2019 Rolling "Hey Chatter Chatter" chatterthread

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It's typical that agents criticize competitors' deals. But I've now heard from executives, players, analytics people, development side and scouts who are saying the same thing: The Ozzie Albies extension might be the worst contract ever for a player. And this is not hyperbole.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) April 11, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

I went to Cot's Baseball Contracts and Ozzie doesn't have an agent listed, so I don't know who to be mad at.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

wouldn't he have made more money through the arbitration process, even? holy shit that's bad

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link

saw someone saying that if you're an agent and your client (or his family) insists on signing a deal like this, the only honorable thing to do is resign

also that, as we know from things like david wright's contract, the teams hedge on deals by taking out insurance -- and maybe that's something the union should do for its young members, on the other side, as they await arbitration and free agency

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

if the going rate is still ~9M/WAR, then he will "earn" the entire $35 million with one year similar to his 2018.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 April 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link

Jose Ramirez is this year's Paul Goldschmidt.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 April 2019 01:21 (five years ago) link

Khris Davis: has anyone ever had 9 HR by April 11?

clemenza, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:54 (five years ago) link

can't find that: April record is 14

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 April 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link

the wind is blowing out at wrigley

mookieproof, Friday, 12 April 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link

i was at the game today and the two contreras HRs out of the park and the rizzo HR to the top of the bleachers were all pretty impressive

na (NA), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link

10th for Davis, April 12th. Some comparisons:

Bonds, 2001 - 2
McGwire, 1998 - 4 (hit three the next day)
Sosa, 1998 - 2

Maris and Ruth started their seasons much later--they had 1 between them.

Khris Davis isn't good enough for me to want to root for him to break a major record. (Excuse tortured syntax.) And probably not good enough to sustain this anyway, I don't think. If he challenges .247 again, that I'd get caught up in.

clemenza, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link

otm. also he probably doesn't have many games left against the orioles

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:18 (five years ago) link

yeah Davis is an edge case, he opened the season a week before the rest of league for what should have been exhibition games in Tokyo.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 13 April 2019 05:29 (five years ago) link

the other Chris Davis pinch-hit in the 9th tonight and lined out to end it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

Rox at Giants is going to the 14th, and I swear a shot of the scoreboard just now included its message "GAYLORD PERRY IS LEAVING AT 11:30"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:30 (five years ago) link

16th, and we have Weird Baseball (midnight local time)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 07:00 (five years ago) link

Morning update: giants win, 3-2 in 18 innings

cue Ernie Banks saying “let’s play two!”

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 April 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link

It was a fireworks night as well, much to the surprise of folks in the neighborhood around 2am.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

real pitchers duel in the bronx today between . . . cc and ivan nova

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

Mets-Braves is about 1:10 in and it's the bottom of the 2nd.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Sunday, 14 April 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link

Mets' RS/RA (88/83) is nearly identical to the notorious Cubs (86/83) despite the disparity in W-L.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2019 12:54 (five years ago) link

the rockies are batting .203/.263/.313 as a team and have hit the same number of homers as cody bellinger

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 April 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link

That long-fabled Corey Kluber collapse may be upon us...then again he does usually struggle in April

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Sunday, 14 April 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

daniel palka is hot on chris davis’ heels: 0-for-28 with 13 K

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 April 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

ouch ouch ouch

Yu Darvish throws the most devastating fastball of his career. pic.twitter.com/sicvVLhnUL

— Cut4 (@Cut4) April 16, 2019

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

That was definitely faster than the ball that hit Bellinger. But Bellinger’s hit still felt nastier.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

Did Bellinger's also ricochet off the catcher and the ump, leaving a trail of buckled-over wincing men?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 21:59 (five years ago) link

It’s scarier, for sure. The actual impact to
Brinson doesn’t look as painful, though.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

Cody Bellinger gets drilled in the knee. That didn't look too good #Dodgers pic.twitter.com/65ehdDXzWn

— Dillard Barnhart (@BarnHasSpoken) April 16, 2019

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

KM: What's "whoosh" in ILX-speak?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

xxp is notable as Albert says for taking out 3 (!) ppl!

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 23:08 (five years ago) link

I was reacting to the “ouch.” Definitely notable for other reasons that I didn’t touch on, though.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

i kind of forgot that keuchel and kimbrel are both still free agents

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

it's shameful, tbh

person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 April 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

tim anderson is in trouble for calling the (white) pitcher who plunked him a ‘weak-ass fucking n_____’

i’m sure this will go well

mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link

Bat flip of the year goes to #WhiteSox Tim Anderson . pic.twitter.com/VLgWx2R3IG

— Sports Freakshow ⚽🏈🏉🏀⚾🏏 (@aussiebeastmode) April 18, 2019

he flipped his bat, too. unwritten rules aside, it was dumb for keller to throw a pitch at him

everyone got what they deserved i think:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/white-sox-tim-anderson-renteria-suspended-one-game-royals-p-keller-gets-5/

i have to say baseball has some questionable unwritten rules in general, though

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Friday, 19 April 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link

Look up Bour double-play in angels-mariners 8th inning. Sheer wtf, better to watch than me try and describe

alomar lines, Saturday, 20 April 2019 04:51 (five years ago) link

I'm in favor of bat flipping AND beaning

brimstead, Saturday, 20 April 2019 06:35 (five years ago) link

justin bour is having a tough week (see the second video clip from an earlier game with the cubs, as well):

https://deadspin.com/angels-justin-bour-gave-up-an-embarrassing-double-play-1834187688

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 April 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

through 20 games, tatis jr is batting .296/.370/.606, 154 wRC+

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 20 April 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link

he's going to be amazing... reminds me of manny machado or younger hanley ramirez just physically

J0rdan S., Saturday, 20 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

that bour clip is brutal

😬 pic.twitter.com/SzaTYe8mqB

— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) April 20, 2019

dee actually orchestrated all of that, which is pretty cool

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Saturday, 20 April 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

Why didn't they call infield fly? I'm confused

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

infield fly is only with first-and-second or bases loaded

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

no respect for ausmus not immediately benching bour

otoh he already had bourjos (.086/.108/.114) and cozart (.096/.143/.115) in the starting lineup so i guess there weren't too many options

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

I also thought the infield fly rule only had to do with first base being occupied.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 April 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

right, makes sense, because if the player runs as they are supposed to, you still only get one out

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Saturday, 20 April 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link

yelich nearly hit the perfect homer today

it went 421 feet off a 69 mph pitch

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 April 2019 03:09 (five years ago) link

Fernando Rodney tied Cy Young's games total tonight--I know; that's like saying Ed Sheeran matched Chuck Berry's bowling score--prompting me to look at his career box for maybe the first time ever. He's really had some high-save/mediocre-or-worse-everything-else years, hasn't he? He might be the only 300-save guy with a true outlier season on his resume (2012, half his career WAR).

clemenza, Sunday, 21 April 2019 05:38 (five years ago) link

I enjoy watching Yelich at bat, don't get me wrong, but Belli is on a whole other level

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2019/4/22/18510708/cody-bellinger-christian-yelich-los-angeles-dodgers-milwaukee-brewers-mvp

Folks, allow me to free your minds. Yelich, while exceptional, is NOT the best player this season. That honor belongs to Cody Bellinger. Here are some of his otherworldly numbers in bullet-point format, just as Provenzano dubiously presented those of Yelich:

  • .424 batting average
  • .500 on-base percentage
  • .882 slugging percentage
  • .552 wOBA
  • 255 wRC+
  • 2.3 fWAR
All of these stats are not only better than Yelich’s, they’re better than everyone else’s in the National League. While the disgraced Provenzano wasn’t wrong when he described Yelich’s 222 wRC+ as Ruthian, Bellinger’s 255 wRC+ goes far beyond The Babe. The single season record for wRC+ is 244 set by Barry Bonds in 2002. This makes Bellinger’s start to the season, uh, super-Ruthian? Mega-Bondsish? Trout-in-rookie-ball-like? Whatever, it’s crazy good.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 22 April 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link


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