could have been followed through upon?

Expecting the final shots of Fisher to be as crackly blue hologram as Leia rises to...the occasion thus honouring the film's title because what other explanation for it could there even be.

I look forward to the 700 one-star reviews of the movie that will come out prior to the movie comes out

vs 70,000 proudbro declarations that they got their star war back based on the title and that final laugh alone

it makes a big deal of literally burning down the last remnants of the jedi order, which is undercut at the end by the jedi library being stashed in the falcon

my read on this is: symbolism, ritual, reverence are destroyed; the order is destroyed; knowledge is preserved

it feints towards kylo turning away from the dark side or rey turning towards it after snoke is killed

the latter could be cool in a "top the ESB cliffhanger" way but the former would be a disaster because the prospect of another jj abrams star wars movie is grim enough without "also adam driver isn't the villain anymore". nevertheless, to me, that these two characters, whose common ground is a desperation to transcend star wars, would (ironically) have violently opposed visions of what a post-star-wars star wars universe would look like, or of how to prevent it from relapsing into star wars, makes more sense than that one would now become the other's right hand. they prob will in the third one anyway tho cuz yeah none of this is going to be coherently followed up.

that trailer is just shots of things i recognize intercut with captions telling the third generation in a row that every generation has a star war. difficult to argue i guess

into every generation, a star is warn.

Oh Star Wars, nothing but Star Wars, give me those Star Wars, don’t let them end

vs 70,000 proudbro declarations that they got their star war back based on the title and that final laugh alone

― nashwan, Friday, April 12, 2019 4:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Proudbros beat up Star Wars fans

it makes a big deal of literally burning down the last remnants of the jedi order, which is undercut at the end by the jedi library being stashed in the falcon

yeah, dlh otm: hidebound clinging to totems and traditions for the sake of traditions is stupid and retards development. texts can still be studied and reinterpreted in ways that fit a new world. take note, crybaby fanboys!

eg it feints towards kylo turning away from the dark side or rey turning towards it after snoke is killed, either of which would have been more interesting than the good guy / bad guy dynamic being almost immediately re-established

this was just deepening the relationship between them - they found common ground, they are a new generation of The Force or whatever, but the weight of their and Star Wars' histories means they can't repair the damage of tradition in a matter of seconds in the heat of battle. maybe they will forge a new union in the future, in the next film, when Derek Connolly and Colin Trevorrow write it! what a fun thing to leave for the next pairs of hands on the series to have the option to play with.

(but just in case, lets also put in an ending clearly showing that this good / bad, Rebel / Empire dichotomy and hereditary power structure does not have to be the way things carry on in the Star Wars universe)

it also fits that the entitled manbaby wants to carry on throwing his destructive ego-tantrum for the rest of the film: Johnson is giving him the chance to learn (or not) from his own actions, not be magically cured by the power of wuv.

^^^^

at the end kylo is the villain because in the moment of freedom and possibility when everything can be reinterpreted and remade he decides the right way forward is to gather all power to himself. this is a much more thorough way of being a space fascist than "i work for gollum and i had darth vader sheets" so it's a big step forward for the character even if he doesn't move at all.

being left with the pairing of driver+gleeson as emotionally+ideologically committed dictator and congenital screaming toady-- now well-understood as characters and freed of all commitments to mystery-box superior officers or extratextual "lore" mumbojumbo-- was so promising that lol of course they're now promising us the emperor.

(tldr I agree with sic / dlh)

The purpose of the burning of the remnant was its effect on Luke not Rey, though.

I thought TLJ left the possibility of either of Rey and Kylo turning as very open for the third - where it will probably be squandered. It was similar to the bit we didn't see where one film ends up with Luke learning that his father fell to the dark side, and the next starting with Luke turning up dressed in black and force-choking fools.

I think I'm probably stepping on nashwan's joke here, but I do fear that the mighty JJ Abrams "brain" has in mind a switch where it's not Kylo Ren but Rey that's rising because one of her parents was actually a Skywalker too!

Welp glad we know the movie sucks now

The purpose of the burning of the remnant was its effect on Luke not Rey, though.

yes, Luke is freed by it, because he was the only one holding onto the totems. we saw his world opened and mind changed by exposure to the knowledge when he was a kid 40 years ago, but now he's stunted himself by choosing to cling sadly to the shape of something familiar, rather than continuing to see the benefit of opening his mind to new ideas.

again, it make u think

Welp glad we know the movie sucks now

JJ Abrams was announced as taking over on 6th September 2017

CGI Vincent Price for the laugh at the end there.

into every generation, a star is warn.

― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, April 12, 2019 3:36 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nicely done

Fwiw, it's got Lando and Chewy and I really like Rey and Finn so I'm in.

I will go to the cinema and watch it with my kids and it will be slightly better than some other films I could watch with them, this is all I hope for

Obviously the title refers to all the little Skywalker children that Luke left scattered across the galaxy.