Bret Easton Ellis

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ray is otm, so much of BEE's podcast is old man yelling at cloud / millennial boyfriend. but i enjoy his film commentary, even if i disagree with him most of the time.

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:44 (seven months ago) link

We could totally do without him by now, couldn't we?

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:49 (seven months ago) link

We could totally do without him by now, couldn't we?

Pretty much, yeah, and I'm someone who loved Less Than Zero, American Psycho and Glamorama (the latter in particular; I've read it four or five times).

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:01 (seven months ago) link

Lunar Park is the one... his most sincere & moving prose

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:09 (seven months ago) link

I tried Lunar Park but couldn't make it to the end.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 11 April 2019 23:11 (seven months ago) link

he's doing this to get his name in the cycle imo. if this interview goes well, who reads it? almost no-one. instead...

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:50 (seven months ago) link

does he express the same dipshitted thought-free views on his podcast for hours every week and in other interviews and in his writing as part of the same long game?

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:53 (seven months ago) link

yes

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:57 (seven months ago) link

his whole career has been exactly like this

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:58 (seven months ago) link

any decade now, he's going to write something that isn't surface-level vapid in its understanding of humans and money, and we'll all be wowed because of his careful cultivation of alternate expectations over the rest of his output

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 01:15 (seven months ago) link

Having heard many of his podcasts I'm always amused that his opening salvo about whatever he saw at ArcLight that week or some snowflake grievance is done with his guest waiting quietly there with him. He'll go in for 10 minutes before introducing them and they have to jump in wherever he is.

Yelploaf, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:04 (seven months ago) link

10? more like 45

it is a good bit

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:29 (seven months ago) link

any decade now, he's going to write something that isn't surface-level vapid in its understanding of humans and money, and we'll all be wowed because of his careful cultivation of alternate expectations over the rest of his output


this was Lunar Park

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:29 (seven months ago) link

ok I just read the interview... wow 🥵

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 03:45 (seven months ago) link

You came to the defense of Roseanne Barr, saying that she denied, after tweeting racist stuff about Valerie Jarrett, knowing Valerie Jarrett was black.

Did she say that? That she didn’t know she was black?

You say it in the book.

Yeah, right, I quoted her.


lmfao

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 03:46 (seven months ago) link

Thanks so much for talking.

It’s interesting to have that back-and-forth pull in an interview. The only problem, however, is that I am not that political, and so, when we have this conversation, and you confront me with certain things like this, I really am, I have to say, at a loss.


Awesome bret

good lord

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 03:49 (seven months ago) link

what a choad

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 April 2019 04:00 (seven months ago) link

he’s SO imperious like some regent giving audience to a scribe which is hilarious bc almost no-one gives a shit about him anymore

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 April 2019 04:04 (seven months ago) link

Seems like the people posting here give a shit about him

badg, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:32 (seven months ago) link

I kind of hate that they used that dewy, youthful glamourshot of him in that interview (note: I've never given a fuck about him besides that checkmark on gay men who are terrible misogynists.).

Yerac, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:42 (seven months ago) link

the shtick of saying wrong or irritating things in conversation to get attention, only to reveal you don't remember any particular conversation because you had no real emotional investment in one thing

doing so in print and then shrugging it off as "oh, I guess I wrote that, whatever" to further irritate an interviewer and the audience makes me think he's subconsciously going for next-level jackanapes status

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 12:53 (seven months ago) link

The entire comes off as him having had many decades of therapy but ultimately he just doesn't care because it doesn't affect him personally (except for not being able to fuck his millennial boyfriend in peace). Please buy his book.

Yerac, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:04 (seven months ago) link

otm, that disaffected stance of "I don't give a shit about any of this but it's the only thing anyone around me will talk about. I'll just be contrary so they pay attention to me."

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:05 (seven months ago) link

As I posted upthread he was reflective when talking about this when I saw him a decade ago, but since then he’s obviously gone full culture war and decided that he was the wronged party and that he’s never, ever getting over it.

gyac, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:11 (seven months ago) link

I think I am an absurdist. I think politics are ridiculous.

Maybe don’t write a book about it. Would that be the solution?

[I think the problem is that I don’t necessarily see this as interesting as fiction.

Yeah, I could tell.

lmao

i love isaac chotiner's interviews, he's remarkably good at letting people hang themselves

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:21 (seven months ago) link

I haven't been able to track down who they're talking about, but some people on twitter have mentioned that Bret's partner is a boring-ass centrist democrat.

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:30 (seven months ago) link

He seems to be a Biden fan, so yes.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:33 (seven months ago) link

Does Biden have a lot of millennial support? Wouldn’t have thought so.

gyac, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:35 (seven months ago) link

Does Biden have a lot of millennial support? Wouldn’t have thought so.

gyac, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:35 (seven months ago) link

he's def the choice of boring-ass centrist democrats

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:37 (seven months ago) link

he watches Maddow and his name is Todd

flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:38 (seven months ago) link

otm, that disaffected stance of "I don't give a shit about any of this but it's the only thing anyone around me will talk about. I'll just be contrary so they pay attention to me."

This. He tweaks the left because they are the only ones who know who he is and might give a shit. Trump voters likely don’t give a shit about him; can’t rebel if no one knows who you are.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 12 April 2019 13:39 (seven months ago) link

remember back when ivanka trump was explaining that she wanted a man like patrick bateman

sometimes ponder whether she thinks she got that

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:44 (seven months ago) link

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/discovery-todd-michael-schultz

Yerac, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:44 (seven months ago) link

ok, if that's Todd's actual twitter account I found...

...well, I don't really use twitter to be an intellectual, but jesus christ

mh, Friday, 12 April 2019 13:49 (seven months ago) link

Him tweeting “come over at do bring coke now” at like 5 in the morning that one time was pretty good tbh

circa1916, Sunday, 14 April 2019 16:05 (seven months ago) link

Gloriously scathing review from Anna Leszkiewicz at the graun.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/24/white-by-bret-easton-ellis-review-sound-fury-and-insignificance

brain (krakow), Thursday, 25 April 2019 08:03 (six months ago) link

Best review yet in nailing how Ellis acts like the detached observer when he's the irrational, outraged one. Funny how David Mamet has done something similar, going from being the guy who was all about the mechanics and math of playwriting to becoming the didactic, moralizing writer he always bemoaned in essays and interviews

... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:58 (six months ago) link

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Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:55 (six months ago) link


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